I am stating that the NWO as you call it is in action, but will not last more than a few more generations at the rate the US and the world are progressing. In time, old money will mean nothing. There is no middle class anymore, and has not been for years. You are on welfare, live paycheck to paycheck, or you are filthy rich That is about it.

esdad, every time you mention something it's hard for me to state my opinion because I can not debunk you, I cant do anithing because you do not give a source for research, you do not give links, articles,etc.
90% of your post does not contain any articles, links, pictures, etc.
It's just like me saying "I know an island with people that live inside of a volcano in to the lava"
But no one is going to take me serios because I dont present anithing but my words.
If you want to act as propaganda u'r not doing a greate job.
You just dissmis everything with "what if he felt and triped" with out anithing to back it up.
When something captures my atention and I want to talk to some one I show him the news paper.

And about this

Hey, truthseeka, I am still waiting on that evidence that explosives were involved in the WTC. Since you are so adamant that your view is correct, and since you started the thread, it is time for you to PROVE it or move on.

how do you explain aluminium powder and concrete powder covering the whole area?
We all know this can only be obtained by high explosives.
Remember at the time of impact of the planes it wasent present.
Only when the colapse got under way the powder coverd the area like snow.
This indicates high explosives, fire can not create that.
Experiment put a concrete brick on fire and live it there see what hapens.
I dont think it will turn in to powder, also the presence of powder coming from metals is and indication of high explosives.
Remeber the amount of it, the whole area was coverd in it.


[edit on 24-3-2006 by pepsi78]

everytime I post it is not speculative. You wouldn't follow the link if I gave it anyways, so why even post what you did?

Originally posted by esdad71
everytime I post it is not speculative. You wouldn't follow the link if I gave it anyways, so why even post what you did?

Of course I did, I put up pictures and I gave a credible source.

Let's start with post by post.
let's start for example with osamma.

1 evidence for osama being sick.
2 evidence for him wearing a ring (pictures).
3 evidence of osama writing with other hand.
You got any article on that?so we can desmiss them all?
I would be happy to dissmiss them all but I cant see how.
So i'm going to think that the film with bin laden is fake.

So got any evidence that indicates it's real besides u'r word?

next....
You still didint answer me how did the FBI come to the conclusion that those were the high jackers.

You said you debunked it all, I dont see how since you didint bring anithing clear up.



[edit on 24-3-2006 by pepsi78]

well, that's all well and good, thatjustwierd, but....

tower seven. symmetry. timing. period.

anything else is just a distraction.

'tower seven' will be the rallying cry of the revolution. well, probably the rallying really loud whisper for now, lol.

What are you talking about?

So, YOU have a crystal ball? You just know everything that I'm going to say, eh? Well, what's the next 2 words I am going to type...baby food. I bet you knew that, though, right?

First, why would you ask "who are the elites," then post links to some of them? Like I said, you were baiting me, but in a stupid way IMO. And, where did I say anything about Charlie Sheen in this thread? Him saying something is not a smoking gun per se, but it sure is great!

Alex Jones did a HUGE thing by interviewing Sheen, and Sheen coming out and saying his thoughts was even bigger. In fact, it's so big, the mainstream media eventually had to talk about it. CNN covered the Sheen interview, and they even talked to Alex, who started dropping hammers on the official story on national TV. It was great! But, of course, they brought some "objective" people on to talk about the outlandish conspiracy theories. I didn't catch that, but I am looking for the rebuttal.

Anyway, enough of that.

What do you mean no credible evidence? I watched, on NATIONAL TV, bldg 7 fall with NO PLANE HITTING IT!



Are you high? Is that not enough evidence that bldg 7 fell with no plane impact? For one, bldg 7 brings the ENTIRE official story into question, and 2, NIST says that the twins did NOT fall due to the airplane impacts. I even posted NIST saying it, but I guess that's not credible evidence that the planes did not cause the collapse.

As for reptilians, please. I was referring to their questionable human nature. These people are brutal psychopaths who see the average Joe as nothing. They don't act like normal human beings sometimes. THIS is what I meant, not some David Icke theory.

So, you know about Brzezenski, but you don't know about him calling for a helpful terror attack against the US. Yawn. I guess you don't know what The Grand Chessboard is. Ok, let's see some quotes from it...

From The Grand Chessboard, by Zbigniew Brzezenski

"Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multi-cultural society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstance of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat." (p. 211)

"The attitude of the American public toward the external projection of American power has been much more ambivalent. The public supported America's engagement in World War II largely because of the shock effect of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. (pp 24-5)

"It is also a fact that America is too democratic at home to be autocratic abroad. This limits the use of America's power, especially its capacity for military intimidation. Never before has a populist democracy attained international supremacy. But the pursuit of power is not a goal that commands popular passion, except in conditions of a sudden threat or challenge to the public's sense of domestic well-being. The economic self-denial (that is, defense spending) and the human sacrifice (casualties, even among professional soldiers) required in the effort are uncongenial to democratic instincts. Democracy is inimical to imperial mobilization." (p.35)

But, I'm sure you knew I was going to post that. BTW, this book was published in 1997.

As for Pearl Harbor, the "bootleg intelligence" that you refer to knew the Japanese were going to attack 6-12 months before they did, depending on who you ask. But, I guess the public didn't get behind the war after the attack...

Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird

And, where did I say anything about Charlie Sheen in this thread? Him saying something is not a smoking gun per se, but it sure is great!

How is it great?

Because CNN covered it.

You (as well as everyone else) only saw the north side of the building. The side that was facing away from the collapse. You have no idea how damaged the south side was.
Do you honestly think building 7 escaped unscathed with two of some of the largest buildings in the world collapsing right next to it?

But here's the problem:

It fell symmetrically. It fell very rapidly (roof to ground). And it fell straight down upon its footprint, with the outer walls falling inwards. The center of the building even creased downwards.

That is EXACTLY what happens in a controlled demolition. Nothing like that has *ever* resulted from anything else but controlled demolition. Do you understand this? If you do, hold on to it and keep it in mind. It's a pretty big clue no matter how much you provoke and abuse posters on an internet thread. No amount of sarcasm will change what actually happened in NYC, which is what you should be focused on unless you're arrogant enough to believe that you can't be wrong on this one and therefore don't even seriously consider what you're debating.

The odds against WTC7 falling as it did naturally are astronomical. Think about it. No steel beams offsetting the fall and causing a lean or anything. Even a single beam's resistance can offset a building's fall in a demolition if it isn't blown out. But this collapse was supposed to be natural? And if the damage was to the back side of it from the falling towers, you would at least expect WTC7 to fall backwards towards the missing columns if it had to fall at all.