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Paul McCartney died in 1966 - replaced by Billy Shepherd

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posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 05:33 PM
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Good for you just about everything you brought up hasn't been talked about in here....We stick to the real evidence...

Don't try to come in here and link these 28 pages to some other people's crazy theories....

The people who posted here stand by what is here , not by what you read in some other thread....

That is not fair...




posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 05:50 PM
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diabolo1 has already shown his hand. He is not working for truth & light. That is evident by the username he chose.



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 05:51 PM
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I went to the debunk site and looked around a bit. While they do make a few valid points it seems like some of them are taking photos of post 67 paul and comparing them to post 67 paul and saying, see he looks identical.

I don't know, as I've said before but it's just to strange to write off as stupid or to resort to petty name calling. Especially on a conspiracy website.

Come on people, wheres that open mind everyone loves to brag about on here.

Or does the open mind only come into play when you are talking about something you believe in?



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 05:53 PM
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some of them are taking photos of post 67 paul and comparing them to post 67 paul and saying, see he looks identical

Or they compare pics of Paul to pics of Paul. lol Maybe they really can't tell the difference? If not, then they have no eye for detail.

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posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 06:01 PM
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Take this picture here for example. They claim that they look like twins in this photo. pre and post 67 Paul that is. I completely disagree. I think this picture clearly shows the differences.

Maybe I'm just seeing something that's not there, but I don't think so.

i208.photobucket.com...



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 06:05 PM
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Originally posted by Fuggle

The problem is not that the PID nonsense is "disturbing", it's more that it's ridiculous, like reptillians, soul collectors on the moon, Elvis is alive, Morrison is alive. It's disturbing that there are actually people who take this nonsense seriously.

If it were true, Lennon would've been aware of it. What he was aware of was the rumour. And, of course, he refered to the people who believed the rumour as "freaks".

If it were true, the engineers would have been aware of it; Geoff Emerick recorded John saying "Cranberry sauce". He explained the context of it. And yet conspiracy theorists insist he's saying "Paul is Dead"...and you think that Martin (and the engineers...and the mastering engineers at EMI) would allow something so unsubtle to risk letting the cat out of the bag? This logic is Palinian.

And those endless photographs. Pictures and pictures of Pauls and "Fauls". You can do the same with anybody who's been photographed as much as McCartney was. Of course he's going to look different throughout the 60's. He was, what, twenty years old when "Love Me Do" was recorded? Do you expect him to look like a twenty-three year old forever?

This rumour is absurd and embarrassing.





Thank you Fuggle a) for maintaining my sanity and b) for a brilliant post.

Starred.



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posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 06:06 PM
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Originally posted by Strictsum
Take this picture here for example. They claim that they look like twins in this photo. pre and post 67 Paul that is. I completely disagree. I think this picture clearly shows the differences.

Maybe I'm just seeing something that's not there, but I don't think so.

i208.photobucket.com...


Wow, do they really consider that to be the same person?

I can see differences, but maybe I'm just making it all up...nope, I don't consider that to be the reason...

Yes, when I first encountered this theory I thought it was a tad absurd and embarrassing as well...but now...well...I find it less absurd (though there do seem to be, on some sites, a lot of obfuscation occurring which only serves to blur the issue...is this part of the overall campaign?...divide and conquer?



lol, in that last pic, John looks like he's having an awful lot of fun


Oooranoo/phoophaphoo
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posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 06:06 PM
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I agree this doesn't look like the same guy.




there do seem to be, on some sites, a lot of obfuscation occurring which only serves to blur the issue

Misdirection & disinformation. I'm sure some of you have encountered these tactics before?

What exactly is so difficult about believing Paul could have been replaced? Is it b/c the Illuminati-controlled media tells you it's him? I would really, sincerely like to know what the mental block is. B/c if you think it's not possible to replace someone, let me assure you it is.

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posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 06:25 PM
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Originally posted by faulconandsnowjob
I agree this doesn't look like the same guy.




Well gee ain't that a shocker!

This is easily the most ridiculous thread going on here at the moment.

But I admire your persistence, I'd accuse you all of simply trying
to accrue ATS points but they are sadly no more so it seems
this is just one big exercise in attention seeking amongst a small
group of likeminded individuals.

Post picture of Paul McCartney / Post other picture of Paul McCartney.

