NEWS: AP Video...Bush warned 4 days ahead of Katrina

Originally posted by dgtempe
What happened to that sea of mobile homes????
They are disintegrating just sitting there....

Yep. They can't sell them because I'm sure they are
below standard and they'd get sued. They have to
be torn down. I suppose it's easier to just let them
sit and rot. What else can be done with them?
I dunno.

"Disaster -> house destroyed -> insurance people come and confim house destroyed -> people file claim -> people recieve money -> people have choice, either rebuild or move. "


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didn't work that way, did it...

didn't the insurance companies find nice loopholes to get out of their obligation, therefore, claims were denied, therfore, people can nieither rebiuld or move on??

ya know, the weather's been acting really wackly lately. today it's up close to 70 and really quite nice, by this weekend, well, another storm plowing through I guess. It's getting so you just don't know what to expect next. I'd go a little easier on the people of New Orleans. Floods and other disasters could hit just about anywhere it seems.....do YOU have flood insurance??

Originally posted by dawnstar
didn't work that way, did it...

didn't the insurance companies find nice loopholes to get out of their obligation, therefore, claims were denied, therfore, people can nieither rebiuld or move on??

That's why I put insurance companies on my list of people who should be blamed.

ya know, the weather's been acting really wackly lately. today it's up close to 70 and really quite nice, by this weekend, well, another storm plowing through I guess. It's getting so you just don't know what to expect next.

This happens EVERY Febuary and March. People tend to have short term memories however.

I'd go a little easier on the people of New Orleans. Floods and other disasters could hit just about anywhere it seems.....do YOU have flood insurance??

Yep, and I don't even live in a particularly flood or hurricane prone area. Way back in '54 however a hurricane came through and flooded everything, since then flood insurance comes with buying a house in this area (I'm pretty sure this isn't the case in all of Maryland though), which if I'm not mistaken is the case in NO and most of the southeast.

What about the city taking money that was supposed to fix the levy's and putting into general reserves?

What about the state not asking Washington for help eg. declare it a disaster zone?

What about the rumours that city council is in 'bed' with property developers and speculators that want to develop the flooded areas into a new southern version of Los Vegas?

Hmmmm????

what about we just accept the fact that they are all a bunch of crooks, and well, that if our home and all of our belongings are totaled, well, just accept the fact that we are on our own?

Not only did the Bush administration know of what could happen before Katrina went ashore but every single citizen of New Orleans knew as well!

Responsibility falls solely on the hands of the local and state governments.

What's wrong with you critics of the federal government? People were warned over and over to get the hell out of New Orleans but they decided to stay.

I fully support the option of forcefully removing citizens at gunpoint the next time an impeding natural disaster is forecasted.

To me, some people will whine about any and everything. I say GROW UP!

This has got to be one of the sadest and most pathetic threads I've read on ATS in a very long time.

Some people are really showing their true colours and should be ashamed of themselves IMO.
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Originally posted by Gools
This has got to be one of the sadest and most pathetic threads I've read on ATS in a very long time.

Some people are really showing their true colours and should be ashamed of themselves IMO.

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Thank god someone else sees that. I think some of the responses are ridiculous, pathetic, partisan, and hypocritical....

You know who you are.

EDIT: Oh, and factually wrong.

[edit on 2-3-2006 by loam]

Originally posted by esdad71
I am not defending Bush, I am trying to put the blame where it belongs.

This isn't about who is to blame because of demarcation disputes.

This is about the President of the USA, and his team, lying to the people of the USA.

The President. Lying. People. Dying.

(No, I am not about to break into song).

The President (and his team) lying "We are fully prepared".

The President continuing to lie ("Brownie, you're doin' a heckuva job").

The President (and his team) lying ("We didn't become aware of that until...). Why would Brown say FEMA weren't aware of something occurring after they predicted that it would?

And then the best the President can do is commiserate with Trent Lott after he "lost his whole house". What, Trent Lott only owns one house?

The President lied (and not for the first time). End of story.

