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posted on May, 16 2007 @ 07:55 AM
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surely the only way to completely prove this thread is to go out into the desert and dig somthing up. once a stargate is foun you'll be out of work though undo + zorgon. at least on this topic anyway




posted on May, 16 2007 @ 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by Ginge
surely the only way to completely prove this thread is to go out into the desert and dig somthing up. once a stargate is foun you'll be out of work though undo + zorgon. at least on this topic anyway


LOL IF I can get access I will not only be out of this job, I will be off world



posted on May, 16 2007 @ 01:27 PM
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Originally posted by undo
well it could be a rocket reference, or it could be a wormhole. that's the problem. we have no way to differentiate in the texts, but we do in the artwork.


Well, it's all a guesswork. The Kukulcan image suggests to me that the little guy with the helmet is piloting the thing that makes "a plumed serpent". He seems very concentrated on what he is doing. I am not sure what the mist ahead of his control console is, but find it interesting that he is clutching missiles in his arm. Or he could be clutching giant paint brushes, I don't know.





posted on May, 16 2007 @ 01:30 PM
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Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by Ginge
surely the only way to completely prove this thread is to go out into the desert and dig somthing up. once a stargate is foun you'll be out of work though undo + zorgon. at least on this topic anyway


LOL IF I can get access I will not only be out of this job, I will be off world


I second that!



posted on May, 16 2007 @ 01:37 PM
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Interpretation yes indeed...

Look at the mouth of your snake behind the little guy... see the "breath"?

Compare that to THIS





posted on May, 16 2007 @ 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by zorgon
Interpretation yes indeed...

Look at the mouth of your snake behind the little guy... see the "breath"?

Compare that to THIS





I was thinking more of the "mist" ahead of the guy. It looks like a small version of the splash effect.

So the small wormwhole ahead of the craft is what poweres the craft, by its gravitational pull and being constantly open; he can make extreme turns impossible for us and the plumed serpent is the trail that he leaves behind, rather than the propellant like it is in our crude missiles.

Well done, zorgon!

[edit on 16-5-2007 by tungus]



posted on May, 16 2007 @ 04:59 PM
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Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by xmaskx
I didn't find anything conclusive in what I read. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong spot. Any particular "quotes" of note?


Why does this not surprise me?

First of all, the whole idea of Stargates presented in many threads at ATS, other than Beth's research here on Ancient Gates... is that most people think its crazy to believe they exist at all... Main stream science still says that teleportation is next to impossible...

Yet here are TWO official government documents from the top military research labs TALKING and WRITING PAPERS on Stargates... and this is what they release to the PUBLIC...

Okay you want quotes? Here are your quotes...


Two Kinds of vm-Teleportation Identified for the Air Force Study

• Traversable Wormhole engineered as a “STARGATE”
(via Einstein’s General Relativity Theory field equations, 1915)

• Faster-Than-Light (FTL) solutions of the Polarizable-Vacuum Representation of General Relativity (Davis,Puthoff, Maccone, 2003; , Puthoff, 1999, 2000) induce a flat-spacetime version of the Stargate via engineering the vacuum EM parameters

Part 1: What are Traversable Wormholes?

• Hyperspace tunnels thru spacetime, which can:

1. connect together remote regions within our universe
2. connect together different universes
3. connect together different space dimensions (for higher dimensional wormholes)
4. connect together different chronological periods within the same space region (backwards time travel!)

Part 2 - What are Traversable Wormholes?

• Traversable Wormholes possess:

1. normal or backwards time flow
2. normal or nonexistent gravitational stresses on space travelers
3. entry/exit openings (or throats) that can be made to be spherically shaped, cubic shaped,polyhedral shaped, generic shaped, etc.
4. flat entry/exit openings are possible – a true STARGATE or flat doorway through spacetime &dimensions!


From the above it is made VERY CLEAR that the Air Force not only understands that a gate can be used for travel from point A to point B

BUT
can go between universes (since when was THIS verified?)
can go between other dimensions
and can go back and forth through time...

Does no one out there see the significance of these reports?

