Originally posted by tigpoppa
OMG

this is just pure crap!

utter garbage and unsubstantiated.

i would not waste time in school studying the world if this was true.
Im a biologist/ chemist/ finishing degree in applied physics and this is a waste of time.

geez i wish this stuff was real and if it was they would have everyone working on it not holding it back. nothing is held back if it makes money and this stuff would generate gold mines. dontcha think that hit people from all the world corps would rein down on these ideas if real???

cmon try a little harder to convince me of magic and i will believe it.

Well lets think about this for a while.

If you had a motor with no moving parts it could not break - Right

If you had a way to fracture water & have the left over product generate enough heat that it would fracture again on its own. Then use the rest of whats left to fire a small hydrogen exposition. Might that be productive.

If Whycoff tower could be isolated into the mountians in Colorado.
Then be turned on.
If the power of generated it when ran into the existing power grid.
If it created enough power to cause the water generators in the nearby dam to run backwards. Functioning as un-efficient water pumps.
Might that have a profitable use some day.

Myself, Stan Meyer, Tesla would beg to differ that they might have a profitable use. Some thing out there stifles the technology.

If it money, government, or some mystical bla bla bla that is what this site endevers to explain.

It is why we need people like you to speak out.
Offer different opinions not just a rebuke.
Voice it.

Heck if i have not persuaded you.
Look into micro material's analysis yourself.
The real world is much stranger than we could procieve.
Keep an open mind.

If nothing else works overlay a mag map with a gravitational map.
That will ring you bell once or twice.

If time space can be bent.

Would you call it a gate?
A portal?
A parting of the Sea's? (Waters, Ethers)
Hmmm

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Watcher---

I have seen a Stargate opening, at least thats how I would best describe. It was a life changing experience, and to be honest I wish it would have never happened. The thing that I find so hard to believe is that I have found noone else who has had this experience, am I alone? I have so many unanswered questions it drives me crazy. Where did the enegy I felt come from? What cause the light rods to appear (one red one white)? What was the crystaline ring structure made of? Who was in charge of organizing the jets that were monitoring and contributing to this phenomena? What was the purpose of the Stargate? How did I hear the British woman who said opening gate 5 without audible hearing her? What caused the sound of wind rushing through a hollow log when I focused on the gate? Why Hattiesburg, Mississippi? What allowed me to hear sounds from hundreds of yards away for a brief while afterwards? On and On they go.

It's funny that this stuff popped up after the show "Stargate" and really kicked into full gear once SG1 started.

Originally posted by symmetrical-spacemonkey
I have seen a Stargate opening, at least thats how I would best describe. It was a life changing experience, and to be honest I wish it would have never happened. The thing that I find so hard to believe is that I have found noone else who has had this experience, am I alone? I have so many unanswered questions it drives me crazy. Where did the enegy I felt come from? What cause the light rods to appear (one red one white)? What was the crystaline ring structure made of? Who was in charge of organizing the jets that were monitoring and contributing to this phenomena? What was the purpose of the Stargate? How did I hear the British woman who said opening gate 5 without audible hearing her? What caused the sound of wind rushing through a hollow log when I focused on the gate? Why Hattiesburg, Mississippi? What allowed me to hear sounds from hundreds of yards away for a brief while afterwards? On and On they go.

Sounds like the link between the two locations had a difference in barometric pressure. That might expain the rushing air sound.

I have had two abduction experiences that included something like you are describing.

The first started with football sized black orb(non reflective) slowly pass threw our bed room. It was totally black with a lighting like blueish white static passing over its surface. My wife and I looked at each other & exclaimed "Dam did you see that!

I got out of bed & went towards our large living room.

There was a loud Crack or static snap in front of me as I entered the liveing room.
In front of me apperared a @2 1/2" thick 4 to 5 foot long staff hovering in the air about 12' off the floor.
It surface was a dull clear unlit tube filled with a fog from within.

It slowly came to life.
I became gentley lit from within.
A foggy white blue on the bottom, the middle was a smokey pastel yellow & the top 1/3 was a gental foggy pastel pink.
The rod had 4 metallic strings that were attached near the top of the staff.
They each held a 2" or so birds egg sized metallic looking orb.
I have seen a hand held children's toy magnets that look just like them.
As the staff slowly reached its peek light level the orbs sprung away from the staff & were held equidistant from the center of the staff about 6" to its sides. It hovered in place for about 3 seconds then slowly rotated on axis.
The small orbs seamed to line up with North, South, East & West.
I noticed there was a handle grip in the middle of the staff.
I reached up with my left hand & insticktively pressed a button on the handle grip. It then became a feather weighted object & I was able to remove it from its hovering position. I took it out the front door to an mowed field accross the street.

The rest of the incident is completely off topic so I will drop it there.
In a word it was some type of location devise.
I have no idea of how but I new what to do with it.
It was a tool.

I hope this helps.
I will butt out unless you have further questions.

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Without wax - Watcher

Undo your stargate research is very interesting! Thank you very much for sharing your work! Over the past ten years I myself have found a lot of indisputable references to stargates in the Bible. The first is in the very first chapter.

Modern physics and the Bible both have identical descriptions of the early universe. Modern physics says the universe was initially a singularity or black hole before it expanded in the big bang. Genesis 1:2 says –

“And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.”

The Bible describes the world (physical universe) as initially void, dark and “deep” (or “Tehom” in the original Hebrew). Strong’s Concordance says Tehom can mean “deep”, “abyss” or “sea”.

A black hole is of course an abyss and it is the ultimate deep because you can never fill it up. No matter how much stuff you throw into a black hole it only gets deeper. I don’t know how a sea relates to a black hole. The “face of the waters” is obviously the event horizon of this initial black hole. But I don't know why the event horizon would be like water.

