Spider-Man 3: Your Official Information On The Next Spider-Man movie.(SPOILERS)

Originally posted by Umbrax
Ask Bruce Campbell

i don't get it...

Bruce Campbell is a long time friend of Sams’s and has a role in almost all of his films.
Bruce has been the target of Sam’s “abuse” for years.
Tobey Maguire gets it a lot now too. In SM2 there is a scene where he drops his books and gets hit by a bag. Sam hit Toby himself .
Any chance Raimi gets to hit or throw something at his actors, he will

Originally posted by Umbrax
In SM2 there is a scene where he drops his books and gets hit by a bag. Sam hit Toby himself

.
Any chance Raimi gets to hit or throw something at his actors, he will

o0o okay...

i get it now (as i recognized campbell in both movies)...

and i remember that scene in SM2...

i can't believe that sam hit toby

that's so funny...

Originally posted by Umbrax
Knowing Raimi’s sadistical nature I bet he spent a lot of time on Grace forcing him to “hate Parker.”

I can see Topher tied to a chair wearing only Y-fronts and socks while Sam slaps him repeatedly across the face.
"KILL HIM!! KILL HIM!!! HE DISSED YOUR MOMMA!! HE DISSED YOUR POPPA!! HE DISSED YOU!! KILL HIM!!!"

Seriously Grace has said in interviews that he loved playing the baddie and that he started reading Spiderman just as Venom was being introduced and was immedieately in love with him (like we all are) - my words not his!

Yeah Topher is a Venom fan from the beginning when McFarlane was on Amazing Spider-Man. I wonder what that must feel like.

Originally posted by Umbrax
Yeah Topher is a Venom fan from the beginning when McFarlane was on Amazing Spider-Man. I wonder what that must feel like.

Better than sex?



I think so!

spidey 3 will hit IMAX:

www.superherohype.com...

'Spider-Man 3' Cast Confirms Love Triangle, Death, Soul-Sucking Costume...

new look:



sony cut off part of official venom photo?? ...

This may sound stupid but would all the true believers on here who are registered on the official boards (if you aren't register anyway!) vote in my thread. Its a sort of mini petition

Earlier I speculated that the black alien costume would not be an alien but rather something made in a lab (ala Ultimate Spider-Man).
Straight from Sam Raimi’s mouth “Alien goo.”

www.scifi.com

Venom Won Over Spidey 3's Raimi

Raimi added that he was won over once he saw how screenwriter Alvin Sargent made use of the character, not to mention how Grace played him and his human alter ego, Eddie Brock. "Now that I've seen Topher Grace perform and saw what Alvin Sargent did with the script—he created a great character, really filled out Eddie Brock into a very meaningful character—and Tobey [Maguire, who plays Peter Parker/Spider-Man,] has a great energy with him in the few scenes that they play together as competitors, and I really like him now."

Venom is the combination of a black alien goo and Eddie Brock, who is a rival of Peter Parker's both in journalism and for the hand of Mary Jane Watson, played by Kirsten Dunst.

As for the science-fiction nature of the Venom storyline, Raimi said: "There's a lot of fantastic elements about Venom that you could say are in conflict with the realism that we wanted to have in the picture. But we just said to ourselves, 'Kirsten and Tobey, you'll have to do the heavy lifting here to bring it back down to earth, because there's this wild goo from outer space, and you're just going to have to connect us to the characters.

w0w...

that's good news...

but, about what raimi said, i don't think the director of a comic book movie should worry about the "realism" of the movie...

different rules apply because it's from a comic book...

like in "sin city" where a character could get shot 10 times and still live

comic book movies, for me, do not need "realism" as the rules of existence were written in the comic book and not the movie...

Yes but the Spiderman films have been heavily integrated with realism. There is an explanation for something which is clear and precise and easy to follow. It was easy to understand why Ock could use the arms in the Movie whereas in the comics I still ain't to sure. It is because of some kind of telepathic link as often hinted? Or because they are fused ot his spine?

I think also that because comics are so susceptible to being (shudder) retconned, that Raimi wants everything in the movie to be solid, and whole, so that there are few ploy holes or unintentional ambiguities.

This is just what is called "suspension of belief."
This is when a story requires us to believe in the unbelievable. We do this all the time when we read a story, play a videogame, or watch a film.
While Spider-Man is fantastic, the movie allows us to put our thoughst of reality aside and believe that there is a Spider-Man. This is why films take the time to explain origins and motives. We have to “buy” into the movie.