One last quote...from the LANL abstract...

Naturally occurring anomalous teleportation phenomena that were previously studied by the United States and foreign governments were also documented in the study and are reviewed in the report.

NATURAL STARGATES THAT HAVE BEEN STUDIED


I feel your pain my friend. This is at least the 4th time I have seen you forced to post these very same points. The funny thing is that they jumped right out at me when I started reading these documents. Most people look at them from the view of science fiction and 'theory' when all they need to do is read what these people are SAYING.

How can they base these theories on things in the way they are referencing them without having some substantial foundation to stack them on? That's the point. They are referring to ongoing natural occurances and the links between universes, dimensions, points within our own universe, time, etc.

You see, I really must have missed that part of my physics class where they covered these naturally occuring events.

It's called disinfo. They don't want us to believe this so they teach us that it is impossible. Then we get people that decide they want to read like the first page of postings and then skip to the last couple and then post their point. If you take the time to really read everything you will begin to see the dots falling into line. This stuff is more real than we are being led to believe.

In order to see it people are going to have to open their minds a bit and let go of what they perceive as reality.



posted on May, 16 2007 @ 06:25 PM
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Checked out that page, and found this little gem, which rather fits in with the idea that ancestors of these people were aware of the Abzus and tried to recreate the concept for ritual purposes.
www.internet-at-work.com...

And as if to further corroborate the idea, this little image was found carved on something inside the Cenote.
www.internet-at-work.com...
It's supposedly a ritual battle scene but lookie what's in the background

(addendum: i just noticed we have stars at the tops of each post. not realizing what it was, i clicked on the above dariousg's last post, randomly, and it assigned him three stars out of five. had i known it was a rating system, just by clicking, i would've given his last post five stars not three!)

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posted on May, 16 2007 @ 06:32 PM
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Originally posted by tungus


I was thinking more of the "mist" ahead of the guy. It looks like a small version of the splash effect.

So the small wormwhole ahead of the craft is what poweres the craft, by its gravitational pull and being constantly open; he can make extreme turns impossible for us and the plumed serpent is the trail that he leaves behind, rather than the propellant like it is in our crude missiles.

Well done, zorgon!



The serpent isn't the craft, it's the wormhole. I suppose it doesn't have to just represent the wormhole, however, as the big one would be capable of allowing passage of large craft.

[edit on 16-5-2007 by undo]



posted on May, 17 2007 @ 12:04 AM
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Originally posted by Zorgon


LOL IF I can get access I will not only be out of this job, I will be off world


]Originally posted by tungus
I second that!


I know it's all in jest, but for the record:

1. I think the ancient texts indicate that only hybrids or ETs of a certain variety, can use the gates. so unless you 2 are hybrids, i'm guessing it's not going to happen even if you did find it operational.

2. Are you insane? ! ! !



[edit on 17-5-2007 by undo]



posted on May, 17 2007 @ 12:59 AM
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Originally posted by dariousg

I feel your pain my friend.


Thanks... its okay though, as I am on my own quest anyway, just sharing what I find along the way for other seekers...

The sheep shall be FLEECED and provide MUTTON for the table LOL

Oh wait!! Thats what Enki does isn't it



Originally posted by undo
I know it's all in jest, but for the record:

1. I think the ancient texts indicate that only hybrids or ETs of a certain variety, can use the gates. so unless you 2 are hybrids, i'm guessing it's not going to happen even if you did find it operational.


Well, don't know for sure about that yet... some of my research indicates other ways to be "made ready" but nothing concrete yet on that...

Maybe I can get Matt and his team to reconfigure the gate...


Besides I AM an Alien... I have a card to prove it




2. Are you insane? ! ! !


Well I don't believe "All Gates Lead to Enki" I am sure there is a network that leads to many places, and as our Air Force indicated, other universes and dimensions... So I will pick me up a few good machine guns and take a peek...

Beats sitting on this old rock waiting for Bush et al to drop the Hammer



Originally posted by undo
i just noticed we have stars at the tops of each post.


