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Chavez tells Rice: 'Don't mess with me, Girl!'

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posted on Feb, 20 2006 @ 07:33 AM
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Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez on Sunday warned U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice not to "mess with" him days after Rice described Venezuela as a menace to regional democracy.

"Don't mess with me, Condoleezza. Don't mess with me, girl," Chavez said during his weekly Sunday broadcast, sarcastically offering her a kiss and jokingly referring to her as "Condolence."

The warning comes days after Rice described Venezuela as one of the "biggest problems" for the Western Hemisphere and promised to develop regional alliances as part of an "inoculation" strategy to expose what the State Department calls anti-democratic behavior in Venezuela.

Apparently Venezuela is one of the Biggest Problems in the Western Hemisphere - for the Bush Administration that is. Looks like the Fact that Venezuela is the 5th Largest World Oil Producer, that is NOT in Excellent relations with the US goverment means a threat to National Security.

That is called the ANTI-Democratic Behaviour if you did not know.

So, why would he do Business with the same people that wanted to Assassinate him for Real - and have also Threatened him in a Live TV performance by mister Pat Robertson:

"You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it!"

And I Bet he is not the ONLY one who shares that Opinion...




posted on Feb, 20 2006 @ 08:30 AM
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ANTI-Democratic behavior?
So, if someone is democratically elected, they are good? They mean nothing but the best for the world?
So, the Islamic Resistance Movement is now something more than a murderous terrorist organization? Hitler deserves an apology, maybe?
Don't get caught up in "their" BS.

Back to Chavez...that is HILARIOUS!


"Don't mess with me, Condoleezza. Don't mess with me, girl"

That is excellent! The guy has a sense of humor!

Last I checked, Souljah, the guy is busy trying to destablize the region, wants to spread his left-wing ideology at the end of a gun by supporting lovely groups who do lovely things like lob arty rounds through churches on Sunday morning (FARC). Sound "democratic" to you?

I haven't heard a thing about any of this lately. I'd suggest the administration remind the American public what this guy does before they bother spending money on any efforts against him.

By the way, get over Robertson. He is a TV evangelist, nothing more. Don't try and make something out of nothing.



posted on Feb, 20 2006 @ 09:06 AM
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Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
So, if someone is democratically elected, they are good? They mean nothing but the best for the world?

Ofcourse not - if you take a Look at current US Goverment, which was elected with Non-Fraudelent Democratic Elections - then your statement is Correct. Do the Bush administration want Nothing but the Best for the World or do they want Nothing but the BEST for THEMSELVES?



Last I checked, Souljah, the guy is busy trying to destablize the region, wants to spread his left-wing ideology at the end of a gun by supporting lovely groups who do lovely things like lob arty rounds through churches on Sunday morning (FARC). Sound "democratic" to you?

Now there are some ANTI-Democratic Headlines for you concerning Venezula-USA relations:


The Petro-Dollar and the EURO

More developing countries follow the lead of Venezuela and China in diversifying their currency reserves away from dollars and balanced with euros. Such a shift in dollar-euro holdings in Latin America and Asia could keep the dollar and euro close to parity.


The final stroke will come this year when Venezuela’s President Hugo Chavez Frias switches to the Petro-Euro

The Bush administration makes its own laws and anyone who disagrees with them is a terrorist. Thus, regime change has been ordered by George and the neocons.

Now that Venezuela has signed bilateral oil agreements with Iran, Russia and China, Jorge Bush is seeing red. George takes these sovereign acts as a declaration of war – of open terrorism, as being sufficient evidence to include Venezuela in the coming holocaust of the “axis of evil.”

The final stroke will come this year when President Chavez switches to the Petro-Euro, or creates a Latin American currency. In as much as the US is preparing Colombia to invade Venezuela, the faster Mr. Chavez acts the better.

More?
U.S. Policy Toward Venezuela: Playing With Oil, Playing With Trade, Playing With Fire
US Pentagon contingency planning for military conflict with Venezuela
Senior US government officials closely tied to failed 2002 Venezuelan coup

So, the Message is CLEAR -
TO ALL COUNTIRES WITH OIL RESERVES:
If you Convert your trade from Petro-Dollar to Petro-Euro, you WILL be against USA and with the Terrorists, with the Rouge Nations. You will be the target, just like Saddam was, when he did the same, and just like Iran in the forthcoming March 2006.

