Paul McCartney died in 1966 - replaced by Billy Shepherd, page 20
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reply posted on 23-6-2009 @ 09:55 PM by Wally Hope
reply to post by poet1b



You can't just make someone a star, if you could then the music industry would be extremely happy. Do you know how many bands that get signed by major record labels don't go anywhere? There are thousands. No one knows how they will sell until they have a record to sell, and if the first record is a flop many bands get dropped, at a loss to the label.

Signing a band or artist is always a gamble, there are no guarantees. No 'technology', known or unknown, is going to make the public buy an artists release.

If you guys actually had some evidence, such as how exactly The Beatles were helped by the 'Illuminati' then I'd listen, but so far there is far more evidence that your story is just a hoax. The Beatles got big because the public liked their music, and Paul is alive and well in East Sussex.

You don't want to know what the peacock told me...


reply posted on 23-6-2009 @ 10:14 PM by faulconandsnowjob



reply posted on 23-6-2009 @ 11:56 PM by Wally Hope
Originally posted by aorAki
Having said that, there are some curious things such as the obviously different nose shape and curiously-apparent fake ears...or so they seem to me, but i need to investigate this further.
Also, why so much backmasking. Admittedly some of it is clutching at non-existennt straws, but there are a couple (notably the 'Gratitude' one) which intrigue me....I mean, why would they do that?


I disagree with the nose and ears looking different, they look the same to me. As we keep saying different lighting and different angles, look at photos of someone else or even yourself.

What's the 'gratitude' one I must have missed it.

The 'backmasking' was a new toy to play with. Musicians are always looking for a new thing to do. They didn't do that much of it, a little backwards guitar here and there and some studio out takes just mixed in for effect. Paul was the first to experiment with it. After they stopped touring they had more time in the studio to experiment, both John and Paul had 4 track tape machines at home. It was all part of the new psychedelic music and avante garde (Paul was the first there also even though John is thought as being the radical one). John went to the Indica gallery to see Yoko Ono's exhibit after Paul had been to see it and recommended it to him.

Yes, it could be all just a big pisstake, and if so, well done!
However, i don't expect to be called a 'kid' when I'm not.


Well done to who? No one set up this hoax, it just sort of grew from a bunch of fans who kept finding the so called 'clues', that were then reported in a college paper or two. At the time it wasn't that big of a story, I think you guys are making more of it than anyone else ever did before the internet.

After Brian Epstein died the band was kind of lost, it was Paul that kept them going, and sort of become their leader much to the resentment of the rest. But if he didn't the band would have split more than likely. Even though John was seen as the leader by default in the beginning, he was too insecure for the role of leader when it became really necessary, before that they did what Brian and George Martin told them to do. Notice Paul got most of the 'A' sides, and he managed to manipulate a lot of the processes so he would stand out from the other 3, such as the black rose when the others all had red, or standing backwards towards the band like he was the conductor, walking out of step and barefoot on the 'Abbey Road' cover. Anything to stand out from the other three. Paul is good at self promotion.

Have you ever watched 'Let it Be'? If you haven't you should, you can see how Paul seems to be the one in control of the sessions. More time was spent on his songs, he tended to be more experimental on Johns songs than he did his own.

Why would the other 3 let that happen if he was not Paul? Common sense and logic should tell you that answer.

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reply posted on 24-6-2009 @ 12:02 AM by Wally Hope
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Well this thread is taking the hoax very seriously, so why shouldn't I?

Should only the believers in this take it seriously?

BTW it was kids that started this whole thing, kids in the Beatles fan club.
I find it funny that adults take this seriously.

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reply posted on 24-6-2009 @ 02:26 AM by Wally Hope
reply to post by LucidDreamer85



LOL no it's not.

This is the third time I've linked to this...

www.beatlesagain.com...

Is the man that actually said it lying?



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reply posted on 24-6-2009 @ 02:51 AM by Wally Hope
reply to post by LucidDreamer85



You can't tell he's pushing his chin forward a little in that first pic?

Don't you understand that the human face is capable of many expressions that change the shape of it?

Look at the shape of his eyes, they are the same.

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reply posted on 24-6-2009 @ 11:13 AM by poet1b
reply to post by Wally Hope



No, you can't make just anyone a star. You need someone with the talent along with the other abilities, but there are a great many, very talented people out there with the ability and the desire. I would say more capable applicants than job openings. It takes more than just talent. What did Epstein do to get The Beatles on over the top? He put them in suits, which is what prime time media wanted. Big media does get to pick and choose who they want, and they have created stars who they groomed for their own purposes, or whose careers were nurtured because this enabled the media to put out a message that they wanted to put out, like to grow the drug culture.

Yeah, plenty of bands never make it, but how much of that is lack of putting out the tunes that people want to hear, or failure to conform to the industries desires. For the Music industry it is just R&D costs.

If you really know Paul McCartney, WOW, cool. If you have met him in person, then I guess you know how tall he is. Then again, you could be anyone saying anything. How well do you know him, or were you just a tourist who visited his farm once?

If Paul is Paul, I wonder what he thinks about this conspiracy. Does he think it is funny or annoying most of the time? Why hasn't Paul ever done something to end the theories. I suspect that he sees it as probably good publicity, and a yearning for the days before the Beatles broke up. Obviously, the die hards are big fans of McCartney, they just prefer the younger McCartney, but don't we all prefer a younger version of ourselves, at least those of us past 40.

I think John and Paul were a couple of the greatest singers and songwriters in the history of Rock-n-Roll, that is clear.


reply posted on 24-6-2009 @ 11:35 AM by poet1b
reply to post by Wally Hope



Umm, if John was in on the conspiracy, which he would have had to have been, then yes, when forced, he probably would lie.

On further listening, what I hear is "I bury s". What I though was the "Paul", sounds like "I", which is probably John repeating the phrase several seconds later. I definitely do not hear a cran. It clearly sounds like "I". Maybe he was just thinking about turkey and cranberry sauce, or maybe he had something to say, and cranberry sauce got the statement left on the record. Maybe it was more of a self destructive statement, and he is saying "I bury myself" in a cryptic manner. This would actually match the mood of the song and theme of the song.
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