Are they really shapeshifting reptilians?

Alright, I read all about what you said. You do have a point...but..i don't think that, that is the case. I know a lot about the illuminati, got some info from my dad, online, books, etc. Well, the Illuminati do not want you to believe in them. that's what I know. As for reptilians...well they do exist. And it wasn't a hologram...well...actually everything is an illusion, so I guess it doesn't even matter does it, lol?

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That can be explained as retention and consolidation of power.



That these families have been using human sacrifice rituals for thousands of years is based on what evidence exactly?



That's not history, that's mythology.



What I see is circumstantial evidence for Reptillian existence. A mixture of ancient mythology and symbology, popular fiction, a handful of documented but unreliable second-hand reports.

Has it occured that ancient mythology is often allegorical?... For example, a reptillian God in an ancient myth could simply be a personalisation of the Draco star constellation within the allegory (much like disciples of Jesus can be viewed allegorically as the sign of the Zodiac).

Given the ideas about the holographic universe and quantum physics, I don't find the idea of "shape-shifting" that difficult of a concept to wrap ones mind around, BUT without a modicum of plausable evidence beyond a 'joining the dots' conspiracy theory, I find the case for the exitence of a Reptillian elite ruling race a very difficult one to make successfully persuasive.

I'll admit, joining the dots does make an attractive 'Grand Theory of all Conspiracy', but if you deconstruction that grand theory into it's separate parts, they seem to come unstuck very quickly.

I dont go for the reptilian thing.
Shape shifting? where is the proof just like with the ufos where is it?
I think this is disinfo to get people to focus else where.
What about the gorilas shifting in to skonks or the dolfins theory, evil dollfins shape shifitng in to dogs, do you belive me?I can give a explenation(riped out of the sci-fi) version.


The only explenations I see is, well it cant be captured because it's not visible to the naked eye, and then the contradiction comes "I saw a blond lady shift shape"
So if it's not visible to the naked eye how do you see it in the first place?

And then others come and say, how can you be so ignorant, they exist.
Ignorant to what?
Can some one explain to me from a to z everything.

Facts: people die, when they die they leave a skeleton behind that will stay there.
All people die, there are records of every one that dies, he or she is buried.
That person will desintegrate by time and a skeleton wiill remain of that person, so I dont see how is this thing with"they are all around us" when all of the people by record are buried, there are records of people that passed away of every one, do you think lizards work the mortuary too
Rarerly some one disapears and is never herd of again, usualy they are found killed.

Now the NWO is something diferent.

Who is ignorant, again?

Icke and co. believe that the lizards drink/need pure blood from aryan people so they can "maintain" their sanity and shape (or something like that). Like you, Icke loses me at the reptilian part.


This is another place I take issue with Icke. He's more than willing to give you all the info you need about the topic...for a price (books and dvds). I can't figure out why some one who thinks there is a global conspiracy would give a hoot whether or not you bought a book, dvd or whatever. I would think the only thing he'd care about was you becoming informed.

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Hi there, I understand everything you are saying. Did you know that I had a reptilian experience myself. But at the time I was having it, I didn't even know what they were or who David Icke was, I have never heard of reptilians.

So I am going to pod cast my reptilian experience. It happened with an astral projection in Florida at my grandma and grandpas apartment. I was astral projecting FIRST, and then...then I went back to my body and the stupid things followed me. When I was back in my body, the thing jumped on me, and I pulled the sheets over my head, and I heard the ZEEP ZEEP ZEEP, I was aware that the thing was there. Then I opened my eyes for real, ...no FOR real! Not sleep paraylsis. Anyways, there were two of them, and one was on the other side, the other was on top of me. Then it jumped of, and and I sat up and looked at it. my heart was thumping in my chest...I saw it..it was hideous. Dark green...chessire cat grin...I'll explain it later...but these things are real. They went into the dark of the bathroom and vanished...I turned on the lights and tv and couldn't go back to sleep.

Anyways, there is just too much evidence that people refuse to look for to prove that reptilians exist. Shape-shifting, yes, but not in the physical sense...it's a matter of possessing the host. Yes. Well thankgod I wasn't possessed. I am aware that these reptilians dwell in the 4th demension...THIS is why people can't get proof. Many can not see this place. Only at times you can.

As for the shapeshifters...well that's hard to get evidence, since A, they are protected, B they are famous..sorta, and C they'll kill you if you even try to reveal them, and D they are extremely secretive....very. How do I know that they are shifters? Well...it makes sense. Everything, when you put the rituals, bilderburger conferences, 9/11, aliens and UFOs, symbolism, and mythology plus history together...then you get this word popping up in your head... "OHYEAH"

Well good luck with your ever going search for the truth. I know I have found mine, but many are too ignorant to handle it, and always either have to have a scientific fact for it. Some people aren't spiritual either...so that makes it a lot harder for them....and the most important, you have to keep an open mind.

Wow that's long, I gotta go. In school.... Take care!!!*

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[edit on 7-3-2006 by whitelightwolf]

How come they didint kill you, they were in front of you, and more you would be a witnes they had even more reason to do it.

What evidence? can you show me a picture of them?
I can simply say that I can fly, and once I felt from the air from 1000 feet and I broke my leg, and it's real, do you belive me?



Aha see my first quote, you would not be talking to us.
You argue with u'r self.

I am so glad we get a David Icke forum.





Now we know who the crazy people are.

For those that disbelieve

Have you ever taken the time to ask your self why they have reptilians in the media. Say the movie V, GI Joe cartoon, most cartoons envolving increasing the earths tempature. They are there to basically desensitize the american and world eye to the fact that they can exist. It is no different then porn. You become less effected by it the more you are exposed.

Have you ever thought that maybe he is not so much different from some of us here or most of us here and is adhd. the mind travels faster then the brain can keep up. Hard to understand till you are in our shoes.(not mine they smell a little) thought to try to add humor. New concept in my life. Military child hood. sorry won't do it again.

You see from above how fast and easy a converstation can change with us. I almost explained my life.

Our brains are almost described by ME as having two clear identities into thought that argue and confirm with each other. We analyze and over analyze certain things.