That's what this is all about.

That is the definition of current US Administrations use of words ANTI-Democratic...



By the way, get over Robertson. He is a TV evangelist, nothing more. Don't try and make something out of nothing.

So when an Islamic Religious Extremists says something to Threaten the West, that is Terrorism - but when an Christian Religious Extremist does the same, then its Nothing? The guy Threatened the president of Another Country - that puts him in the same League as the extremists yelling "Death to Isreal!".

[edit on 20/2/06 by Souljah]



posted on Feb, 20 2006 @ 09:21 AM
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Haven't seen Pat Robertson strapping on the vest by DuPont, and walking into a pizzaria. He's a non-issue. He's been saying this sort of stuff since before I was born, and that's a few decades ago now.

The next few years will certainly be interesting ones, in relation to Chavez, and the United States. I would hope that it is merely a tempest in a teapot.

Chavez really shouldn't call Ms. Rice out, he might not like the results. She's one tough cookie.



posted on Feb, 20 2006 @ 09:35 AM
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Souljah, you seem to have totally ignored what I said about Chavez and his intentions for the region.
I think you know I do not trust the administration. I didn't trust the last two, I don't trsut this one and, I probably won't trust the next one.
There is no doubt in my mind the petro-dollar is an important thing, and "they" would be willing to do things that are wrong. Still, this does not negate Chavez' wrong-doing.
Still, this doesn't make him less funny!



posted on Feb, 20 2006 @ 09:39 AM
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Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, someone at one point i admired for his stand against American imperialism, but look at his recent dealings.

Accusing American Christians of being spies....come on, the guy accused Christians of trying to convert his country and make them Pro-American...his paranoia is worrying. There is an interesting article about Chavez goal of a "mini-USSR" in South America.

[edit on 20-2-2006 by infinite]



posted on Feb, 20 2006 @ 09:46 AM
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You hit the nail on the head, Infinite.

The enemy of your enemy can also be your enemy. That is the trouble with him.



posted on Feb, 20 2006 @ 09:53 AM
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Chavez's thinking works like this...

If your American, your an enemy to him. Even if you dont support US Government, your a spy to him. Lets say your an American tourist..your a spy to him, working for the CIA.

There is a growing left wing movement in South America, i would not be suprised if there is an Union of South America within 10 years. I dont know if he is trying to push America in to some sort of war, but the guy is clearly paranoid of the North and is making the whol region paranoid.

..heaven knows why.



posted on Feb, 20 2006 @ 09:58 AM
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Christian missionaries have been used as spies by the USA for decades. It's alot easier if if the country they are trying to undermine is left-wing. Promoting the "American way" by these means is easier if the government can be portrayed as ungodly athiest.

It happens in Cuba and it happen in the old USSR.

Why should it sound so implausible to you Infinite ?

The USA isn't a democracy it's a Republic with a few democratic institutions. The USA has a long history of undermining democratically elected governments in other countries.

But the USA don't want open warfare and Chavez has the oil.

Speaking of which. TC did you get any of that cheap heating fuel that that ungodly athiest monster who is destabilizing the region gave to the poor masses that must choose whether to heat or eat in that shining utopia that is the U-S-A [DOES GRUNTING OLYMPIAN CHANT U-S-A

Trouble is everyone who leads a country has so much crap on them that none of them are worth the time to complete this...............................



posted on Feb, 20 2006 @ 10:04 AM
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Why the US don't like Hugo:
  • He has been an influential member in the OPEC oil cartel of oil producing nations;

  • He has criticized the US’s bombing of Afghanistan in retaliation for the September 11 attacks;

  • He has stopped the Venezuelan military taking part in naval exercises in the Caribbean;

  • The US military has been denied access to Venezuelan airspace, hampering Washington’s war in Colombia;

  • He has been friendly to Cuba’s Fidel Castro;

  • He has tried to implement economic policies that are not always in line with the Washington Consensus/Neoliberalism ideology;

  • And, Venezuela is also home to the largest currently known oil reserves in the world outside the Middle East.

That is the the Rest of the ANTI-Democratic definition used by Bush administration regarding Venezuela and president Chavez.

