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Two Eyewitnesses Point To ING and American Forces In Mosque Blast

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posted on Feb, 24 2006 @ 05:36 PM
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Originally posted by ArchAngel
I would hope that, if this thread is closed, the conspiracy discussion and these witnessess words could move to another thread about the Mosque bombings.

Maybe the ATSNN one?


They are already there. Souljah posted them this morning. But this information should be available without trekking through 8 pages of another thread, in my opinion. It's important.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Just voicing my disagreement that this particular thread should be closed when other inflammatory (and non-conspiracy) threads are currently in the WoT forum.

These are inflammatory times.
This is an eyewitness.




posted on Feb, 24 2006 @ 05:36 PM
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OK, before we go any further can someone tell me what the purpose of this mosque was? What happened there on a daily basis?



posted on Feb, 24 2006 @ 05:39 PM
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If it was an obvious specialist job, then it couldn't have been us...
we are far better false flaggers than that...

we would have just hired thugs to fly planes into it...


(sorry... just had to say it)



posted on Feb, 24 2006 @ 05:42 PM
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I will be more than happy to keep this thread open if it does in facat discuss the opening post.
So far, little of that discussion has happened.

It's really up to whoever posts here. And the prupose is not to debate closing this thread :shk:
Back on topic, please.



posted on Feb, 24 2006 @ 05:45 PM
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Originally posted by intrepid
OK, before we go any further can someone tell me what the purpose of this mosque was? What happened there on a daily basis?


Waiting Arch Angel, I would like a response to this.



posted on Feb, 24 2006 @ 05:53 PM
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Originally posted by intrepid
OK, before we go any further can someone tell me what the purpose of this mosque was? What happened there on a daily basis?



Before it was bombed I could tell you nothing about it.

www.al-islam.org...

www.victorynewsmagazine.com...


[edit on 24-2-2006 by ArchAngel]



posted on Feb, 24 2006 @ 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by ArchAngel
Before it was bombed I could tell you nothing about it, but since I have looked around a bit.


That tells me a lot. Google works for you, doesn't it? It was bombed many more times, if you read your own links.


So, would you say that this institution was available to the people on a regular basis?



posted on Feb, 24 2006 @ 06:02 PM
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Originally posted by ArchAngel
Now the Iraqi Minister of Construction has stated that it was a job done by specialists.

Shiite Iraqi National Guard working side by side with American forces?



How does it help us ? Why occupy a country that is in civil war? would it not be easier to occupy/control a peaceful subdued state?

The job was done by specialists? Just because they're terrorists does not mean they don't have specialists.Especially as we don't know where they're help is coming from.

Believe me this is a bad time for the coalition and not somthing we would have caused.

[edit on 24/2/2006 by kuhl]

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[edit on 24-2-2006 by DontTreadOnMe]



posted on Feb, 24 2006 @ 06:16 PM
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Well, Google isn't working for me!
It's cloudy and my connection is awful! I hope to get some of this out before it gives up altogether.

ING Implicated



In addition to apparently facilitating the mosque bombing, Iraqi National Guard troops provided assistance to "more than a dozen masked Shia gunmen" attacking the Sunni al-Quds mosque in western Baghdad in the wake of the Samarra attack, according to the Times Online. In addition, "gunmen arrived [at the Maakel prison in Basra] in a fleet of cars and showed documents which claimed that they were from the Interior Ministry… and lynched at least eleven Sunni inmates, among them at least two Egyptians."

Last month, according to the Washington Post, the Iraqi Interior Ministry was implicated in the operation of death squads targeting Sunnis. Moreover, according to John Pike, an expert on classified military budgets, as cited by Robert Dreyfuss in an article for the American Prospect, a 2004 Iraqi appropriation bill contained $3 billion for paramilitary units. The "bulk of the covert money" went to "support U.S. efforts to create a lethal, and revenge-minded, Iraqi security force" and also "an Iraqi secret police staffed mainly by gunmen associated with members of the puppet Iraqi Governing Council," thus revealing the situation in Iraq is not precisely as the hand-fed corporate media would have us believe.
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Of course, two eye witnesses should not be considered conclusive evidence the Pentagon puppet Iraqi National Guard is behind the mosque bombings in Samarra. However, when added to the wealth of evidence from various sources detailing the existence of a Anglo-American "counterinsurgency" program in Iraq (including the now largely forgotten and never referenced by the corporate media story of two British covert operatives caught red-handed in terrorist behavior last September) the incident should at least stir a modicum of suspicion.


Links to Times Online and Washington Post contained in article.

More after this storm.



posted on Feb, 24 2006 @ 06:21 PM
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posted on Feb, 24 2006 @ 06:34 PM
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OK, before we go any further can someone tell me what the purpose of this mosque was? What happened there on a daily basis?


It was one of the holiest sites in Shia Islam, this is it's significance. This was simply not an arbritrary mosque that was bombed, and it was obviously carefully carried out and planned. The bombing of this mosque was not to deal physical damage, but pyschological; to some, tatamount to that of 9/11.

Luxifero



posted on Feb, 24 2006 @ 07:03 PM
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One more try...

Who Bombed the Shrines?