I think you can only click once per person. like the wats vote

[edit on 17-5-2007 by zorgon]



posted on May, 17 2007 @ 01:12 AM
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Originally posted by Ginge
surely the only way to completely prove this thread is to go out into the desert and dig somthing up.


Well the only places in the desert that I know I might find one are in area I would probably be shot for trying... Iraq... Nevada(Area 51) or Arizona (Los Alamos]

So in the meantime our job is secure



posted on May, 17 2007 @ 02:24 AM
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Thread Summary (just refer to this post when new poster arrives with questions
and/or comments)

Subterranean or Partially Subterranean Links

The Osirieon (Abzu) in Abydos, Egypt
www.phouka.com...
Tiwanaku's "The Subterranean Temple"
www.archaeology.org...
The Etemenanki (Tower of Babel)
www.livius.org...
The E.ABZU/ABZU of Enki (Enki's Journey to Nibru)
www-etcsl.orient.ox.ac.uk...
(Enki and the World Order)
www-etcsl.orient.ox.ac.uk...
The E.KUR/ABZU of Enlil (Enlil in the E.KUR)
etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk...
The Bottomless Pit: Revelation 9
www.blueletterbible.org...

==================================================

Star Gate Images

(Enki's Abzu or Gilgamesh's Gates of Paradise)
freepages.history.rootsweb.com...
Garden of Eden Gate
landoflegends.us...
Osirieon Gate (my theory) from the Book of the Gates
www.thestargates.com...
Comparison of the Abzu Gate
www.thestargates.com...
Ancient depiction of the big Abzu gate (my theory)
www.ancientegyptonline.co.uk...

Related Star Gate Images

The Gate Guardians
www.thestargates.com...
landoflegends.us...
The Hourglass shape of Mt. Meru (Sumeru)
phoenixandturtle.net...
www.landoflegends.us...
When the gate is destroyed, what's left (The wormhole, that's what)
landoflegends.us...
www.rekihaku.ac.jp...
Possible Location of the Big Abzu gate
earthobservatory.nasa.gov...
www.globalsecurity.org...
www.globalsecurity.org...
The Anasazi Kiva/Sipapu Connection
sipapu.gsu.edu...

==================================================

Extra-Terrestrial/Terrestrial Alien/Hybrid Studies based on Mummies, paintings and other artworks

Pre-Dynastic Naqada and Abydos (weird image)
www.thestargates.com...
Princess Meritaten, the daughter of King Akhenaten
www.thestargates.com...
www7.nationalgeographic.com...
King Tutankhamen
www7.nationalgeographic.com...
Akhenaten Family
www.rainbowcrystal.com...
Seti I
www.thestargates.com...
Sitamon - daughter of Ahmose
www.thestargates.com...
Djedptahiufankh - son of Ramesses
www.thestargates.com...
Tuthmosis III
www.thestargates.com...
A Selection of Very tall hats, perhaps hiding the evidence
www.let.leidenuniv.nl...
www.comeseeegypt.com...
www.livius.org...
www.livius.org...
A Morphological Study on the Skulls of ancient Naqada
entitled, "Genetical Change in Ancient Egypt"
/2bpvz5
Eridu, Sumer Statue
oi.uchicago.edu...
Six Fingers
www.thestargates.com...
Side Profile
www.thestargates.com...
More from Sumer and earlier
/35luje
oi.uchicago.edu...
oi.uchicago.edu...
www.thebritishmuseum.ac.uk...
Emperors of China,
Huang Di:
www.chinapage.com...
Shaohan-Jintian:
www.chinapage.com...
Taizu
www.chinapage.com...
The Hindu Gods/Goddesses:
www.indiaplaces.com...
shivason.tripod.com...
www.maps2anywhere.com...
Anasazi Kachinas
www.kerleo.net...
www.x-plorersclub.com...
www.crafts-gifts.com...
www.playle.com...

