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reply posted on 26-2-2006 @ 05:53 AM by Merger
I watched an interesting documentory not long ago, which gives an explanation as to why 911 happened.

Some points made:

Oil needed to be transferred from th 'stans' (can't remember the exact country names) but it needed to be transferred between the 'stans' through afganistan and down through the south. The taliban leaders were sent to the USA to discuss the construction of an oil pipeline through afganistan to the south. The taliban pulled out of the plan, and thus the invasion of afganistan to remove the Taliban.

Not only now is the pipeline able to be built, but since the removal of the taliban, the poppee fields are now in major production, to make opium for drugs such as heroin. Heroin and Cocaine is a 600 billion dollar industry that is pumped into the US Stock exchange. The reason why the stock exchange is used, is because when you go to a bank, and wish to deposit a large sum of money, the banks have to fill out a report just in case the money is drug money for investigation.

Now if your company is listed on the Stock exchange, there is no need to fill out the report as large sums of money have to travel through the system, and thus reporting will clog up the system.

So now you have companies on the stock exchange, money being laundered through the exchange, and thus the illegal exchange of monies through the stock exchange.

This has lifted the economy of the USA. The CIA (Cocaine Import Agency) is the body behind the drug importation and money laundering in the USA.

Now the reason Iraq was invaded were for many reasons. The main one of course, is for Oil. Not because the world is being depleted of oil, because the USA and western countries wish to take the power away from the rest of the world, removing their oil, means removing their power. The USA have heaps of oil to last hundreds of years, stocked away in secret locations. This is a conspiracy on its own.

So the Weapons of Mass Destruction excuse is a lie, WMD is otherwise known as With Mass Deception.

The other reason Iraq was invaded was that there is knowledge that there is a Stargate underneath Bahgdad, and also powerful artifacts from Babylon and Sumeria, which is regarded as high symbolism within the occult, such as freemasonry and the illuminati.

Now September 11 was the next step in dominating the world. Creating fear in the public to hate muslims and to find an excuse to force war. What has resulted in the attacks? Loss of freedom! ID cards are now being implemented, and soon id chips, phone tapping increasing and email monitoring on the rise. People are made to believe their security is comprimised so they give away their freedom for a false sense of security.

I recall September 11 about 10 years ago, the president of the USA said that the world is heading towards a 'New World Order'. Hrmmm coincidence - September 11 eh! 1 in 365 chance of that happening.

Also Russian and German officials warned the USA of upcoming attacks on targets such as the white house, pentagon and world trade centre due to intercepted communications. Bush said he had no warning! Well done CLIA (ahem - Centrel Lack of Intelligence Agency)

A canadian was arrested - he was a spy for the west. He 'had' to have criminal records so he would be trusted by the so called enemy. He had written countless letters to the USA saying there was a supposed attack on the USA on the week of September 9. He was arrested and jailed for 'credit card fraud'. He made statements that documents in his possession (that were kept in lockers) whilst in jail will prove the week of September 9 there will be an attack on the USA. He said that when the attacks occur, to check his documents to prove what he was saying is right. Never heard from him again.

The stories go on and on.....

Kind Regards
Merger


reply posted on 26-2-2006 @ 08:36 PM by Shugo
David Icke...bleh...I could go on forever about the bugger. Do you look for opposing evidence?

If you want to do therough research, you need to lookup information on not just YOUR end of the spectrum, but both sides. It appears you don't do much of that.

Now, while you're sitting there suggesting we look into David Icke, I suggest you look into him youeself on this forum, go do a boolean, and see what you'll find, you'll find the following keywords on almost all of it: Hoax, Liar, Fluke, Halucination, and Quack.

While I don't think EVERYTHING about 9/11 was acurate, I would never take what those two have to say seriously, ever. Why? They're just what the search brings up.

Now, lets go to the goat, are you saying everytime I pass a field here in Iowa, or someone in the mountains sees a mountain goat, that automatically means masons are nearby? My uncle was a mason, it doesn't always imply "NWO", he was a great man, fun person to be around, he never shoved beliefs on other people.

But, I'm sure you don't care. So, lets review.



    You've accumulated another post, with nothing but words, and quack sources and persons.
    You've demanded that you are right, and no one else is right, unless they agree with you.
    You've concluded for everyone that the government never tells the truth.
    You've indicated that I'm drinking milk, and watching malicious and evil creatures, known as "Goats".
    You've implied that all masons are evil, and are workships of the government.
    I have come to the conclusion by this post, that the NWO is actually filled with paranoid people such as yourself.
    I have also concluded that the NWO stands for Negative Women Odors.
    You will imply after you read this that I'm a non-believer, and that I will see in time, thus you will be just like John Titor, who was also a crack pot.
    You've successfully made me believe that you are a hoax igniter sent by an internet agency.


This concludes my sermon.



reply posted on 27-2-2006 @ 08:59 PM by mcgillicuddy
These guys both present interesting theories & the research they have done is equally compelling and intriguing, but do not ever quote them as a credible source..... For all we know, they could be disinformation agents for the CIA & MI-5 respectively---- what is very evident is that they are both in the conspiracy business to make a buck... I heard that Icke had a public meltdown recently due to nobody contributing to his website monetarily--- I don't know if this is truth or just hearsay, but if you go to www.infowars.com you can see that Jones has some entrepreneurial endeavors fo' shizzle----
On the other hand, Dylan Avery seems a bit more credible & maybe the original poster of this strand should check out his documentaries: Loose Change 1 & 2 in pertaining to the 9/11 conspiracy

The reptilian stuff that Icke goes on about is pretty nuts, even if I believe in things that are pretty far fetched a lot of the time. And I saw the 9/11 documentery that Jones did, and it was super interesting, but then he lost me with the conclusion of it all being that the main plan for the powers that be (the Order of Death) was to make Arnold the super fuehrer in order to usher in the New World Order.... Maybe I'm the one that's the idiot, but I just picture Kintergarden Cop and can't make the jump.

One thing I'll give Icke credit for is the tying together of bloodlines, seats of power, (from Babylon, to Rome, to London, to Washington) and the inter-connectedness of everything. Ley lines, divide and conquer, order through chaos, and other pertinent conspiratorial ideas are well documented and his research seems pretty well laid out and referenced. I believe that many people that throw Icke under the bus never read one of his books cover-to-cover. Maybe they have, and the only book that I read by him was interesting and the rest just seem like psyco babble. This guy is really easy to write off as a lunatic, so when you quote him as a credible source, you unfortuatley group yourself in that category.

Anyways, I guess when you post in this category, you shouldn't be so ambiguous and abstract. Do you see some of the other strands in here?

Notice that most are inteselsy in depth and comprehensive about technical & scientific theories that debunk the official theory. I don't mean to be confrontational--- just constuctive stuff only
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