As far as Mister Chavez's Paranoia of foreign Spies and attempts of Coups and Assassinations is concrned -
Venezuelan Military Intelligence says overwhelming evidence the CIA planned to bring down Chavez Frias' airplane
Venezuela Asks U.S. to Stop Funding Opposition and Coup Supporters
The Nature of CIA Intervention in Venezuela


US Revealed to be Secretly Funding Opponents of Chavez

“This repeats a pattern started in Nicaragua in the election of 1990 when [the US] spent $20 per voter to get rid of [the Sandinista President Daniel] Ortega. It’s done in the name of democracy but it’s rather hypocritical. Venezuela does have a democratically elected President who won the popular vote which is not the case with the US.

Apparently it is DEMOCRATIC to further try to Remove ANY other Non-Friendly Democratic Regimes - if it is done under the Banner of the US Flag.



posted on Feb, 20 2006 @ 10:08 AM
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Don't forget funding the contra rebels which killed ppl in Nicaragua.



posted on Feb, 20 2006 @ 10:21 AM
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And, don't forget why there were Contra Rebels, huh?



posted on Feb, 20 2006 @ 10:25 AM
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Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
And, don't forget why there were Contra Rebels, huh?


*Puts up hand*

I know the answer to that one. Is it because the U-S-A sold illegal weaponry to Iran and had lots of "black money" left over ????



posted on Feb, 20 2006 @ 10:31 AM
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Yeah, John. Whatever. Keep on reading the Red propaganda handbook.



posted on Feb, 20 2006 @ 10:33 AM
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In any case, if Chavez continues to be paranoid against the world, and even against his own people, it could spark a crisis in Venezuela. The 2002 massive protests which Chavez manage to successful put down along with the attempted coup shows that the people does not have much patience.



posted on Feb, 20 2006 @ 10:34 AM
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JB, what kind of total crap is that about Chavez' propaganda with the cheap heating oil? I really see why you are buying into that Red propaganda crap; you are enjoying the Carnival season just a wee bit too much. Back off the refreshments!



posted on Feb, 20 2006 @ 10:49 AM
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There was some talk back when the USSR fell about where American politics would go.

But never fear. McCarthyism is alive and well. They'll always be Reds under the Bed.

If not there will always be just a slight shade of pink for redblooded Americans like TC to get their teeth into.

Why do so many people hate the USA ??

Because they can't stand anyone who doesn't crawl to them. They can't stand anyone who disagrees with them.

They will alwys have enemies because they will always create them.

God forbid that South America should look after South Americans instead of the business interests of North Americans.

Where would we be ? *sarcasm*

[edit on 20-2-2006 by John bull 1]



posted on Feb, 20 2006 @ 11:37 AM
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Yea, God forbid that the Venezuelan gov't cares more about its own people rather than US economic interests. Maybe the cheap oil to New England was a PR ploy, but it was still a positive move. Most actions any gov't makes (the official ones anyway) have ulterior PR motives.

From my understanding, souljah and JB are hitting the nail on the head.



posted on Feb, 20 2006 @ 12:19 PM
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The cheap oil was a great big poke in the eye to Bush and his oil buddies.
However, the other big US oil companies were also asked to show some compassion and spend some of their record profits to help their poorer countrymen, women and children. None of them offered a cent!
Shows just how much the corporations care about the consumers, or people in general.



posted on Feb, 20 2006 @ 01:31 PM
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Sometimes I see Chavez as fighting the good fight...and I mos def support his support for Cuba. What we have done to Cuba is exactly what is wrong with having a one world governing body including the UN. One large nation has sat on Cuba's neck for decades. Denying them access to developments in medicine and technology. Effectively starving their population so they can say "look socialism bad!!" The UN charter talks about the right of self determination of all people but that is a load of crap. Cuba's sovereignty is under attack by one permanent member state that can bring their veto hammer down on any resolution that attempts to open up free exchange of ideas and goods with Cuba. Unless Cuba yields to the US and give up its right to self determination they will always be the backwoods island of the world. Now that's fascism...much worst than any red scare.

But I did say "sometimes I see Chavez as fighting the good fight"---others---not so much. He can't pretend to be a democracy and still use force to put down dissent in his country. He is wildly popular with the poor so it is the rich folk and the upper middle class that were getting paid in a major way due to the dirty dealings with the US that kept most of their country in extreme poverty. He has to bring his people to a happy medium where the rich can still have a voice--maybe then they won't be scheming to overthrow him all the time. Which kinda explains his paranoia along with the secretary of state calling him a threat…we all know what happens to threats.




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