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Germany is still one of our true allies.

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posted on Feb, 27 2006 @ 10:40 AM

WASHINGTON, Feb. 26 — Two German intelligence agents in Baghdad obtained a copy of Saddam Hussein's plan to defend the Iraqi capital, which a German official passed on to American commanders a month before the invasion, according to a classified study by the United States military.

In providing the Iraqi document, German intelligence officials offered more significant assistance to the United States than their government has publicly acknowledged. The plan gave the American military an extraordinary window into Iraq's top-level deliberations, including where and how Mr. Hussein planned to deploy his most loyal troops.

The German role is not the only instance in which nations that publicly cautioned against the war privately facilitated it. Egypt and Saudi Arabia, for example, provided more help than they have disclosed. Egypt gave access for refueling planes, while Saudi Arabia allowed American special operations forces to initiate attacks from its territory, United States military officials say.

But the German government was an especially vociferous critic of the Bush administration's decision to use military force to topple Mr. Hussein. While the German government has said that it had intelligence agents in Baghdad during the war, it has insisted it provided only limited help to the United States-led coalition.

Germany publicly claims they oppose the war, however in the black world, they helped the U.S. even if its a small support. We have our differences, but Germany has been a good standing ally for America. The only reason the German govt. has to oppose the war is because of the German public thats all.

posted on Feb, 27 2006 @ 10:54 AM
Furthermore,. I have heard good things about the new chancellor.

You know, I find it disturbing that the people seem to be against us in such a manner.
Maybe it was all those years of soldiers not behaving their best while in a host nation? Maybe Fritz is still angry about losing Claudia to Joe?
Are we really that different as peoples?

posted on Feb, 27 2006 @ 12:33 PM

Originally posted by deltaboy

The only reason the German govt. has to oppose the war is because of the German public thats all.

And that's the way it should be. The government should not do anything or support any war if its people do not.

The only exception might be if the government has sensitive information regarding a situation which, if known to the public, would change the public's opinion. Of course, the government shouldn't hold out any information, so, in my opinion, there are no exceptions.

posted on Feb, 27 2006 @ 12:35 PM
In 1995 I was on a joint exercise here in the UK with German and US troops.
The UK provided infantry (To play both good and bad sides), the Germans armour (Both heavy and light) and the US provided helicopters along with a few gazelles from the army air corp for the umpires to raom about in.

I have to say the Germans were great troops, the exercise went real smooth, and on the last week we all got to the range to try out each others weapons. The German army at the time issued Uzi's to its armoured corp (There real cool weapons at short range!) and we got to have a great play on the 25 m ranges. These exercises are worth their weight in gold, as alot of contacts were made that transcended national orders and pride. I for one go to austria alot to meet up with some of the troops i met in 95 - some are now police officers, some still serving.

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