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posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 07:36 AM
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Yes. A similar story is told in the TV-Series.

But there´s another reason to: Humans who are not ready for it, tend to use technology for destructive and dishonest purposes.




posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 10:51 AM
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according to the info i've pieced together from several ancient texts and scholars, when the tower of babel incident occured, the worlds nations were divided among 70 angels, who, for some reason, decided they could lead
the people of the earth better and became their gods.

my somewhat modified theory of this is, the tower of babel event was the result of enki trying to resume his world order following the flood. since the previous slaves and hybrids had been wiped out by the flood, he needed a fresh stock and fast, so he used the gate system to bring other races here from other places in the universe. this is enki's namshub event, where the language of the people is confused. nimrod (enmerkar, gilgamesh, narmer, asar (osiris)) offered to rebuild enki's E.ABZU and return the former glory of his pre-flood empire, which translated means, that he was modified to be a host body for enki.

so with these new races, came their Watchers (their guardian angels), who had been assigned to watch over them and who agreed to be part of the council of the gods. of these, michael the archangel, was selected by jehovah, to watch over the israelites, but michael did not presume to be their god -- that honor was still in jehovah's arena.

in other words, the council of gods you read about in all the ancient cultures... these are the same beings, renamed and repackaged and put in place following the tower of babel event.





[edit on 1-10-2008 by undo]



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 11:09 AM
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i need to add to the above data, that nimrod was a world emperor at that point. his power was taken away and divided amongst the 70 angels. it must've been quite the power play. enki uses nimrod's body to reestablish his world order. he becomes the emperor of the known world. he brings other races here and their watchers come with them. jehovah sees the mess that's created and shuts down the gate (destroys the tower of babel in the process). the 70 watchers plot nimrod's death. after his demise, his power is then divided amongst them. enki just finds a new host body and the game is on again.

before nimrod (osiris) is killed, he establishes the egyptian dynastic order. this gives enki an endless supply of powerful rulers to act as host bodies, which is why when a pharaoh is buried, the texts call him osiris. he's the original pharaoh, as created by enki's infestation of nimrod's body.

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posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 11:18 AM
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I have often associated the ancient greek gods and the native american spirits to the angels. I don't know if this was my own view or something I had previously read though. I think this is what you are stating here as well, correct me if I am wrong.

Alot of my theories that I thought were my own, people tell me that they have heard similar things as well, so I don't know if any of my theories are technically my own or just something in my subconcious from something I read or heard about. Some tell me it might be genetic memory, which I had never heard of until somene told me about it. Undo, have you heard of this? If so is this related in any way to your descussions here?



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 11:27 AM
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HE HE , Beam me up Scotty......whooooppppss sorry wrong show. You mean SG-1 type stuff huh!


If I'm incorrect , mods please be kind don't beat me.


I wouldn't mind seeing your research facts...but if you are allowed to quote sources from news and bibles and links to sites of resource info why can't you provide link to your source material...you said it was free and your not trying to promote a site, just trying to share resource material right.


SO why can't you give a direct link to your e-book?
[edit on 10/1/08 by Beelzabub]

[edit on 10/1/08 by Beelzabub]



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 11:29 AM
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well the argument could be made that it is relevant, and i can't argue that possibility because i don't know enough about it. i can only relate what the texts say.

none of this particular tower of babel/70 angels material, is strictly my original material, with the exception that the tower of babel event was a gate event, as well, in which the other races were brought here. (a theory)

i don't think the original lineage of adam and eve who were brought here, were white folk. i think they were black people. .. enki's first slaves he brought here from eden. he enticed them here. i'm not sure how he convinced the other races to come here, unless they were abducted against their wills or were also lied to. they may have been prisoners even, on other worlds. i really don't know. i do know that some races are just the result of interbreeding (semites and hindus, for example), and that could've happened on earth after the gate event. i may also be missing pieces of important data, so it's not set in stone yet.



