SU-37 computer?

How powerful are the SU-37's computers? I know that the the computers of the F/A-22 have the power of two super computers but what about the SU-37.

"F-22 or the Su-37A"
Link:
www.denyignorance.com...

Quoted by seekerof 29-9-2003 at 09:34 AM Post Number: 194260:

"As with the Su-37 having TVC, so will the F-22. Difference? The F-22's TVC is controlled by a supercomputer, and the F-22's high thrust to weight ratio (1.5-20), and the reduce of drag propel's the aircraft with great agility. The F-22 just doesn't rely solely on it's TVC to give it outstanding agility. Also keep in mind that the F-22's going to have better TVC controls than the Su-37....why? The F-22's TVC is controlled by a supercomputer, compared to that of the Su-37 with it's AL-37FU turbofans which is controlled by it's hydraulics system, and the MKIs AL-31FP are controlled by it's fuel system.
Further more, the F-22 has more then 1 main CPU (CIP) capable of more then 10.5 BILLION ops per second while the Su-3x's, that are 'just' coming off the assembly line, are being called technologically advanced and only having 486 class CPUs capable of only around 50 Thousand ops per second (50MIP's--for chrimmy's sake, the Nintendo GameBoy Advanced rivals a Sukhoi's at computing power). Thats almost more then a 20 years difference in computing technology IMHO. Also, the US NAVY's F/A-18C's, are shipped with 100+Mhz PowerPC CPU's (CIP's).... and last but not least, the F-22 has Phase Array Radar while the Su-3x's have, you guessed it, standard analog radar. This results in the F-22 being the only TRUE sensor-fused system, all of the avionic's and aircraft operations are run through the same 3 computers, and compiled into one picture."

"Sanders Delivers First F-22 EW System to the Avionics Integration Laboratory"
Link:
www.iews.na.baesystems.com...

"Simulator Sharpens Raptor's Claws"
Link:
www.us.net...

"The F-22 Common Integrated Processor is the first fully integrated avionics processing system."
Link:
www.raytheon.com...

"F-22 Raptor: Common Integrated Processor"
Link:
[url]http://216.239.51.104/search?q=cache:85fCnWNtz1IJ:www.edwards.af.mil/articles98/docs_html/splash/apr98/cover/CIP.htm+F-22+CIP&hl=en&ie=UTF-8[/url ]

Since the last link on the last article didn't work in the above mentioned topic where this information was originally posted, I will put it here:

""The Hughes-built Common Integrated Processor (CIP) is the 'brain' of the integrated avionics system � a system which has some unusual characteristics.

For instance, the F-22 has no radios, no navigation gear like TACAN or global positioning system or instrument landing system and no radar, in the traditional sense.

Rather than radar, the CIP, which is about the size of a oversized bread box, supports all signal and data processing for all sensors and mission avionics.

Reprogramming ability
The CIP modules have the ability to emulate any of the electronic functions through automatic reprogramming. For example, if the CIP module that is acting as radio dies, one of the other modules will automatically reload the radio program and take over the radio function.

This approach to avionics makes the equipment extremely tolerant to combat damage as well as flexible from a design upgrade point of view.

The aircraft's avionics architecture remains flexible to accept future upgrades without having to design and retrofit new hardware to the fighter.

Expandability
There are two CIPs in each F-22, with 66 module slots per CIP. They have identical backplanes and all of the F-22's processing requirements can be handled by only seven different types of processors. Currently, 19 of 66 slots in CIP 1 and 22 of 66 slots in CIP are open and available for expansion.

Each module is limited by design to only 75 percent of its capability, so the F-22 has 30 percent growth capability with no change to the existing equipment. There is space, power and cooling provisions in the aircraft now for a third CIP, so the requirement for a 200 percent avionics growth capability in the F-22 can be easily met.

There is coordinated plan for technology growth that will help keep the CIP at state-of-the-art levels. As electronics continue to get smaller and more powerful, it is conceivable that there could be 300 percent increase in avionics capability."


regards
seekerof

Thats some good info!

oh got some info that might help.