Take a good look at the picture above because I will tell you what I see.

I see a damaged dome caused by an explosion set very professionally that the two minarets from the both sides weren’t effected by the explosion.
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Now, let’s talk about the death of the three Iraqi journalists.
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Notice, they found the TV-team’s bodies later but didn’t found the documentary she made,
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The answer is simple, Attwar killed because she knew "too much".
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By the way today the so called Al-Qaeda in Iraq condemned the bombing, Baath party condemned the bombing and many fractions of Iraqi resistance condemned it also.


This picture is a lot bigger than screaming "The US did it"! because I don't approve of the current administration. This isn't about pointing the finger and assigning blame regardless - because of an agenda. This isn't about sensationalism (although it is fairly sensational).

It's about finding out who really did it.

There's a history of ING and American and British involvement in events that they shouldna been involved in. It's not so far out to suspect coalition involvement, especially when we look at the whole picture.



posted on Feb, 24 2006 @ 07:06 PM
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Originally posted by Nakash
My source says the tooth fairy did it. She waved the wand to create a few tooth imps and they planted the bombs in the mosque. Well, sounds as plausible as Archangel's story


Problem - Reaction - Solution


Shrine attack deals blow to anti-US unity


It all just makes it easier for America to occupy.

Without unity while attacking eachother they don't stand a chance of kicking out the occupiers.

For those who want to stay in Iraq as long as there is oil its the best thing that could happen.



posted on Feb, 24 2006 @ 07:28 PM
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I can only guess here that is some very intense group that wants the instability of Iraq and the final confrontation of Shiites and Sunnis.

The attack was very clean actually in and out.

Does anybody knows if it was a suicide bomber in that?

Because suicided bombers only works for their cause and their cause is Allah.

So it makes no sense to bomb a holy site for them.



posted on Feb, 24 2006 @ 08:10 PM
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My source says the tooth fairy did it. She waved the wand to create a few tooth imps and they planted the bombs in the mosque. Well, sounds as plausible as Archangel's story


Nakash seems to be openly anti-islamic regardless of fault, intent, or even innocence.

Luxifero

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[edit on 24-2-2006 by DontTreadOnMe]



posted on Feb, 24 2006 @ 08:57 PM
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Gee "Luxifero" I'm not going to buy this story of an inside job by the evil Zionists or Americans, so if that's the staple the Islamic world has to offer too bad- they deserve my negativity. When you start respecting other people instead of spinning yarns placing the blame on others to disguise a clear example of Islamic intolerance, we can talk. Think about it- if Americans did this (and not some fanatic Sunni), why would Shiites slaughter about 100 people in Iraq today (70 of them being Sunni Imams)? Even Sadr who some 6 months ago used to blame America for all the explosions is now convinced the Sunnis did this, and is out to loot a few Mosques.

ps: Are you Muslim? Much of what I see Muslims saying here and on other places is EXTREMELY offensive to non-muslims, yet they don't think twice about it. Maybe I'm not noticing something which is "unislamic" in your opinion.



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[edit on 24-2-2006 by Nakash]



posted on Feb, 24 2006 @ 09:35 PM
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My therory is that somone with a hidden agenda is responsible for this happning. Of course this dosent say much because this is pretty much already said.


Originally posted by ArchAngel

Baghdad Dweller
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The Mosque Guards testimony says: Four people with ING uniforms blind folded them and set the bombs.

The witness continues, so ask I you how could the terrorists enter the area which is usually surrounded by the ING and enter the mosque then runway without being got by the police?
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Why would US/UK do this in uniform? Thats just stupid. Maby they were framed or the witness are giving false info.

Im guessing Iran is behind this because they would want Iraq to go to civil war.

I also suspect the US/UK/counterinsurgency but I cant come up with any reasons as to why? Can anyone here do so?

But..


Let's see now........with the US included in having proof that we blew up that dome we can now add them to the list of other parties where their is proof that they blew up the dome.....

Such as......

Jews
Iranians
Russias
Sunnis
Shiites

have I missed anyone yet??

Looks like we'll never know what happened


well said.

[edit on 24-2-2006 by Tasketo]



posted on Feb, 24 2006 @ 09:45 PM
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How about Iran? Iran hates Sunni Islam and want's to use the Shiites as a proxy against the U.S., so they can take over later. I find it suspicious that a few hours after the Attack Iran's president was already blaming Zionists. What would the U.S. have to gain out of this? More paranoia (and thus civil war), the risk of getting caught and having their asses creamed?

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posted on Feb, 24 2006 @ 10:01 PM
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Originally posted by ArchAngel

Originally posted by sensfan
I fail to see why this thread should be closed. It's a serious topic on a consipiracy board. Not a joke either, so I find the jokes appalling.



I would hope that, if this thread is closed, the conspiracy discussion and these witnessess words could move to another thread about the Mosque bombings.

Maybe the ATSNN one?


Classic Islamo-switch. The witness were the bombers..........

Not even hollywood coke-heads could write this trash............



posted on Feb, 24 2006 @ 10:51 PM
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My own sources say that "someone who resembled Mohammed did it"....I'd draw you an artists' composite of the suspect but that could simply open up yet another can of worms.







 
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