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 11:31 AM
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one of the readers investigated, found the links and posted them on page 10 of the thread, i do believe. which means you didn't read much of the thread cause we are now on page 140 something. lol



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 11:36 AM
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I'm trying to grasp where your coming from first before others opinions corrupt my collection of the thread authors source statement.

It's not fair to make a affirming or debunking statement based on opinions biased by replies.

You need to be heard out first before I get involved with all the associated debate from alternate sources.



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 11:49 AM
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only read my posts in the thread, and you'll be able to grasp it very well. much better than my 3 chapter ebooks could do.
but here they are (note: some of the data has changed since these were written, some has been fleshed out better and some has been discarded):

the anunnaki and the abyss
www.thestargates.com...

nibiru and wormwood
www.thestargates.com...

the stargates of sumer (this one is an incomplete book)
www.thestargates.com...



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 11:55 AM
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Much thanks Mate I just wanted to hear you without all the noise, it's a respect thing you know.


Cheers....I'll look at the books and your stuff here I'll just try hard to close out the noise till I get a grasp on it all.


Cheers



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 04:48 PM
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Originally posted by undo
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i don't think arrogance is a hallmark of a neocon, specifically. it's a human foible. you can see dirt poor, powerless people, who are arrogant. you can see arrogant democrats. arrogant socialists. arrogant communists. arrogant -ists of all kinds.

as far as love and light and forgiveness. ..the only reason that doesn't work out so well here, on the planet, is because of lack of faith in the first place. if everyone believed it was possible and extended it to each other, it would become a reality. wasn't that also part of what jesus taught ?

so do you think enki's namshub was a modfication of the human brain?
and
do you think he created humans?


yes ,thats true to a considerable degree . Arrogance usually compensates for fear and insecurity . A good point .

Again on the second point I agree . The point is that the bad guys /darkside always will present themselves as the good guys to pitch their power grab . They have to because even most humans prefer to live in peace ! War only benefits the few .

Not familiar with the namshub thing so I will look up your research on the same. Most of my info on Enki comes from my altairian friend . When he gets back from his deployement I will see what I can get out of him .

It would probably be more accurate to say Enki RE created Humans in his own image . Perhaps when he found out he was a genetic experiemnt who would never be accepted as an equal by his ancient masters he decided to create a family of his own ?

I do have a few personal memories of him . He could be a very charming and yes beautifull person . This is the sad part about all this .
I know his mother well believe it or not . She lives now not to far from here . I have not seen her for a while. It was always difficult to get her to talk . You have to understand the burden of guilt and saddness she bears for creating Enki . The pain and suffering that resulted .her thwarted attempts to try and reform him. My heart really does break for her and yet its difficult not to be annoyed with her for making so many dangerously stupid mistakes .

Trouble is with the ancients ,they tampered way to much with multiple time lines and created as a result ,multiple personalities . It also , Again ,was a way to cheat death . The ancients FEAR death more than anything .Its totally irrational because in fact death is the beggining not the end .

You see UNDO , enki is Enlil is jehovah is god knows how many times he split himself in to varying parallel time lines . He is at war with his alter ego's as well as the alliance ! This is where the jeckyl and hide story comes from .

Not to long ago he addmited in a moment of weakness the following
'If I should fail ,the memory of the ram will be no more'
Thats the truth . he has been told when he will be terminated unless he can undo the damage he caused . Trust however has always been the big issue when dealing with enki.

The part of him that is good is genuinely trying to fix this mess ,but when the time lines run in and out of phase he is suddenly ripped back in to his dark side . He is at the mercy of his own time manipulations gone hay wire plus soul catcher !

TIME ! dont muck with it .

The jesus thing interests me because I have as yet been unable to get my friend to tell me to much .

Is he the renagade ancient ? I dont know.

I have been told that Ninmahs father was a high ranking admiral in the ancient battle fleet who did not want war with altair . many thought it was folly , but Enki picked a fight and then it all went to crap. There was probably treachery on both sides to foment the war .It only takes a few corruptable men .

Earths history is only a small part of this. Its the squalid aftermath when Enki , defeated pissbolted to this planet with the ancient flagship and the remnants of his army . He also had female hostages who he used as breeding stock .



