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Paul McCartney died in 1966 - replaced by Billy Shepherd

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posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by faulconandsnowjob
Oh, hold on there, Nelly. I think you have us confused w/ the PIA'ers. I've had to put about 6 PIA'ers on ignore b/c I got tired of the constant stream of insults they were spewing. I guess they thought they were going to deter me from posting? LOL! They have no idea who they're dealing w/... Anyway, anyone who reads thru this thread will see from which side the vast majority of insults is coming.
[edit on 4-9-2009 by faulconandsnowjob]


Nelly is a horse. I am a human being. I have not approached anyone in a less than civil manner. Debate and fact checking or clarification is not a personal matter.

I will use multiple posts to respond to yours so I will refer to them here.

First, if you know anything about obsessive compulsive disorder you will know that doing things in a certain manner and never veering from it could include which hands are used for certain tasks. It manifests in many ways. Saying you won't do something a different way is not the same as saying you can't.

You are attempting to insult someone who has maintained a composed demeanor throughout and was not even directing comments to you. Throwing insults at me, while ignoring points, will not deter me from pointing out issues which could null or lower the credibility of a fact and expecting a mature and topic focused response, regardless of which side presents it. It is known as being objective.




posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 04:10 PM
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30 April 1967, John Lennon attends the 14-hour Technicolour Dream event at Alexandra Palace, north London. Yoko Ono was performing but they did not meet.

What a coincidence!

"Paul" was at the Bag O' Nails club while Linda was there on a night out with The Animals. Their eyes meet and it's love at first sight! He used a pickup line and she goes on with him to the Speakeasy club. She then turns up at Brian Epstein's house to photograph the launching party for Sgt Pepper and happens to meet "Paul" again. Then they don't see each other for almost a year.

What serendipity! It's just the fickle finger of fate, don't you know. Must have been God's will, you see, that John & Yoko got together and Paul and Linda got together. All random, you see.

Note to kind readers... watch out as the flame throwers on the board try to suck you into emotional arguing. They've been at it since this board got started. Don't go into the flames! Stay cool.



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 04:44 PM
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Originally posted by Ethera
You are attempting to insult someone who has maintained a composed demeanor throughout and was not even directing comments to you. Throwing insults at me, while ignoring points, will not deter me from pointing out issues which could null or lower the credibility of a fact and expecting a mature and topic focused response, regardless of which side presents it. It is known as being objective.




Where did faulcon attempt to insult you?

I suppose ignoring your posts is an insult?



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 05:21 PM
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I've just studied the photographs of Paul in THE BEATLES: 10 Years That Shook The World, published by DK for Mojo Magazine, 2004.

It is clear to me, looking at the photos, that Paul was replaced at the end of 1966. The last photos of Paul were taken in August, 1966.

All photos from later than the month of August 1966 are of the replacement. The shot that really convinces me he was replaced (actually the earlier Kenya footage convinces me) can be found on page 187. It's from the Sgt Pepper launch party (Linda attending) and I'm sorry, that is not Paul McCartney! There's just no way. That is a replacement, a double.

Compare that with the photo on page 205 from March 25, 1966 from the butcher cover photo sessions. It ain't the same Paul. No way.

A switch was made.

Why and how remain a deep mystery.



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 06:15 PM
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Since I believe that theory and speculation are welcome on this thread, I will put forward another possibility.

Suppose all four original Beatles are together in one of their houses smoking pot, pitching some new song ideas to each other with acoustic guitars and just hanging out and havnig a good time. As the evening progresses, they do heavier drugs. Something like a speedball is tried (this nasty mix of speed and heroin is what killed John Belushi). Before they know it, Paul overdoses and his heart stops. He's dead like Michael Jackson and Belushi.

The other Beatles (and perhaps one or more of the girlfriends/wives) try desperately to revive Paul but cannot. They phone Epstein first for directions as what to do. Epstein phones the Prime Minister and they discuss how this incident must be kept strictly secret. The PM has intel agents retrieve the body. The police never knew it happened.

Then, the three remaining Beatles and their girlfriends/wives along with Mal and Neil and possibly Mike McCartney meet with MI-6 and Brian and they all discuss putting a double in the band. MI-6 say they can find a double. They all reluctantly agree that it is possible and is preferable to going public with the truth.

If that is approximately what happened, then that would explain why the Beatles and their inner circle went along so willingly with the switch. If they felt like the public must never know they were all sitting there doing hard drugs and Paul O.D.'d right there with them. They might be keen to suppress the truth.

The problem with this theory is that it supposes an accidental drug overdose, which would make Paul's death unexpected. However, to have a replacement up to speed and ready to step in would mean that MI-6 had already been training someone for months prior to the incident. If they didn't see Paul's death coming, why would they train a double for months in advance?