Originally posted by grover

Originally posted by mOjOm
thesaneone & jrod, you're both missing the point here. It's not about the victims of the hurricane and what they did or did not do. The point is to show that Bush, Chertoff and others were informed and aware of the serious nature of Hurrican Katrina hitting the U.S. before the event happened leaving no excuses for thier lack of response.

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[edit on 1-3-2006 by mOjOm]

.... There is no accounting for what average people will do but there is (or should be) accounting for what the government and especially the federal government does of doesn't do...after all the welfare of ALL the people of our country is its mandate.

That may be your point and why you started this thread. My point is the government is not a miracle worker. There were likely many levels of government that was not prepared and still aren't and won't be when another big storm takes aim at a populated city.


[edit on 2-3-2006 by jrod]

Originally posted by jrod
My point is the government is not a miracle worker. There were likely many levels of government that was not prepared and still aren't and won't be when another big storm takes aim at a populated city.

I can agree completely with this post, but that is the subject of another thread. This one is about the President lying about what he knew.

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We keep getting reports in some places that maybe water is coming over the levees," Gov. Kathleen Blanco said shortly after noon on Aug. 29, according to the video. "We heard a report unconfirmed, I think, we have not breached the levee. I think we have not breached the levee at this time."

this was AFTER the storm hit...

Originally posted by esdad71

We keep getting reports in some places that maybe water is coming over the levees," Gov. Kathleen Blanco said shortly after noon on Aug. 29, according to the video. "We heard a report unconfirmed, I think, we have not breached the levee. I think we have not breached the levee at this time."

this was AFTER the storm hit...

And that has what to do with the President's misrepresentations?

Btw, how many hours did it take before it was plastered on national television that the levees had indeed failed? What does her error have to do with the subject of this thread?

The point of this thread is to show a video and clarify what Brown said. That he did indeed inform the incompetent president of what was going on.

You know, i'm getting so good at understanding if what i am being told is "true" or a "lie"!!! I knew Brown was telling the truth. The truth ALWAYS rings of the truth.

Now, was Bush warned 4 days ahead of Katrina??? YES

He was warned and ignored it because he is a failure.

Look, New Orleans was warned YEARS before the levees broke, but they felt the need to spend the money on other things lke lobbying for casinos and Mardi Gras.

There is no misrepresentation. Do you anticipate getting into an accident every time you drive on the highway? Why not, you have a better chance of dying in an accident than a cat 4 storm hitting a major city.

This is nothing but a twist of words to attempt to put the blame on this entire thing on the federal government, and don't say other wise or you would be lying.

I added the link to show that it was comical that the day after this news 'leaked' the other footage did too. It is an election year folks, prepare yourself now.



[edit on 3-3-2006 by esdad71]

Originally posted by loam
And that has what to do with the President's misrepresentations?

Btw, how many hours did it take before it was plastered on national television that the levees had indeed failed? What does her error have to do with the subject of this thread?

That not just the federal govt failed, but also state and local, for example the governor assure the White House that the levees were okay, which in turn persuade the federal govt that the situation is not so bad as thought, by then its already too late to save some lives.

what a bunch of crap....

keep blaming the president......

nevermind all of the dumb Arse people who ignored the warning..

GET OUT !!!! does that sound familiar

The people who stayed were the ones who did not have:

1. Transportation;

2. Money;

3. Anywhere to go.


This has been discussed, illuminated, reiterated, repeated, hashed and rehashed.

Originally posted by soficrow
The people who stayed were the ones who did not have:

1. Transportation;

2. Money;

3. Anywhere to go.


This has been discussed, illuminated, reiterated, repeated, hashed and rehashed.

During mandatory evacuations free transportation is provided. During ALL hurricanes, free shelter is provided. The free transportation takes you to these free shelters.
If there was not enough transportation to get those people out, then again, that falls on state and local officials.

Originally posted by dgtempe
Now, was Bush warned 4 days ahead of Katrina??? YES

He was warned and ignored it because he is a failure.

1. Four days before it hit, it was in the middle of the Atlantic and it was a quess as to where it was going to go. The tape was made the day before Katrina

2. Ignored what?

Can you name another hurricane or disaster the magnitude of Katrina where all the resources needed to make a helpful difference came into play faster?