Avionics

Radar: NIIP N011M electronically scanned phased-array radar in nose. Ryazan rearward-facing radar in tailcone.
Flight: Laser-gyro INS and Glonass GPS.
Instrumentation: Sextant Avionique EFIS, with four liquid-crystal colour MFDs.

Originally posted by Seekerof
while the Su-3x's, that are 'just' coming off the assembly line, are being called technologically advanced and only having 486 class CPUs capable of only around 50 Thousand ops per second (50MIP's--for chrimmy's sake, the Nintendo GameBoy Advanced rivals a Sukhoi's at computing power). Thats almost more then a 20 years difference in computing technology

whata bunch of propaganda #



su-37 uses MERCURY COMPUTER SYSTEMS - HIGH PERFORMANCE REAL TIME MULTICOMPUTERS
which by the way JSF and JAAS Grippen also use

nice nintendo eh?



Mercury Computer Systems is the leading supplier of high-performance digital signal processing (DSP) and image processing systems for ISR. Mercury real-time multicomputers with industry-leading technology that supplies the compute power for leading-edge algorithms, and the scalability to grow in step with the processing requirements of deployed systems. Mercury's systems have been adopted in leading Air Force programs in North America, Europe, and Asia.

Mercury also provides full product support and an extensive range of services backed by in-depth knowledge of customer applications and strong engineering expertise.

Mercury leads the embedded computing industry in adoption and deployment of leading-edge technology including AltiVec and RapidIO. Mercury`s systems have been adapted in leading Air Force programs in North America, Europe, and Asia.


The aircraft is fitted with a multifunction, forward-looking, NO-11M pulse Doppler phased array radar, which can track up to 15 targets simultaneously and provide target designation and guidance to air-to-air missiles. NO-11M is manufactured by NIIP, the Tikhomirov Scientific Research Institute of Instrument Design. There is also a rear-looking NIIP NO-12 radar and optronic fire-control and surveillance system.

There are also systems for terrain-following and terrain-avoidance, mapping and multichannel employment of guided weapons.

Sector......how many "Game-Boy" controllers come with that?


regards
seekerof

Hah. I knew a new aircraft woudn't be carrying a computer of the power of a 486.

It's total bs. But i still dont see why 2 supercomputers are needed. But i guess over running with flops is better than not getting enugh flops ;P

Sector...you missed some information didn't ya?

"MERCURY COMPUTER SYSTEMS - HIGH PERFORMANCE REAL TIME MULTICOMPUTERS"
Link:
www.airforce-technology.com...

Excerpt:
"PCI systems with up to 64 processors provide real-time multicomputing in desktop, laboratory, and industrial environments, and leverage the many hardware and software products available in the personal computer market
VME systems with up to 128 processors meet the performance and ruggedness demands of defense image and signal processing applications aboard aircraft and naval vessels, and in land installations."


Ok...maybe I was hasty when I said Nintendo Gameboy Advanced....maybe I should have said a Playstation PS2 Advanced.....


regards
seekerof

Seeker,

Shame on you..

Telling this kind of shyte to the Jetsetter..

He might actually belive what your telling him..



I personally dont know what kinds of computer SU-37 has..

But..

they are for sure much more powerful than '486 class'



And also..

Phased array radars are Russian invention..

Remember MiG-31?

Why would a new aircraft have a computer with the power of a 486!
Thats just stupid! The russian spend millions developing this jet then put a 1penny worth 486 in it! LOL
And this when home users can get a P4 for like �200 or less even.

Total Crap! LMAO!

Originally posted by FULCRUM

And also..

Phased array radars are Russian invention..

Remember MiG-31?

Point of Correction:
Phased Array radars on fighter aircraft is a Russian innovation.
Russia started on phased array research for fighters back in 1968, by 1976 they had a working unit in an aircraft, tested tracking with ordinance in 1978 and fielded the radar in the Mig-31 in 1980.

The point I'd like to correct however is that Phased Array radar was actually invented in the Lincoln Laboratory at MIT back in the 1950's.

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