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Originally posted by jritzmann
Just a side note to one of Greer's claims of having "briefed" former CIA director and others. Unlike Greer's claims, this has some solid proof...that Greer completely misrepresented the "meeting".
www.ufowatchdog.com...
Originally posted by nexusmagazine
Originally posted by jritzmann
Just a side note to one of Greer's claims of having "briefed" former CIA director and others. Unlike Greer's claims, this has some solid proof...that Greer completely misrepresented the "meeting".
www.ufowatchdog.com...
there is no 'solid proof' of anything at ufowatchdog.com - just lots of accusations, guilt by association, and guilt by proclamation.
Originally posted by MrdDstrbr
reply to post by Jeremy_Vaeni
You're looking at it all wrong, see.
Woolsey, and his friend, essentially confessed, in writing, to having dinner with Greer. Sure, they object to it being called a "briefing" - but they still admit to meeting with and having dinner with Greer.
You don't find that odd, that the founder of CSETI and the sitting CIA director had dinner together? You think the two of them just happen to be buddies and they just happen to like to have little dinner parties together just for kicks?
Woolsey and friends were railroaded into publicly denying that Greer briefed them. Because briefing a sitting CIA director is something that would give Greer way too much credibility......
Originally posted by Jeremy_Vaeni
No, I don't find it odd. I would find it odd if it were a private dinner but they made it clear they were seated at a table with Greer at a dinner event. It's not clear what the event is, but I'll go out on a limb and say it was a political fund raiser or something along those lines and the Greers happened to be seated at the same table.
You know, all of the usual disinfo tricks. This isn't one of 'em. They're signing off saying, "Hey this dude's lying" in a kind way that seems credible. Nothing is stopping them from just blatantly saying he's lying, which they could do or as I said, not addressing it at all. They bother because it irks them not because they're covering up.
You must have missed the letter signed by everyone at Greer's table at the dinner confirming that he, in fact, misrepresented the entire evening and forged quotes attributed to them for his book. That would be as close to solid proof as you can get without having been at the table. So when you say "guilt by proclamation" what you mean is, "Guilt by proclamation of everyone else involved in the conversation."
Originally posted by nexusmagazine
You must have missed the letter signed by everyone at Greer's table at the dinner confirming that he, in fact, misrepresented the entire evening and forged quotes attributed to them for his book. That would be as close to solid proof as you can get without having been at the table. So when you say "guilt by proclamation" what you mean is, "Guilt by proclamation of everyone else involved in the conversation."
show me letters signed by the witnesses giving testimony at the National Press Club, that express any discontent about Greer, and how he represented them. That is something I will take seriously.
Duncan
Originally posted by Jeremy_Vaeni
I don't have a letter but I can give you my word from our conversations that if Robert Salas had a do-over he wouldn't be associated with Greer. We know Lesley Kean didn't invite him to her huge disclosure press conference and she used to work with him. And then there's Edgar Mitchell:
Of all the people mentioned a couple of posts above the only name I recognize is Alfred Webre another fruitcake of Learian proportions.
Hey, I'd love for these guys to be the real deal too, but they just aren't.
Originally posted by Jeremy_Vaeni
If you want to put your trust in Alfred "Alien beams took down the towers" Webre and Michael "I can teach you to commune with dolphins for money" Salla, be my guest.
If you believe there's a federation of 57 alien species dying for us to get with the program so they can open up Galactic NAFTA, that's fine.
If lispy fey guys who ask for your tax stimulus money are your thing, who am I to judge? By all means, pay up!
Just don't whine when the real truth is disclosed.
Originally posted by Jeremy_Vaeni
I don't have a letter but I can give you my word from our conversations that if Robert Salas had a do-over he wouldn't be associated with Greer. We know Lesley Kean didn't invite him to her huge disclosure press conference and she used to work with him. And then there's Edgar Mitchell
Originally posted by nexusmagazine
Once again, you have NO evidence that Greer is a fraud
Originally posted by tezzajw
Originally posted by nexusmagazine
Once again, you have NO evidence that Greer is a fraud
Yes we do - Mothra.
Remember the Mothra Incident.
Originally posted by nexusmagazine
I heard some vague references to it, and I just tried googling it - not much around. Maybe you can refresh us with why the Mothra Incident is evidence of fraud?
Originally posted by tezzajw
Originally posted by nexusmagazine
I heard some vague references to it, and I just tried googling it - not much around. Maybe you can refresh us with why the Mothra Incident is evidence of fraud?
Enjoy reading this thread.
Note that some of the images (from ATS members) don't load any longer, as they have probably been deleted from their respective accounts. Remember, this was more than a year ago.
Naturally, cult greer removed the images of their fraud, after it realised it was sprung trying to pull another trick.