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The Science of Star Gates

Wormholes take on a new dimension
news.bbc.co.uk...
Teleportation Physics Study from Air Force Research Laboratories
www.americanantigravity.com... (presentation)
www.fas.org... (research)
The Star Gates (Pegasus Research Consortium)
landoflegends.us...
IBM Quantum Teleportation
researchweb.watson.ibm.com...
"Traversable Wormhole"
prola.aps.org...
Quantum Teleportation via two qubit Heisenberg XY chain
arxiv.org...
Google Scholar, a whole list of scientific research pdf files, etc, on the topic
/2lzm58

===================================================

Related Texts of Interest

Book of the Gates
sethy1.free.fr...
The Legend of the Destruction of Mankind
www.africawithin.com...
My Writings
partial e-book has only 3 pages available publically: www.thestargates.com...
However, I have two free e-books, rather short but documented, at:
The Anunnaki and the Abyss
www.artapprentice.net...
Nibiru and Wormwood
www.artapprentice.net...
Gilgamesh's Tomb believed found
news.bbc.co.uk...
The Giza Discovery (Search For the Hidden Tomb)
www.redmoonrising.com...
The Shaft, The Subway & The Causeway / 5
"Opening The Lost Tombs" - The Tomb Of Osiris
www.towers-online.co.uk...
The Shabaka Stone Text
nefertiti.iwebland.com...
Shabaka Stone of the British Museum
maat.sofiatopia.org...
Mysteries in the Mountains (of Arizona)
www.tucsonweekly.com...
PPHC Study Group (This guy thinks he can prove the egyptian hieroglyphs are depicting modern
and high technology and he goes into it really indepth)
www.pphcstudygroup.org.au...
Stargate screenplay written by 2 egyptologists from John Hopkins University
www.discoverychannel.co.uk...
The Levels of Mt. Meru (Sumeru)
nichirenscoffeehouse.net...


[edit on 17-5-2007 by undo]



posted on May, 17 2007 @ 11:15 AM
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Originally posted by undo
1. I think the ancient texts indicate that only hybrids or ETs of a certain variety, can use the gates. so unless you 2 are hybrids, i'm guessing it's not going to happen even if you did find it operational.


We are all hybrids! Some just more hybrid than others. Oh, and I too, have one of these cards that says alien on it.
And the renewal date is on 2012! So I'd better find a gate by then!




2. Are you insane? ! ! !



Maybe just a little.

But, come on, you mean to tell me that you wouldn't step through one if offered? With reasonable assurance of safety, of course, and no nasty places like hell or anything.

BTW thanks on the nice compilation of links. It will take some time to go through them but I bookmarked the page already.



[edit on 17-5-2007 by tungus]



posted on May, 17 2007 @ 12:28 PM
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argh, i need to add Tablet IX from the Epic of Gilgamesh to the list, but the edit feature has expired.
If you've copied the list, add this link to the last section
www.ancienttexts.org...


in addition, the anasazi kiva/sipapu link is in the wrong section. i should correct and repost it. i think i will.


(temporary place for additions to list
www.thestargates.com...
www.thestargates.com...
www.egyptarchive.co.uk...

[edit on 17-5-2007 by undo]



posted on May, 17 2007 @ 12:52 PM
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Thread Summary (just refer to this post when new poster arrives with questions
and/or comments)

The Science of Star Gates

Wormholes take on a new dimension
news.bbc.co.uk...
Teleportation Physics Study from Air Force Research Laboratories
www.americanantigravity.com... (presentation)
www.fas.org... (research)
IBM Quantum Teleportation
researchweb.watson.ibm.com...
"Traversable Wormhole"
prola.aps.org...
Quantum Teleportation via two qubit Heisenberg XY chain
arxiv.org...
Google Scholar, a whole list of scientific research pdf files, etc, on the topic
/2lzm58
The Star Gates (Pegasus Research Consortium)
landoflegends.us...