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 07:18 PM
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Originally posted by undo
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well the argument could be made that it is relevant, and i can't argue that possibility because i don't know enough about it. i can only relate what the texts say.

none of this particular tower of babel/70 angels material, is strictly my original material, with the exception that the tower of babel event was a gate event, as well, in which the other races were brought here. (a theory)

i don't think the original lineage of adam and eve who were brought here, were white folk. i think they were black people. .. enki's first slaves he brought here from eden. he enticed them here. i'm not sure how he convinced the other races to come here, unless they were abducted against their wills or were also lied to. they may have been prisoners even, on other worlds. i really don't know. i do know that some races are just the result of interbreeding (semites and hindus, for example), and that could've happened on earth after the gate event. i may also be missing pieces of important data, so it's not set in stone yet.



The earth ,I have been told , was used by the ancients for genetic and other kinds of experimentation before the war with altair and its alliance members .So what I lack is a comprehensive chronology of events over what was a fairly long period of time.

I do know there are some things that my friend finds difficult to talk about because the memories are to painfull . I remember seeing women held in suspension in water tanks ,pregnant women .
I remember Enki always wore that strange looking helmet you see in the cylinder seals . It is dull silver in color . Made from a graphite material apparently no doubt because of its conductivity .

I have experienced an attempted walk in on a few occasions. First your body goes numb and you start to feel paralyisis . On both occasions I fought it off . You do feel the personality of the body snatcher overwriting your conscious control of your mind .Yes its scary , but you must not give in to the fear because then they've really got you . turn that fear to rage and pushing them back out is easy . rage against the machine people ,thats what it means .

Remember this . RITUAL involves repetitive incantation plus narcotics /hallucinogens . This hypnotises the brain and makes walking in easier to achieve .That or the walk in is attempted at night when you are asleep. The ancients are also energy scavengers . They feed on the energy stored in DNA . Not very good for your DNA or health .

One of the things you will notice if you have been in the presence of a feeding ancient is physical exhaustion ,feeling drained . The human body is an energy battery . They need proximity ,ideally touch but either way ,dont stay around if you start to feel your energy level dropping quickly . Thats why I dont go near Enki's mother anymore .



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 09:50 PM
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I agree with you....I have been researching UFOs and EBEs through out history and religion. I have found many interesting similarities between myths of old, religions, hieroglyphs and the modern encounters.

Here is a snipet from the bible, which could be refering to and ancient time of occupation by "fallen angels" or EBEs.

Genesis 6:1-7
1 When men began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. 3 Then the LORD said, "My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal ; his days will be a hundred and twenty years." 4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown. 5 The LORD saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time. 6 The LORD was grieved that he had made man on the earth, and his heart was filled with pain. 7 So the LORD said, "I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from the face of the earth—men and animals, and creatures that move along the ground, and birds of the air—for I am grieved that I have made them." NIV



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 09:52 PM
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One of the things you will notice if you have been in the presence of a feeding ancient is physical exhaustion ,feeling drained . The human body is an energy battery . They need proximity ,ideally touch but either way ,dont stay around if you start to feel your energy level dropping quickly . Thats why I dont go near Enki's mother anymore .


What you describe here sounds alot like the side effects of sleep apnea to which I am prone. The difference being it is the lack of sleep in sleep apnea that causes is sleep deprovation caused by the inability to breathe and the body waking gasping for air, all which happens in such a very small amount of time that the victem of sleep apnea does not even realize it is happening.

My question is if you are affected by sleep apnea how would you know if it were the sleep apnea or if you are in the presence of an ancient?



