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Topic started on 28-2-2006 @ 08:43 PM by truthseeka
So,

I've been looking into the arguments creationists make, and quite frankly, I'm glad I have. I certainly do appreciate a good laugh. Now, I ain't trying to be mean, but seriously, can you look at some of this stuff and not laugh yourself?

A Scientific Analysis of The Bible

Now, you gotta love this guy. He says that science and biblical miracles can go hand in hand. OK...let's see.

1) He says that the burning bush could have simply been a shiny bush. The bush could have had a light shining from it, not burning, because the people back then associated fire with light. Well...

He offers no explanation as to where this light might have come from. I'm sure he would use the god power thing, though.

He assumes that the people were so stupid they could not distinguish "burning" from "shining." Never mind the references to bright lights and burning flames elsewhere in the book. I guess hell may not be a fiery place, but a bright, shining place. Sounds kinda like heaven to me...

2) He says the plagues involving animals is easily explained through biology.

OK, I can give him that, with the insects, at least. But then, he makes a leap and says science can explain water turning to blood or boils erupting on men. I have no idea how H2O instantaneously transforms to blood with its many components, but I guess that's a scientific process I am still unaware of.

3) He says the fire falling from the sky with hail "is unusual," but could have been either real fire or another mislabelled thing. Hmmm...maybe he should have thought about meteors. I have no idea what he has to say about the hail, though...

4) He says the Red Sea event was levitation of mass amounts of water. He adds that we can now levitate small objects, so this is plausible. Does he mean with superconductors? If so, problem is that they work on principles of physics; I'm not sure if we could levitate water with a superconductor. He also attributes walking on water and being lifted on a cloud as levitation.

Are you chuckling yet? Maybe even laughing? This guy says that science can explain biblical miracles, yet he shifts between them and expects you to agree with that. I think the burning bush was the funnier one here...

Now this one is where you might start laughing...

A General Analysis of Evolution

Now, this guy is one of many who naively believe that organisms are closed systems. But, he concludes without a doubt that entropy TOTALLY disproves evolution.

Then, he says that ecology proves evolution wrong. Here is where I definitely was laughing, mostly because I took a course called evolutionary ecology. In fact, he mentions that many ecologists accept evolution, but claims it's because they were told to do so. Wonder if he ever thought that this argument could be used to explain religious people.

He says that evolution will not work because any small change in an ecosystem will completely destroy the entire ecosystem. He appears to be speaking in absolutes here. I wonder if it ever occurred to him that if this were true, life would not still exist on this planet, especially due to human activities. Remember, he didn't say alter, he said DESTROY.

Is Creation Science A Science?

Now this one definitely had me laughing. He sets out to show that creation science is a science, but then starts blowing a lot of hot air about evolution and comes back around to say this shows creation science is a science.



No definition of science, only a brief mention of the scientific method. And he doesn't even show how creationism fits with this.

What Is Science?

Well, he does a better job this time, but it's still funny.

He says that science involves data collection and analysis to form ideas about things. He conveniently leaves out the "pertaining to the natural universe" thing, though.

In short order, he resorts to what he's been doing, trying to discredit evolution to prove creationism. How creationism would be proven even if evolutionary theory was scrapped entirely is beyond me. He says that scientists supporting evolution admit to others that the evidence itself is not enough to say evolution can or ever does happen.



Guess he missed the experiments, which creationism is so sorely lacking. Then, he says Darwinian evolution has been scrapped for punctuated equilibrium. I was unaware of this. He says people who support evolution believe in evolution without any evidence for it.



Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. He even goes on to say that the evidence for creation further disproves evolution, but conveniently fails to provide said evidence.



Oh, man, funny stuff. Next time I'll post stuff from the AIG website. They say dinosaurs and people co-existed and Homo sapiens is the only human species that ever lived, among other things.


reply posted on 1-3-2006 @ 05:23 AM by Produkt

1) He says that the burning bush could have simply been a shiny bush. The bush could have had a light shining from it, not burning, because the people back then associated fire with light. Well...

He offers no explanation as to where this light might have come from. I'm sure he would use the god power thing, though.

He assumes that the people were so stupid they could not distinguish "burning" from "shining." Never mind the references to bright lights and burning flames elsewhere in the book. I guess hell may not be a fiery place, but a bright, shining place. Sounds kinda like heaven to me...


Ack! I KNEW people were worshipping the wrong god! This guy just confirms it


2) He says the plagues involving animals is easily explained through biology.

OK, I can give him that, with the insects, at least. But then, he makes a leap and says science can explain water turning to blood or boils erupting on men. I have no idea how H2O instantaneously transforms to blood with its many components, but I guess that's a scientific process I am still unaware of.


Many stage magicians have done this before, including walking on water. The plague thing ... well, if we never developed medicine we'd be dealing with biblical plauges to this day too. Heck, we'd probably be extinct with all that smiting.



3) He says the fire falling from the sky with hail "is unusual," but could have been either real fire or another mislabelled thing. Hmmm...maybe he should have thought about meteors. I have no idea what he has to say about the hail, though...


Comet?



4) He says the Red Sea event was levitation of mass amounts of water. He adds that we can now levitate small objects, so this is plausible. Does he mean with superconductors? If so, problem is that they work on principles of physics; I'm not sure if we could levitate water with a superconductor. He also attributes walking on water and being lifted on a cloud as levitation.


Like OMG! Those guy's were right! Ancient man WAS technologicly advanced



He says that evolution will not work because any small change in an ecosystem will completely destroy the entire ecosystem. He appears to be speaking in absolutes here. I wonder if it ever occurred to him that if this were true, life would not still exist on this planet, especially due to human activities. Remember, he didn't say alter, he said DESTROY.


Hey ... god works in mysterious ways my man.



In short order, he resorts to what he's been doing, trying to discredit evolution to prove creationism. How creationism would be proven even if evolutionary theory was scrapped entirely is beyond me. He says that


Well look at it this way, if we scrapped evolution like he want's ... there'd be no competition for creationism, thus leaving it as the only explanation. What you don't teach the young one's, they don't know about.



Guess he missed the experiments, which creationism is so sorely lacking. Then, he says Darwinian evolution has been scrapped for punctuated equilibrium. I was unaware of this. He says people who support evolution believe in evolution without any evidence for it.


He's simply crazy. Plain and simple. Not only is there evidence, we've been seeing it happen. I even posted an article on it and had to endure an argument with a creationist because he didn't know what evolution was.
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