===================================================

Subterranean or Partially Subterranean Links

The Osirieon (Abzu) in Abydos, Egypt
www.phouka.com...
www.thestargates.com...
www.thestargates.com...
www.egyptarchive.co.uk...
Tiwanaku's "The Subterranean Temple"
www.archaeology.org...
The Etemenanki (Tower of Babel)
www.livius.org...
The E.ABZU/ABZU of Enki (Enki's Journey to Nibru)
www-etcsl.orient.ox.ac.uk...
(Enki and the World Order)
www-etcsl.orient.ox.ac.uk...
The E.KUR/ABZU of Enlil (Enlil in the E.KUR)
etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk...
The Anasazi Kiva/Sipapu Connection
sipapu.gsu.edu...
The Bottomless Pit: Revelation 9
www.blueletterbible.org...

==================================================

Star Gate Images

(Enki's Abzu or Gilgamesh's Gates of Paradise)
freepages.history.rootsweb.com...
Garden of Eden Gate
landoflegends.us...
Osirieon Gate (my theory) from the Book of the Gates
www.thestargates.com...
Comparison of the Abzu Gate
www.thestargates.com...
Ancient depiction of the big Abzu gate (my theory)
www.ancientegyptonline.co.uk...

Related Star Gate Images

The Gate Guardians
www.thestargates.com...
landoflegends.us...
The Hourglass shape of Mt. Meru (Sumeru)
phoenixandturtle.net...
www.landoflegends.us...
When the gate is destroyed, what's left (The wormhole, that's what)
landoflegends.us...
www.rekihaku.ac.jp...
Possible Location of the Big Abzu gate
earthobservatory.nasa.gov...
www.globalsecurity.org...
www.globalsecurity.org...

==================================================

Extra-Terrestrial/Terrestrial Alien/Hybrid Studies based on Mummies, paintings and other artworks

Pre-Dynastic Naqada and Abydos (weird image)
www.thestargates.com...
Princess Meritaten, the daughter of King Akhenaten
www.thestargates.com...
www7.nationalgeographic.com...
King Tutankhamen
www7.nationalgeographic.com...
Akhenaten Family
www.rainbowcrystal.com...
Seti I
www.thestargates.com...
Sitamon - daughter of Ahmose
www.thestargates.com...
Djedptahiufankh - son of Ramesses
www.thestargates.com...
Tuthmosis III
www.thestargates.com...
A Selection of Very tall hats, perhaps hiding the evidence
www.let.leidenuniv.nl...
www.comeseeegypt.com...
www.livius.org...
www.livius.org...
A Morphological Study on the Skulls of ancient Naqada
entitled, "Genetical Change in Ancient Egypt"
/2bpvz5
Eridu, Sumer Statue
oi.uchicago.edu...
Six Fingers
www.thestargates.com...
Side Profile
www.thestargates.com...
More from Sumer and earlier
/35luje
oi.uchicago.edu...
oi.uchicago.edu...
www.thebritishmuseum.ac.uk...
Emperors of China,
Huang Di:
www.chinapage.com...
Shaohan-Jintian:
www.chinapage.com...
Taizu
www.chinapage.com...
The Hindu Gods/Goddesses:
www.indiaplaces.com...
shivason.tripod.com...
www.maps2anywhere.com...
Anasazi Kachinas
www.kerleo.net...
www.x-plorersclub.com...
www.crafts-gifts.com...
www.playle.com...

====================================================

Related Texts of Interest

Book of the Gates
sethy1.free.fr...
The Legend of the Destruction of Mankind
www.africawithin.com...
My Writings
partial e-book has only 3 pages available publically: www.thestargates.com...
However, I have two free e-books, rather short but documented, at:
The Anunnaki and the Abyss
www.artapprentice.net...
Nibiru and Wormwood
www.artapprentice.net...