Highlight some barely noticeable irregularity to purposely draw peoples attentions to such as bigger cheeks, a larger forehead (lol!) or a larger
nose (suppsoedly!)
Get your buddies to star your post to make it look at least somewhat creditable, return the favour when they reply supporting your theory
with a 'Gee faulcon' I never noticed that ridiculous difference that
you've just manufactured, wow we are really onto something here,
soon the world will know that Faul lives and managed to fool
not only the millions of fans (millions of seemingly dumb fans as the only intelligent ones who have worked it out(who call themselves 'fans') post in this thread) but also his fellow band members, his FAMILY and FRIENDS,
business colleagues aswell as the hundreds and hundreds of musicians and
fellow artists who knew Paul closely.

I'm off to start one of my own, I'm calling it 'Ringo my arse, Pingo was the real Beatles drummer, read it all here!'

I reckon I will start my showing pictures of Ringo from 1962 compared
with 1967, I reckon by then there should be enough physical differences
given the way, y'know that fact of life how people actually physically change as they develop and grow older, that I can come up with at least a dozen
differences to start with.
Also he gave it away in 'Don't Pass Me By''
"I wonder where you are tonight
And why I'm by myself
I don't see you ..."

Here he is clearly saying that when he by himself that it's not really
him.
I'm telling you man, the truth is out there.




posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 06:49 PM
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Calling all Faulcon worshippers!


You've certainly changed your tune lad eh?

First off Paul was a member of the Illuminati.
Oh no wait the LEADER of the Illuminati........
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Yeah man they took him out because he was erm, a threat to erm,
well umm, yeah well anyway they replaced him with this Billy guy....
www.abovetopsecret.com...
who actually helped the Beatles maintain their status as the biggest
and most influential band on the planet for years after.
Yes that makes sense alright.

Then he was a Reptilian, oh no wait that's ''Faul", silly me,
now Hillary Clinton's involved! :
www.abovetopsecret.com...

What next, Paul/Faul lives on the Moon perhaps ?

You're a special case Faulcon. You crack me up mate.

Can some kind Mod please put this thread out of it's misery?

It's getting to the hurting my sides stage.

And it's not just me (thankfully - I was starting to lose faith in my fellow man)




Originally posted by the secret web
Your nose continues ot grow your entire life (as I have said before multiple times). Some peoples change more than others, depending on lifestyle, genetics and god alone knows what else.

Wayne...



Originally posted by Fuggle
The problem is not that the PID nonsense is "disturbing", it's more that it's ridiculous, like reptillians, soul collectors on the moon, Elvis is alive, Morrison is alive. It's disturbing that there are actually people who take this nonsense seriously.
This rumour is absurd and embarrassing.


Originally posted by diabolo1
Hi everybody,
i am a member of the internet forum 'Maccafunhouse'.
maccafunhouse.proboards.com...

While 60if board is basically dead, some of them gathered and created another forum called PID MISS HIM.
only1rad.proboards.com...
Anyways this is the situation...
Don't believe the hoax!




Originally posted by DazE777
I cannot, for the life of me, believe this thread is still going.

Dear lord!


I look forward to seeing the inevitable HOAX appear beside the thread title.

I've had enough of this nonsense for one night.


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posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 07:10 PM
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Some people seem like they know nothing about the Illuminati or intell. Does anyone doubt that assassinations happen? Does anyone deny the existence of doubles? Does anyone think it has never occurred to these people to replace someone they don't like w/ one of their own?

Consider the case of Gen. Montgomery. How easy would it be to replace the real one w/ a double should one want to do such a thing? One is Monty & the other is one of his official doubles. Can you tell the difference?




en.wikipedia.org...


Calling all Faulcon worshippers!

Seems like *someone* is jealous



Can some kind Mod please put this thread out of it's misery?

Yes, quick, shut down this thread before someone finds out the truth about this!


You're a special case Faulcon.

You have no idea.


I've had enough of this nonsense for one night.

Good. Then stop standing in the way of the truth.


[edit on 8-7-2009 by faulconandsnowjob]



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 07:38 PM
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I just got this comment:


Comment from: pmexplorer on: 8-7-2009 @ 18:29
Why don't you go straight to the horses [sic] mouth, I'm sure Paul will be more than happy to set the record straight.

Fan Mail Address:

Paul McCartney
MPL
1 Soho Square
London W1V6HD
UK


Yeah, that's going to clear it right up. Let's see, what would he say... I bet he would say he's the real Paul McCartney. Of course, he would never lie about it. lol. After over 40 yrs he's going to just come right out & reveal his true identity. Someone did ask him in Moscow if he were "natural or double." He said it was a secret & he couldn't tell.



Well, maybe we'll get a deathbed confession. One can always hope.

BTW, I've submitted 2 Freedom of Information Act requests to get information on Mal Evans' suspicious death & only got the run-around. Why did I think the govt would actually comply w/ the law & give me the information I requested?