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 10:25 PM
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about a year ago, i started having dream series. what i mean by that is, i would dream a similar topic, every night.

the first series of dreams was about solving various puzzles that were presented to me by some group. i instinctively knew they were thinking they could wrest information about unlocking the gate from my subconscious mind but it's not there. the bulk of my knowledge about the possible gate technology is from ancient texts. that's it. it's not a past memory. it's not an implanted memory. it's simply reading texts and doing comparative analysis.

anyway, every night i would have these same types of puzzle solving dreams, although the puzzles would change and became very intricate after a few nights. i eventually prayed that God would intervene on my behalf and stop the ...whatever they were..remote viewers perhaps?

the second series of dreams was about working on the moon. i could see waves and waves of people, all dressed in the same exact blue jumpsuits, all doing the same type of work, all filing along in the same queues, robotic like. i'm not sure what type of work it was, but it seemed to be related to mining. it was depressing. night after night, i would go to work on the moon with all the other...zombies. so i prayed that God would intervene on my behalf and stop that series of dreams as well.

the third series of dreams were about fighting in ..well like in the medival times, with swords and shields. every night, same dream, different battle, same circumstances. again, i prayed to be released from that as well.

the fourth series was about piloting a spacecraft. that's all i remember. bleh. that would be interesting to remember in greater detail, but alas, it's pretty much blurred out.

what amazed me was the repetition of them. i've never had series of dreams before, in order, and of the same variety, every night. it was quite bizaare, and it hasn't stopped yet!

these days i've been dreaming of trying to stop something from happening. i'm not sure what it is. the number 9 keeps repeating. i see a production line going by, and all the items on it are marked with the number 9. i fight someone and sometimes a group of someones, who are trying to do something with the items on the production line. very strange dream. i haven't asked it to stop yet because although the subject matter is quite similar, there are variations. like i'm not always fighting, and the number 9 is not always there, but i recognize the environs, and know this is the same place i dreamt about the night before.

who knows..



posted on Oct, 3 2008 @ 12:29 AM
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No ,its not sleep apnea .



posted on Oct, 3 2008 @ 12:52 AM
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Interesting . Are you sure it was earths moon ? asteroid mining goes on everywhere and they kind of all look pretty much the same .

I have all sorts of dreams that prove to be precognitive or memories of past lives . Others are very lucid .I know I am dreaming and reviewing something that happened . Lucidity is hard to maintain for long periods of time but certainly interesting .

If time is relative and your brain contains a stargate ,then logically you can travel 'in spirit' both forwards and backwards . Physicaly no , not without technology .But projecting your awareness or whatever you care to call it , yes I think thats very much possible .

security clearance via DNA is vital to security in high tech military applications . DNA has vast storage capability along with the brain but since DNA also has transdimensional capabilities you can hide valuable knowledge in multiple dimensions making it very hard for an enemy to crack the code . You yourself have already smugled away the vital info so that not even you can access it until the right time .

Time can be used to hide many things .Altairian Nano is fourth dimension capable ! Which is why they make jokes about hiding weaponry up their ass so no one can find it !
yes ,I have seen my friend 'pull it out of nowhere ' a few times .
and theres no way his ass is that big ! or is it ?

remember the tardis being bigger on the inside ! And captain jack harkness pulling his big pistol out while stark naked ?

its all real tech undo ,its all real I assure you .

Remember the magnet . all it is is atoms aligned in the same direction so they 'gate' energy from zero point . From nothing ,all things come.

Inside out ,boy you turn me ,upside down ,round and round....



posted on Oct, 3 2008 @ 01:34 AM
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One of the things you will notice if you have been in the presence of a feeding ancient is physical exhaustion ,feeling drained . The human body is an energy battery . They need proximity ,ideally touch but either way ,dont stay around if you start to feel your energy level dropping quickly . Thats why I dont go near Enki's mother anymore .


I just posted a story about my personal experience that is eerily similar to your description. Can you please provide more information?



posted on Oct, 3 2008 @ 05:36 AM
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thats interesting.
So God was so grieved by mankind he made so he wiped them out.
But why animals of land or air?
What did they do wrong?
Why put all the effort into making all these animals only to destroy them?
Man i can understand but a bird?



posted on Oct, 3 2008 @ 07:18 AM
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one of the reasons is that everything was polluted. the earth was polluted, the genome of the animals, polluted. hybrids of all kinds were rampant and apparently some of the combinations were very bad



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