Epic of Gilgamesh Tablet IX
www.ancienttexts.org...
Gilgamesh's Tomb believed found
news.bbc.co.uk...
The Giza Discovery (Search For the Hidden Tomb)
www.redmoonrising.com...
The Shaft, The Subway & The Causeway / 5
"Opening The Lost Tombs" - The Tomb Of Osiris
www.towers-online.co.uk...
The Shabaka Stone Text
nefertiti.iwebland.com...
Shabaka Stone of the British Museum
maat.sofiatopia.org...
Mysteries in the Mountains (of Arizona)
www.tucsonweekly.com...
PPHC Study Group (This guy thinks he can prove the egyptian hieroglyphs are depicting modern
and high technology and he goes into it really indepth)
www.pphcstudygroup.org.au...
Stargate screenplay written by 2 egyptologists from John Hopkins University
www.discoverychannel.co.uk...
The Levels of Mt. Meru (Sumeru)
nichirenscoffeehouse.net...
ECTL Catalogue (Sumerian/Akkadian/Babylonian)
www-etcsl.orient.ox.ac.uk...
Pennsylvannia Sumerian Dictionary
psd.museum.upenn.edu...
Descent of Ishtar
www.ancienttexts.org...
Descent of Inanna
www.piney.com...

======================================

Related Images of Interest

Clickable map of Mesopotamia
oi.uchicago.edu...


[edit on 17-5-2007 by undo]



posted on May, 17 2007 @ 02:29 PM
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The Scorpion-Beings
The mountain is called Mashu.
Then he reached Mount Mashu,
which daily guards the rising and setting of the Sun,
above which only the dome of the heavens reaches,
and whose flank reaches as far as the Netherworld below,
there were Scorpion-beings watching over its gate.
Trembling terror they inspire, the sight of them is death,
their frightening aura sweeps over the mountains.
At the rising and setting they watch over the Sun.
When Gilgamesh saw them, trembling terror blanketed his face,
but he pulled himself together and drew near to them.
The scorpion-being called out to his female:
"He who comes to us, his body is the flesh of gods!"
The scorpion-being, his female, answered him:
"(Only) two-thirds of him is a god, one-third is human."
The male scorpion-being called out,
saying to the offspring of the gods:
"Why have you traveled so distant a journey?
Why have you come here to me,
over rivers whose crossing is treacherous!
I want to learn your ...
I want to learn ..."

[16 lines are missing here. When the text resumes Gilgamesh is speaking.]

www.ancienttexts.org...



I dunno 'bout you, but I sure would like to know what was said in those 16 missing lines! And in the next part, 67 more lines are missing! And in the part after that, ANOTHER 67 lines are missing (odd huh?).

And at the end of Tablet IX, the garden is described in detail and guess what?! 25 lines describing it, are missing.
(25 lines are missing here, describing the garden in detail.] Well... doh!


[edit on 17-5-2007 by undo]



posted on May, 17 2007 @ 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by undo

Originally posted by tungus


I was thinking more of the "mist" ahead of the guy. It looks like a small version of the splash effect.

So the small wormwhole ahead of the craft is what poweres the craft, by its gravitational pull and being constantly open; he can make extreme turns impossible for us and the plumed serpent is the trail that he leaves behind, rather than the propellant like it is in our crude missiles.

Well done, zorgon!



The serpent isn't the craft, it's the wormhole. I suppose it doesn't have to just represent the wormhole, however, as the big one would be capable of allowing passage of large craft.

[edit on 16-5-2007 by undo]


Which correlates with the images presented in movies such as Contact and other representations of travelling through wormholes. They aren't always shown in a straight line. They are more often then not depicted in serpentine spiraling paths.

Again, another piece falls into place. Nice!



posted on May, 18 2007 @ 12:10 AM
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Interesting find on an "undecorated" red granite monolith in the Osirieon. I turned up the light and wallah, there's something on the side of this monolith. It appears to be very old, faded and perhaps even deliberately obscured:




If you'll recall, my theory on the Osirieon is that it is a replica of Enki's Abzu gate chamber. This based on the fact that Abydos was the location of the Osirieon, and Abydos is pronounced Abzu in Egyptian (abydos being greek, and abdju being the egyptian spelling. the dj in abdju is pronounced "z" so abdju is pronounced "abzu" (from research by egyptologist david rohl).



posted on May, 18 2007 @ 06:05 AM
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And if you recall my theory on Hathor as the Big Abzu gate, you might be interested to know that I found a visual clue in the guise of two symbols:

The Ladder of Heaven (associated with Nut, the Sky Goddess) and called the Maqet

And the Sistrum, the symbol associated with Hathor

This also is approximated in an older version, which is called "Bat"
and later, "Hathor". The description of it is interesting, as is the symbol itself:
www.ancientegyptonline.co.uk...