Undo you say that the Sumerian “Abzu” was a wormhole. Abzu like the Biblical Tehom also means a watery deep. You also say on page 122 of this thread that wormholes have a reflective, watery surface. Why would a wormhole look watery?

It is interesting that a vast range of Sci Fi shows depict black holes/wormholes as water-like. Is there a scientific basis for this? –

Stargate


Event Horizon


Doorways


Farscape


Sliders


Dr Who

the only explanation for it that i could find was from a high school science teacher and he didn't link his sources. it had something to do with spinning water at the speed of light, would produce a wormhole. something about it becoming infinitely heavy or something. zorgon may know more about it, as he has been researching the scientific aspect moreso than i have. my approach has been mostly from the ancient historical perspective.

Thank you for clarifying this to some extent for me Undo.

Pardon if my spelling or grammar is not the greatest.
Was more math and logic.

Since I was a child I have been overly fascinated with the Mayans, Egyptians (especially) as well as many various Indian/Aztec cultures. Various repeated dreams as child and my parents telling me I had one hell of an imagination. One pertaining to monk like people in robes and, off topic, a Carnival of Serpents. I never really understood why. And to this day am really drawn to the pyramids as they fascinate me more that by just seeing them. Atlantis is another thing I can not get passed. I am curious however. Is there any documentation relating Atlanteans, Mayans and Egyptians. And that some the the survivors of Atlantis moved on to create newer Egyptian, Mayan and various other Aztec civilizations? Seeing the Atlanteans were an advanced race and now documentation, yours, showing such tech like the Stargate and with the Mayans and their advanced knowledge of the stars and more. And not sure how true this is, that there are some sort of texts hidden somewhere in Egypt, Pyramids or Sphinx with some history, information and the exact location of Atlantis.

For a long time I held back bringing something like this up as many will in fact relate to the the TV show (now) and say I am crazy. Often feel I am. As far fetched as the shows is sometimes, some of the 'theories' are interesting. However, upon the first release of the movie Stargate, something about the whole name 'Stargate' seemed real and has been stuck with me. But was never for certain on the idea. Thats when I started paying closer attention to certain shows. Like as mentioned in another post in this thread about this. We believe most of our 'Sci-Fi' shows to be total fabrications. Someones imagination. But often wondered if these imaginations were sparked from real events, just simply altered. Same as many religious texts. And since birth to mostly believe anything we see on TV is not real. But what if there was some truth to what we are watching in some cases? Just as much we are told to believe anything the news says is true, but in reality is not always. Confuse the masses and as mentioned, plausible deniability. Probably could go as far back as the Twilight Zone. But then again, could just be television.

Any ways... besides wanting to see the tombs (as their designs & surfaces are too flawless for their time and should show imperfections but do not) and what is inside the pyramids, this as well could have been (who knows) one of the things that drew me to wanting to visit. But has always been too dangerous to visit, especially lately. And could never possibly afford a trip like that.

As much as I would love proof and would like to believe in what is 'in my head', I still remain skeptical. But keep a very open mind. We are bombarded with various stories of truth and lies and with the internet even more so. It is becoming hard to decipher the two. And with stories colliding with stories and stories changing with the collisions it could very well lead to the point that we really have no clue at all what so ever. And all we can do is theorize. Mind candy?

I cant break away from the game we played in grade school. Telephone. Information changing through ones perspective of what they viewed, heard or read and the representation of texts and documentation changed because of this. But I believe in my instincts and my gut and has yet to let me down. I believe in the Stargate. Just not sure to what extent and that it is what it is.

In closing. It was nice to see this and will look into it more. I wonder if their are any lost languages you know of? One that is a combination, somewhat, of Mayan, Egyptian and Asian. In terms as in how it sounds, well to me. Probably not. Just asking.

Also, lol... cannot find the post but someone mentioning about the reptilians and V. Goes further back.

Land of the Lost.

I can not say I believe the whole reptilian thing. But in conjunction to me mentioning the Carnival of Serpent dreams. A story was told to me about how this planet used to be ruled by 'Dragon Like' creatures and were at war with another race and lost. Now seeing similarities to this story all over the net. And this was told to me before the net is what it is today.

well it all started while i was reading revelation 9 and trying to figure out what the bottomless pit was. it mentions in the chapter, that this event is occuring in the area of the euphrates river at some future time but the info on the bottomless pit was older than the book of revelation. it was from the word ABYSS. so i traced it all the way back to ancient sumer. and that's what this thread is really about. the fact it fits in so snugly with the stargate movie, stargate: sg1 and stargate: atlantis shows, is a perk.

[edit on 21-4-2009 by undo]

hi, i like your idea - i will have to read your books .

i was reading a book called 'hunt for the skinwalker' about ufo phenomena on an american ranch, and there was something they described that sounded like a worm hole. they described it as an orange sort of haze (from the side) but from the front, apparantly they could see sky through it that was different to the sky on earth, and they said that ufos came and went from this hole.

does a wormhole have the same function as a stargate?

wonder if there was any sort of permanent equipment/technology associated with the manifestation of that orange hole or whatever it was.

i liked sitchin's idea that the underworld, was basically, areas inside earth; and the heavens might have referred to the asteroid belt created by a planetary collision or something.

but yeah; all the myths all over the world are obsessed with the axis mundi, world tree connecting the heavens to underworld and sacred mountains etc. and pyramids are acknowledged by archaeologists to represent sacred mountains. .. sounds like a theory to me. I wonder if you get beamed, like on startrek.

Originally posted by rapunzel222
does a wormhole have the same function as a stargate?

The stargate is the doorway at the end of a wormhole. Its basically a door that you can open and close when you want to, as opposed to a random wormhole. But what connects the various gates is indeed a wormhole.