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*WARNING* Ghostly Activity Video May Stun Skeptics!

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posted on Feb, 28 2006 @ 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by Dulcimer

Convient camera.


Nothing convenient about it, I also often take part in my evening hobby of twighlight playground cinematography.

(Although I have to make sure that there are no children about so as not to be mistaken as a pervert.)




posted on Feb, 28 2006 @ 02:18 PM
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To me, it does not look a natural movement.

When it starts swinging, first it goes to left but when it goes to the right it stops in the place where it started, it should have gone further than the starting place.

Also, it looks like the swing does not only move in the normal way but it also shakes sideways, like if someone was pushing or pulling the swing not exactly in the center. When someone is swinging it also has more tension no the ropes, chains, etc. that support the swing, because of the weight of the person swinging.

Try to find a video of some child swinging, it is easier that way to see if this looks real or not.



posted on Mar, 1 2006 @ 08:10 AM
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I have to agree from the jerky movement at one point it's probably being pulled by a long line.


[edit on 1-3-2006 by librasleep]



posted on Mar, 1 2006 @ 08:21 AM
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Could easily have been staged with some fishing line and a off camera person. Magicians have this stuff "Kevlar Invisible Thread" I think its called and you cant even see it stand right next to them.

Not that this is the case but it could be done that way and thats what skeptics will say.



posted on Mar, 1 2006 @ 06:06 PM
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In the following video you can see two children swinging.

You can see what I meant about the supposed ghost video if you look at the chains that sustain the swings, they remain under stress because of the weight of the child, even if it is a small child.

In the "ghost video" the chains/ropes did not looked like they were under any stress, they jerked too much.

I hope I had made myself clear about this, some times it is difficult trying to explain something in another language.

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I forgot the link.


Swing

[edit on 1/3/2006 by ArMaP]



posted on Mar, 1 2006 @ 06:32 PM
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Agreed Dulcimer there is a certain slack that would not be there with weight in the seat. Suspect , but very good.



posted on Mar, 1 2006 @ 06:44 PM
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Does anybody know how much a ghost weights?



posted on Mar, 1 2006 @ 06:47 PM
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Originally posted by denythestatusquo
Does anybody know how much a ghost weights?


He/she/it must have enough weight to move a swing, or maybe that is not a ghost moving a swing.



posted on Mar, 1 2006 @ 07:02 PM
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it seems fake to me, because you know how when you start off on a swing you dont stop right in the middle, you got back, and when that first started it stopped where it originally was for a split second then started gaining momentum,plus if it really was a ghostsitting in the swing, im sure theyd know how to control especiall if it is a kid ghost it rather than sit there with it twisting back and forth, my guess at it would ne someone was ut of the camera view with a piece of string tied to the middle of the seat and pulling it, as to why it twisted, the string may not have been tied in the exact center of the seat, thats just my guess, but if it is real, then its real



posted on Mar, 1 2006 @ 07:04 PM
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I have really been interested in the paranormal since I was very young,and after a period of time one tend's to learn how a hoax can be produced. I for one think that your recording is authentic to say the least.
I watched a few times to see if I could really see anything that would debunk it ,and then I watched in the efforts to be able to affirm what I was exactly seeing.
It blows me away,all the potential and kenetic movements that you would need to move the swing as if someone were sitting on it takes place in front of your eye's.
For the people that are out there about to comment on your thread that are skeptical,"Don't even reply!" this is the a great piece of evidence for the paranormal community and if there is any one out there that could produce this,they are truly talented.
"I for one Am a believer!" Thnx for the vid!!!!



posted on Mar, 1 2006 @ 07:07 PM
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Here's the only problem I have with it. It was EXTREMELY considerate of the ghost to wait until the camera guy got zoomed in and focused before they almost instantly started swinging.



posted on Mar, 1 2006 @ 07:14 PM
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Actually if you watch it carefully it starts to swing very slightly before he zooms in. Anyways for all you people who say this can be done with a fishing line and not look laughable then please try and recreate it. I say this is authentic too



posted on Mar, 1 2006 @ 07:54 PM
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The more I check out this video the more I see the evidence in front of us.
Alot of the posts say that there is a possible way to reinact this situation the same way?C_Mon!!!