Ever watch a movie and say “Hey that can’t happen!” This is when the film maker fails in causing suspension of belief and you are no longer “in the moment.” Cartoons and movies like Sin City work because of the visual style. Because they don’t look like the real world you don’t expect things to act like the real world. If Sin City looked like any other movie it wouldn’t work. The viewer would be too bothered by ordinary men being shot several times and then fist fight right after. Think of Pulp Fiction, if Vincent Vega got up after getting shot in Butch’s washroom.

Raimi’s concern is that having Venom in the films he set the tone for, would remove viewers from their suspension of belief.
This is why Sam said, “Kirsten and Tobey, you'll have to do the heavy lifting here to bring it back down to earth.”
He is right. The reason that these movies do so well is that while they are fantastic, the actors really sell it. Imagine Magneto not played by Ian McKellen but instead by David Hasselhoff.

w0w great posts you two...

BTW, i just heard church bells and i immediately thought of spider-man 3 :shk:

*gets off this thread*

Originally posted by Umbrax
Imagine Magneto not played by Ian McKellen but instead by David Hasselhoff.

AAARRRGGGHHH!!!!!



But brax is right. Not only is Venom's story unreal, his appearance is absolutely abstract. There is nothing on this planet that looks anything like Venom. Think about the character we have seen. GG was a man enhanced by drugs (basically a man on steroids) who underwent a neural breakdown. Ock was a scientist whose failed experiment welded metal limbs, each with their own AI, onto his nervous system, creating a neural breakdown.
Both of these villains are amazing to watch (Ock's arms are superb. GG may not have been great but when he was gliding he had the classic pose)

Why do you think Sam hasn't used the Lizard yet? The idea of lizard genes imposing themselves onto the human genes and causing a startling mutation is a large breakaway from reality.
Venom's story is even further, however in Venom's case I personally don't think it would matter if it isn't believable so long as Venom is portrayed well (due to his large fanbase anyway). The majority of true believers know enough about Venom to shrug off the story and just watch him.

[edit on 27/7/06 by JackofBlades]

What about sandman, the guy literally dissolves into millions of grains of sand, that some how reassemble back into solid objects. Obviously realism isnt gonna be a major factor in this film

I'mguessing some kind of scientific experiment will change the carbon in his body into silicon or something.

info on stan lee's cameo in SM3...

apparently, him and pete talk on screen:

www.superherohype.com...

movies.yahoo.com

*movies.yahoo.com...,wmv-100-p. 1450806-169392,wmv-300-p.1450807-169392,wmv-700-p.1450808-169392,wmv-28-p.1450805-169392&id=1808496334&f=1808496334&mspid=1809732512&type=m&a=0,15" target="_blank" class="postlink"> "Topher Grace At Comic-Con" -- Actor Topher Grace discusses getting into his costume.
*movies.yahoo.com...,wmv-56-p. 1450810-169393,wmv-100-p.1450811-169393,wmv-300-p.1450812-169393,wmv-28-p.1450810-169393&id=1808496334&f=1808496334&mspid=1809732513&type=m&a=0,15" target="_blank" class="postlink"> "Bryce Dallas Howard At Comic-Con" -- Actor Bryce Dallas Howard explains how the film brought her closer to the comic book.
*movies.yahoo.com...,wmv-100-p. 1450816-169394,wmv-300-p.1450817-169394,wmv-700-p.1450818-169394,wmv-28-p.1450815-169394&id=1808496334&f=1808496334&mspid=1809732514&type=m&a=0,15" target="_blank" class="postlink"> "Thomas Haden Church At Comic-Con" -- Actor Thomas Haden Church explains why he wanted to be involved in the film.
*movies.yahoo.com...,wmv-300-p .1450797-169390,wmv-700-p.1450798-169390,wmv-56-p.1450795-169390,wmv-28-p.1450795-169390&id=1808496334&f=1808496334&mspid=1809732530&type=m&a=0,15" target="_blank" class="postlink"> "Sam Raimi At Comic-Con" -- Director Sam Raimi introduces the cast and discusses the film.
*movies.yahoo.com...,wmv-100-p. 1450801-169391,wmv-300-p.1450802-169391,wmv-700-p.1450803-169391,wmv-28-p.1450800-169391&id=1808496334&f=1808496334&mspid=1809732531&type=m&a=0,15" target="_blank" class="postlink"> "Tobey Maguire At Comic-Con" -- Actor Tobey Maguire discusses some changes with his character, Peter Parker.