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reply posted on 4-3-2006 @ 01:34 AM by whitelightwolf
Originally posted by MMP
Originally posted by whitelightwolf
Originally posted by MMP
I'll be the first to say that I don't buy into the whole reptilian bit. Everything that I have read, heard from people or watched about this topic seems kind of lacking. The whole idea of reptilian monsters in positions of power reminds me of a cartoon I watched when I was 8 or 9 years old about Conan and his father's sword forged from star metal. The sword
would glow when ever he was near the creatures and a butt-kicking soon followed. Any of you remember that show?


That really is a shame my friend...that means that the illuminati and reptilians have succeeded in making you "not believe in them" Actually they didn't have to do anything...you did it for them. Well it's just too bad, I suggest that you keep an open mind. I believe that they exist...actually wait a minute. no, lol, I KNOW they exist, because I have seen them. Like I said before, I do not have photo or video proof to back this up. But I did see them. Take it..or leave it. And they are here.

I'll leave it.

I never said I didn't believe there is some type of illuminati - trust me I do (you can thank my grandpa's rants about a trilateral council), I said I don't believe in giant lizards roaming around different dimensions trying control the world's population. Speaking of being open minded, do you believe in unicorns, mermaids and little a fairy that collects teeth? If you don't then they have succeeded in pulling the wool over your eyes!

(It's pretty easy to tell some one they have fallen victim disinformation, isn't it?)

Where I take the most issue with people like David Icke is their willingness to share enlightenment/understanding with you for profit (i.e. books and DVDs). The issue I take with folks who claim they've seen a lizard or whatever the theory calls for is that by now, human beings should know what you see is NOT what you get. Humans can be duped, in fact we'll actually pay to be duped! How many of you have ever watched a magician perform? Let me ask you, whitelightwolf, what if the lizard you saw was just an illusion cooked up by the illuminati to throw you off the real scent? What if they have succeeded in making you believe false information because you trust what you see?

I don't claim be an expert on conspiracy matters but the problem with theories like David's and many others is the illusion of being in the know and the power that comes with that. This gives way to self importance and is why people will blindly follow or believe. Everybody would like to have some type of leverage or power over the people around them. It's sad but true. Even if the reptilians did exist, in the grand scheme of things do you really think you're important to these lizards? It's fun to think, but the truth is you're probably not.

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Alright, I read all about what you said. You do have a point...but..i don't think that, that is the case. I know a lot about the illuminati, got some info from my dad, online, books, etc. Well, the Illuminati do not want you to believe in them. that's what I know. As for reptilians...well they do exist. And it wasn't a hologram...well...actually everything is an illusion, so I guess it doesn't even matter does it, lol?

Take care


reply posted on 4-3-2006 @ 03:49 AM by VelvetSplash
Originally posted by LetKnowledgeDrop
How else would you explain why the royal families constantly interbreed with themselves. To keep the blood pure.


That can be explained as retention and consolidation of power.

Originally posted by LetKnowledgeDrop
How else would you explain the human sacrifice rituals that these families have been involved in for thousands of years, and still continues to this day.


That these families have been using human sacrifice rituals for thousands of years is based on what evidence exactly?

Originally posted by LetKnowledgeDropRead your history books. The first emperor of China was said to be a dragon, just one of many examples.


That's not history, that's mythology.

Originally posted by LetKnowledgeDrop
I dont see any alternative explanation. If anyone has one, feel free to share it.


What I see is circumstantial evidence for Reptillian existence. A mixture of ancient mythology and symbology, popular fiction, a handful of documented but unreliable second-hand reports.

Has it occured that ancient mythology is often allegorical?... For example, a reptillian God in an ancient myth could simply be a personalisation of the Draco star constellation within the allegory (much like disciples of Jesus can be viewed allegorically as the sign of the Zodiac).

Given the ideas about the holographic universe and quantum physics, I don't find the idea of "shape-shifting" that difficult of a concept to wrap ones mind around, BUT without a modicum of plausable evidence beyond a 'joining the dots' conspiracy theory, I find the case for the exitence of a Reptillian elite ruling race a very difficult one to make successfully persuasive.

I'll admit, joining the dots does make an attractive 'Grand Theory of all Conspiracy', but if you deconstruction that grand theory into it's separate parts, they seem to come unstuck very quickly.


reply posted on 7-3-2006 @ 08:55 AM by whitelightwolf
Originally posted by RiotComing
Originally posted by Sri Oracle
Originally posted by LoneGunMan
why has there not been an accident where a first responder got there and found the shapeshifted alien?


There is a distinct difference between the physical (3rd) and the spirit (4th). One must be "looking" in the spirit world to even note the presence of a reptilian. Besides, it is likely that the Reptilian embodiment of the host would end as the energy source waned due to the accident. In the sensory world the accident victim will always look like an accident victim. It is in the supersensory that one makes note of demonic/angelic possesion.

-Sri Oracle


This explanation is spot-on. You'll be hard-pressed to find a photograph or a real-life encounter with a reptilian being, as they don't exist in our limited sensory realm (our 5 basic senses). The people who have experienced these things first hand have been able to somehow see into a whole new vibrational frequency, the extradimensional.