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posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 09:16 PM
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or a larger
nose (suppsoedly!)
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I would suggest that the effort you put into being rude and accusatory (re: starring etc...there is no organisation, just observation) would be better directed at actually looking at the content that is posted because from the timbre of your posts you obviously haven't.

The nose isn't larger, it's a completely different shape. I suggest you take your Stevie wonder glasses off and actually try to come up with something concrete rather than attack us personally.

As for closing the thread? Why? Just because you, the almighty, want it to because you don't like it?
If you don't like it, ignore it. There are plenty of threads that I ignore on this site because I just plain disagree, why do you persist in coming back if it gives you so much grief. This site is big enough for us all. Let it be.

I knew nothing about this topic before it was posted here, so I think that it's good that it has been and good that it continues.

So you think 911 was an inside job?
Preposterous.


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posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 09:51 PM
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So you think 911 was an inside job?
Preposterous.

And Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone


This is how he describes himself on his profile:

More Stuff You Should Know
I am here to learn, participate and help. Oh and have fun while I'm at it!

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Really?



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 10:22 PM
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I knew nothing about this topic before it was posted here, so I think that it's good that it has been and good that it continues.



Same !!



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 10:33 PM
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Falcon,

I think you should try to find palm shots of pre 67 Paul. If you can find some and they are different you have a smoking gun.

That is the only way to "prove" this. Without it we're just running around in circles. The pictures while they do show some differences aren't proof. They can be written off very easily by skeptics.

If you truly want to prove this, find some palm shots. The ones I've seen look similar but none are clear shots of pre 67 Paul's palms.



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 10:39 PM
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Also fingerprints.

If Paul was a naughty boy and got his prints taken pre 1966, they SHOULD be on record somewhere. Contrast them with his prints today (that's acceptable isn't it? I mean prints don't grow long and hooked like noses over the years do they? )



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 10:59 PM
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Actually, I think when "Paul" got busted in Japan for having marijuana in 1980, there was an issue w/ the fingerprints not matching the ones on file from when the Beatles were there in 1966. He sat in jail for 10 days & then had to leave the country.

But legally, photographs do establish identity. I can cite case law in a later post. Voice prints also establish identity. I tried to get a sound engineer ex-boyfriend to do a sonagram of the 2 voices for me, but he refused. If anyone wants to do that, go for it.



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 11:27 PM
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Personally I don't believe it.


However, in the end, does it really matter? Even if Paul died in '66 and was replaced what's the difference really? The replacement still went on to help create some of the best music of the 20th century, and if that is in fact the case, I'm ok with that. Whether he happens to be Paul McCartney, Shepherd, or Marilyn Manson's Liverpool dwelling uncle, doesn't matter to me. What this individual has given the musical community, and music lovers everywhere is more important than an alleged identity theft from 43 years ago.

Whomever he is that is known as Paul McCartney now, still gets my respect, and that's good enough for me.



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 11:33 PM
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ok, I read pages and pages and the only way to find an answer is to question the reason for doing such a switch-a-roo.

the question is why.

Why use a double to fill in for Paul?

ok, the theory that many people will commit suicide, ok, just lately didn't 12 commit suicide over MJ's death? But, what would the illuminati or TPTB gain? A few hundred suicides (or a few thousand??) wouldn't bother them. Yet, since the Beatles were so beloved and cause such a reaction then is it more so THAT reaction would cause the anti-rock & roll movement to have valid points in their lectures on the ills of that culture of evils in music in general?

the theory of money. The Beatles were bringing in tons of cash, they were the top seller at the time. So what if one of the members die? A public replacement would seem an obvious choice. The origional members' (with Paul) albums would be worth a hell of a lot more. I don't see any other association that this was done for money. Do you?

To hide messages within the music/lyrics/mixing methods theory. The albums have been analysed to death now, is there even one consistent and viable message within then?

Paul ooops Faul is illuminati. ok, maybe. Heather Mills has her secrets about what she calls 'their sex life' and something about we (the public) would never see him the same if we knew what he does. (Askmen magazine article interterview). She also claims other things that hint to his associations with people that threaten her life (for being a big mouth).
But, lots of stars are associated with and likely illuminati members so who cares? Does this have anything to do with Faul being a double? Were the other Beatles members also? or did they reject it? I don't want specific answers to those questions, since all of the answers are speculation anyways. But, in that questioning (to myself), I hope to find the answers of the why so then I have logical reasoning for the true cause/effect model for the Faul being introduced to us/merging as Paul.

So why???? Why would they (tptb, the Beatles themselves, their managers etc) even want to replace instead of just allowing fans to grieve and move on., then re-forming the band with a new member (hopefully not one that has spooky and uncanny resemblence as in this case--no ghosts)?

What other reasons of why, can you think of?





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