There is a little skepticism to the fact that the camera man was truly "On Time" for the event,but on the same token,I am sure there has been all kind's of folklar that go with this unique experience.
I stated before of how there is skepticism to this thread,but you have to really concentrate at all points of what takes place when some one get's into a swing and how they get into it. At first you can see that the swing initially moves in a circular motion, as if some one is contemplating to get on it. Then as the film goes a step farther, you see that the swing chains or rope (Not sure) do tend to create a slight arch and that is causewd by some kind of force,the swing next to it is a good comparison for this stage.then,just as any other swing,the momentum of it starts with a jittery and very chaotic movement but stays on the same plain that would be called for for someone to gradually get enough energy to produce the next pump for more energy. At this point you can see that the movement get's very progressive and does not falter for the initial energy nesseccary to keep it going and you still see the slightest arc of the chain or rope,even as the camera pans out for the closure of the event the swing is still continuing in the proper motion for momentum.
It is too bad that you can't get a complete video from begining to end of the whole event. Most extraordinary. I do have a little training in the physics back round and know that there is no energy without some form of power plant to initiate it.
For you skeptics out there, "Try watching it from the top of the frames each time and work your way down. Use the swing next to it to use as the referrance point needed each time you watch it. It does take a few times of watching it,but in the end ,you will see what I mean. There is something grasping the chain or the rope to cause a fluctuation in the gravity fed swing,just very hard to detect unless you do it step by step.

Hope some of the mathematical and paranormal people come to visit this thread,it truly does need some kind of scientific bak-up.

THANX AGAIN!!!!



posted on Mar, 1 2006 @ 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by picard_is_actually_a_grey
Actually if you watch it carefully it starts to swing very slightly before he zooms in.


You are right! That makes all the difference in the world. It was an ever so slight wiggle that you have to know to watch for. I'm assuming the camera person saw the wiggle, zoomed in, caught the full-meal-deal.

That's weird. Well, it's freaky is what it is.



posted on Mar, 1 2006 @ 09:06 PM
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Very well could be real. Very well could be a hoax. I did see the little jiggle before he zoomed in, but why was he taping there? Is it a known ghost hot spot? If so, and he was doing some sort of ghost hunting, then that gives the tape a little more credibility. Another question I have is how come no reaction from whoever is holding the camera, I would have said a few choice words for sure. But it'd be cool if the guy who taped this could give some background info on it for us.



posted on Mar, 1 2006 @ 09:47 PM
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I'm having trouble believing it for much the same reasons the other skeptics are giving.

1. Do ghosts move through stuff, or do they move it. One would have to be solid, while the other is not - are there two different types of spirits? I mean, is this like the movie "Ghost", where Swayze had to "learn" to move objects in our dimension? C'mon... if the "ghost" was able to move the swing, according to the laws of physics, he/she/it must have some mass. Having mass, it would keep the chains taut, not slack.

2. Whenever I see a video where someone is focused on something before the paranormal activity begins, it loses credibility with me. Yeah, there might be stories of the swing moving by itself, and that is why he was filming it... but at the exact time of it happening??? I don't think so. Most paranormal activity I've heard of isn't "regular" in its occurence(s). How much time was wasted on filming nothing before he caught this footage would be interesting to me.



posted on Mar, 1 2006 @ 10:39 PM
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Guys, I don't know whether ghosts have mass or not? I do know of residual haunting where the ghost did what they enjoy or did before the time of their death. It's incredible how many of you could say they probably wind the whole swing to a very, very long wire and move it from there.

Being this is Singapore, I don't think anyone can pull the trick out without catching the eye of the Police patrol or any passer-by.



posted on Mar, 1 2006 @ 11:37 PM
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I don't think this is fake. I've seen this sort of activity myself in neighbouring Malaysia. Heartagram, if you ever come to Kuala Lumpur, make a detour to USJ 11, Subang Jaya. Around the time just after sunset the swing at the playground on USJ 11/2D will start swinging.

No joke, I've seen it myself and it sent chills up my spine. There was no body in the playground (people are afraid to go to that particular playground) and there was no wind blowing. USJ 11 is the most haunted place in Subang Jaya. I've heard of all kinds of ghost reports there. And I've been witness to all kinds of unexplained activity there. Strangest thing I saw was a tall figure wearing a robe and a turban leaning against a lamp-post. What was so strange about this figure was that he was as tall as the lamp-post and the minute you notice him, he vanishes.

Rumour has it that the area used to be an 'Orang Asli' cemetary before the developers came.

The following is the exact coodinates of the swings:
3° 02' 32.93" N 101° 34' 55.67" E



posted on Mar, 1 2006 @ 11:41 PM
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That was creepy! I'll certainly feel different at playgrounds now. I've had some strange encounters that cannot be explained, so I'm not very skeptical about ghosts.



posted on Mar, 2 2006 @ 12:00 AM
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Very, very creepy. Logic tells me it must be a hoax, but my gut says otherwise. Without more info or a higher res version of the video we will never know. But prehaps someone in the Singapore paranormal community could find out who shot it? Then maybe we could see and longer/higher res version.

Vas



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