So, unless you have a fancy-Nancy camera that can take pics within this extra dimension, you're NEVER going to see the proof. You'll never see the evidence. It then almost becomes a faith not by sight but by belief (and I'd like to read David's thoughts on this) if you are as an individual, unable to untap these frequencies.

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Hi there, I understand everything you are saying. Did you know that I had a reptilian experience myself. But at the time I was having it, I didn't even know what they were or who David Icke was, I have never heard of reptilians.

So I am going to pod cast my reptilian experience. It happened with an astral projection in Florida at my grandma and grandpas apartment. I was astral projecting FIRST, and then...then I went back to my body and the stupid things followed me. When I was back in my body, the thing jumped on me, and I pulled the sheets over my head, and I heard the ZEEP ZEEP ZEEP, I was aware that the thing was there. Then I opened my eyes for real, ...no FOR real! Not sleep paraylsis. Anyways, there were two of them, and one was on the other side, the other was on top of me. Then it jumped of, and and I sat up and looked at it. my heart was thumping in my chest...I saw it..it was hideous. Dark green...chessire cat grin...I'll explain it later...but these things are real. They went into the dark of the bathroom and vanished...I turned on the lights and tv and couldn't go back to sleep.

Anyways, there is just too much evidence that people refuse to look for to prove that reptilians exist. Shape-shifting, yes, but not in the physical sense...it's a matter of possessing the host. Yes. Well thankgod I wasn't possessed. I am aware that these reptilians dwell in the 4th demension...THIS is why people can't get proof. Many can not see this place. Only at times you can.

As for the shapeshifters...well that's hard to get evidence, since A, they are protected, B they are famous..sorta, and C they'll kill you if you even try to reveal them, and D they are extremely secretive....very. How do I know that they are shifters? Well...it makes sense. Everything, when you put the rituals, bilderburger conferences, 9/11, aliens and UFOs, symbolism, and mythology plus history together...then you get this word popping up in your head... "OHYEAH"

Well good luck with your ever going search for the truth. I know I have found mine, but many are too ignorant to handle it, and always either have to have a scientific fact for it. Some people aren't spiritual either...so that makes it a lot harder for them....and the most important, you have to keep an open mind.

Wow that's long, I gotta go. In school.... Take care!!!*

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reply posted on 7-3-2006 @ 10:45 AM by pepsi78

So I am going to pod cast my reptilian experience. It happened with an astral projection in Florida at my grandma and grandpas apartment. I was astral projecting FIRST, and then...then I went back to my body and the stupid things followed me. When I was back in my body, the thing jumped on me, and I pulled the sheets over my head, and I heard the ZEEP ZEEP ZEEP, I was aware that the thing was there. Then I opened my eyes for real, ...no FOR real! Not sleep paraylsis. Anyways, there were two of them, and one was on the other side, the other was on top of me. Then it jumped of, and and I sat up and looked at it. my heart was thumping in my chest...I saw it..it was hideous. Dark green...chessire cat grin...I'll explain it later...but these things are real. They went into the dark of the bathroom and vanished...I turned on the lights and tv and couldn't go back to sleep.

How come they didint kill you, they were in front of you, and more you would be a witnes they had even more reason to do it.

Anyways, there is just too much evidence that people refuse to look for to prove that reptilians exist.

What evidence? can you show me a picture of them?
I can simply say that I can fly, and once I felt from the air from 1000 feet and I broke my leg, and it's real, do you belive me?



As for the shapeshifters...well that's hard to get evidence, since A, they are protected, B they are famous..sorta, and C they'll kill you if you even try to reveal them

Aha see my first quote, you would not be talking to us.
You argue with u'r self.


reply posted on 13-8-2009 @ 03:44 PM by madeioo
Originally posted by LetKnowledgeDrop
I believe they are reptilian shape-shifters. If theyare not, reptilian shape-shifters are here on Earth, because Ive talked to a number of people who claim to have experiences with them.

How else would you explain why the royal families constantly interbreed with themselves. To keep the blood pure.

MADEIOO: or to consolidate powers and use royal marriages as a tool to solidify alliances. Take the Habsburg dinasty case, they are probably the royal line that most famously inter-bred with the objective of keeping a hold on their power. Why would a reptilian elite interbred to the point that Charles II the last of the spanish hapsburgs, was not only severly disabled due to genetic conditions, he was short, lame, epileptic, senile, and completely bald before thirty-five, he also was infertile and due to that the hapsburg house died with him.

How else would you explain the human sacrifice rituals that these families have been involved in for thousands of years, and still continues to this day.

MADEIOO: What human sacrifices?

How else would you explain the fact that they claim to have a right to rule over the masses because of their relation to the ''gods''. Read your history books. The first emperor of China was said to be a dragon, just one of many examples.

MADEIOO: Every ruler before the renaissance was in some way or another "favoured" by the gods. In some parts of the world the ruler was a god himself, if you go back 60 years, the japanase emperor was considered a god by the people of Japan, although I'm unsure how many japanese still believe that this day and age. I see proof here that man will use religion to advance their own agendas, not of some reptilian menace.