Bat and Nut represented the starry sky.
Bat's symbol is also the symbol of Hathor and both are further represented as cow goddesses. The two arms of the symbols were later shown as two horns of a cow/bull, and are symbollized in the Hathor crown of a sun disk surrounded by 2 horns.
www.wilsonsalmanac.com...
upload.wikimedia.org...

Now let's see how this fits into the sumerian and egyptian texts as regards the star gate concept.

As you might recall, my theory was that the "Legend of the Destruction of Mankind" www.africawithin.com... (also known as the Legend of Re and Hathor"), was describing the Eye of Ra as Hathor, to be the equivalent of the Big Abzu gate. It was called "the most powerful eye on the planet." If it was a gate, it would seem to be a round gate based on the egyptian images of it, breaking with the traditional images of a rectangular gate. So it dawned on me that I should do a bit of research in Sumerian/Akkadian/Babylonian texts and artforms, to see if there was an equivalent.

Originally, after realizing Enki-Ea and Ra were one in the same in the Legend of the Destruction of Mankind, I noticed it was attributing the features of the E.ABZU to RA or vice-a-versa (the god and his building were interchangeable), and Hathor as the Eye of Ra to a device of some kind, I had thought the Eye of Ra was a craft/ a spaceship. However, upon further investigation it became clear that the Eye of Ra was a device from which weapons/spaceships might arrive, but which was not itself a weapon/spaceship in the strictest sense of the word. It was in fact, a gate, a star gate. A really BIG star gate, in the water. The bottomless pit, the Abyss, the Abzu.

However, some differentiation had to be made, since Enki had more than one Abzu associated with him. For example, he had the Abzu under his temple. And he had access to the Abzu at the E.Kur in Nibru and the Abzu from which he had arrived on the planet off the coast, in the Persian Gulf. If you read the text of his arrival and Samuel Noah Kramer's discussion of it, it seems his E.ABZU temple was in fact raising up out of a great body of water. This "Temple" was in fact a spacecraft and is appropriately named "House Faraway Built." So this was describing the arrival of Enki's spaceship via the Big Abzu gate in the Persian Gulf (which I believe is now located under "Abadan" www.globalsecurity.org...

Anyway, to further tie in the Hathor connection to the star gate theories I've accumulated thus far, it dawned on me that I'd need some textual or image examples of the Hathor gate (the BIG Abzu gate) also known as the Eye of Ra, but from Sumer, Akkadia or Babylon instead of Egypt. And I do believe I found something in that ballpark in the form of the "Bull of Heaven", mentioned in "Gilgamesh and the Bull of Heaven" etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk... At first, I thought it was simply talking about the constellation Taurus, but the more I read about it, the more it sounded like a big vaccum cleaner, an out of control wormhole. Then it sounded like a huge water faucet, as it proceeds to submerge entire cities. Here's where it dawned on me that this was the Flood of Hathor, who in this instance is represented as Inanna. Suffice it to say, a huge puzzle piece fit into place at that moment. It all started to make sense:

Hathor=The Eye of Ra=The Ladder of Heaven=The Bull of Heaven=The Big Abzu Gate=The Bottomless Pit

Zorgon and I had been contemplating the possibility (after Zorgon mentioned it), that the Gates of the Deep might in fact have played a role in the flood. And that perhaps part of the waters associated with the flood, arrived here threw the gate system, via Mars. And all that martian water had been basically pumped here through the big Abzu gate, basically destroying the eco-systems of two planets in one blow. One from a massive drought and the other from a massive flood. Makes one wonder what was going on on Mars before all this started, if indeed that is the connection. It would seem to fit the profile of "red water" mentioned in the Legend of the Destruction of Mankind, perhaps a reference to water from the red planet. Maybe they KNEW it was martian water

[edit on 18-5-2007 by undo]



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