I dont see any alternative explanation. If anyone has one, feel free to share it.



Now we got that out of the way, the following are genuine unbiased questions:

- Why are they interested in Earth in particular?
- How did they arrive here?
- Why didn't they manoeuvre the world into staying under monarchies, as now they have to assume different shapes every time we change rulers?


reply posted on 17-8-2009 @ 09:44 AM by ginger13
reply to post by LetKnowledgeDrop



I think YOU are a Lizard Morpher dude guy. lol. No, I really don't. I don't think there is even such thing as one. Just listen to yourself say "I saw a reptilian shape-shifter." It really doesn't make much sense at all. To me, it just doesn't make ANY sense that some think that lizards can fly spaceships down to earth, turn into a cat/dog/human etc. and get away with it SO easily!! Wouldn't you think that maybe someone would have caught one in a jar or a cage or even on video!


reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 11:09 PM by Ghost in the Machine
reply to post by whitelightwolf



With all do respect I have to disagree. If there are shape shifting reptiles all over the planet you'd think there would be at least some sort of physical evidence. This, in my opinion, is just silly. We have pictures of aliens (Hoax or not, there are still pics/vids) ghosts, mythical creatures etc etc... but yet no media on shape shifting people who some how can rearrange the organs and bones in their bodies to somehow become a less evolved creature, all this for what purpose exactly?

It just seems to me that changing into giant lizards serves no purpose at all.


reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 04:34 AM by dontbelievehype
With all due respect to whitelightwolf (or whatever the name is, sorry if it's a mistake) and others who hold this ideas as indisputable truth - the trouble is the arguments don't hold up.

The one about the Royal family interbreeding - the highest status elites always keep to their own officially except where they sire bastards in which case the commonfolk do just as nicely.

There are many in the world who believe they are commonfolk but actually have some connection with the elites hundreds of years ago. They are just not in the circle of power anymore (a branch of the family fell out of favor and the family lands were seized or sold off) or they are descended from illigitimate offspring of the elites.

A limited circle in which to form marriage alliances and interbreed will keep that power, influence and wealth in the hands of the same people.
The fact that the Bushes and others have blood connections to England's royal family just goes to show how the power structures remain in place and perpetuate themselves. The Bush family were well heeled in England and then went off to the land of opportunity and increased that wealth.

President Obama (whom I consider to be the hollow man irrespective of skin color - just sealing all his records reveals there is a fraudulent past somewhere) is related to the Bush family on his mother's side. His mother was a Stanley (another old English aristocratic family) and despite all the bull# about how she was a single mother etc, she was a highly educated woman from an upper middle class background.

There is nothing reptilian about staying within your own circle to intermarry.

Whitelightwolf gives as evidence his astral projection experience. Sorry, but if you want us to belive in this reptilian conspiracy as hard fact you have to deal in the world of hard fact. Astral projection can be true but it is in a realm that is very subjective and based within the psychic realm. The realm of the psyche can be true or it can be utterly delusional.

Human sacrifices - I have to say I believe there are individuals and occultic groups out there who will stop at nothing to gain energy and power through evil means such as blood sacrifices. I have no doubt that these account for a percentage of the missing people in our societies. But how widespread it is cannot be answered unless one is actually acquainted with the kinds of people who do this.

It's easy to accuse Queen Elizabeth et al of such sacrifices but this is a highly controversial area and proof would be from somebody willing to put their real name, real details, real proof as in photographic and video out there.


reply posted on 17-10-2009 @ 12:21 AM by glitchinmymatrix
reply to post by MMP



And, if these reptilians did exist, why would they risk being discovered by a select few while refusing to reveal themselves to more people or most people? What harm would it be? They so-say can shapeshift or glow, well certainly that would make them more than human. If they are so powerful, then they have no reason to fear regular humans. They could easily simply just kill the useless ones and keep the ones they want. (Maybe 'they' will but still need another person(s).) Not sure, but I've never seen one that I can remember.

It stands to reason to me, though, that if these otherworldly lizard-men haven't killed off everyone yet, then there's something or someone they still want or need. So, they maybe want to convert someone or use someone to unlock or find something? I don't know, but if they are so powerful, resistance to them would be difficult (though I'm not aware of the extent of their 'powers') or useless.

We'll find out one day I suppose.


reply posted on 29-1-2010 @ 03:53 AM by ChristosAlliance
reply to post by glitchinmymatrix



Greetings all. Nice thread, thanks to the OP.
I spent some time researching this topic and came to the following hypothesis.
The Beings ruling the Earth are not Reptilian. They have 3rd Density Human bodies but are neither of this planet nor Density. They find the whole Reptilian shape shifting thing very amusing. Mr Icke was the victim of dissinformation aimed at distorting his otherwise well intended STO message. The old "create some fear" trick, always works.
Reptilians do indeed exist, some are here on and in the Earth, but none pose any sort of real threat to us.
Love & Light
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