I don't see how TPTB could have found a double who plays bass & guitar left handed and sings like Paul in between 1 September 1966 and 10 November, when press photos are issued with all four Beatles wearing moustaches for the first time.

Interesting to note that Jane did depart for Kenya with Paul on 6 November 1966. Was it the real Paul? Did the accident happen in Kenya? Was it not the real Paul and Jane staged going with him but caught the next plane out of Kenya when they got there?

14 - 15 November 1966, Brian Epstein makes a series of public announcements denying that the Beatles are breaking up.

19 November, 1966 "Paul" and Jane return to London from Kenya.

24 November, recording sessions begin for Sgt Pepper.

However it happened, the switch happened fast. The trips out of town (John in Spain, "Paul" in Kenya, Ringo and Maureen in Malaga, George in India) these trips may have helped divert attention away from "the accident".

Epstein was admitted to hospital 27 September 1966 for "medical checks and observation". They say he overdosed on occasion and this was one of the times he had to have his stomach pumped. That's the official story but one has to wonder if that was what was really going on at Priory Hospital, London or if there was some other reason Brian was there.



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 06:56 PM
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Originally posted by switching yard
Not everything is as innocent as the Apple organization would like you to believe.


This made me think of how important the apple is as a symbol...



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 07:03 PM
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Originally posted by switching yard
Macca: Yoko knocked on my door. I didn't know who she was. She asked me for handwritten song manuscripts so she could auction them off to raise money for an art project. I told her I didn't have any that I would part with, but she should go and ask my partner John for some of his. She then went to John's house.

Now, this is such a silly story I don't know why anyone would believe it...


Here's some interesting background info on the "hippie artist."


Yoko Ono was born to mother Isoko Ono, the granddaughter of Zenjiro Yasuda of the Yasuda banking family, and to father Eisuke Ono, who worked for the Yokohama Specie Bank and was a descendant of an Emperor of Japan.[1] ... In 1937, her father was transferred back to Japan and Ono was enrolled at Tokyo's Gakushuin, one of the most exclusive schools in Japan, which, before World War II, was open only to the Japanese imperial family and aristocrats of the House of Peers...

en.wikipedia.org...



[edit on 4-9-2009 by faulconandsnowjob]



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 07:12 PM
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Originally posted by switching yard
What serendipity! It's just the fickle finger of fate, don't you know. Must have been God's will, you see, that John & Yoko got together and Paul and Linda got together. All random, you see.


Some background info on "Lady Linda":


Linda McCartney was born Linda Louise Eastman, the second-eldest of four children, to Jewish-American parents in New York City. ...She grew up in the wealthy Scarsdale area of Westchester County, New York and graduated from Scarsdale High School in 1960.[3] Her father was the son of Jewish-Russian immigrants. He changed his name from Leopold Vail Epstein to Lee Eastman, but was not related to George Eastman of Eastman Kodak fame.[2][4] He was songwriter Jack Lawrence's attorney, and at his request, Lawrence wrote a song called "Linda" in honour of the five-year-old. The song was recorded by Buddy Clark in 1947.[2]

Her mother Louise Sara Lindner Eastman [was] heiress to the Lindner Department Store fortune...

en.wikipedia.org...



Note to kind readers... watch out as the flame throwers on the board try to suck you into emotional arguing. They've been at it since this board got started...

Sure, they'd like to get people to talk about anything other than the actual topic of this thread, which is Paul McCartney & his replacement.



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 07:18 PM
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Originally posted by switching yard
It is clear to me, looking at the photos, that Paul was replaced at the end of 1966. The last photos of Paul were taken in August, 1966.


I agree that Paul was replaced in August 1966 - during the US tour. Trying to nail down exactly when he was replaced has been difficult, though. It's definitely Paul on Aug 19, 1966 in Memphis. Then, it looks like a double at the Aug 22 NY interview, the Aug 28 LA interview, & coming off the plane in San Francisco on Aug 29. However, it sure looks like Paul in pics of the Candlestick show on Aug 29.



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 07:44 PM
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faulcon, thanks for the background info on Yoko and Linda. I knew the basics of that info already, but I never (until now) considered that these women would have made excellent intelligence operatives.

I think they were assigned to John and Faul as part of the program. I would be interested in knowing what May Pang thinks but I doubt she would comment on it publicly.

Maybe someone going on that Beatles fan cruise coming up with May Pang can ask her in a private moment.

I think it is logical to suspect Yoko and Linda were intel agents, pretty high level ones at that.

On another note, I keep thinking this Kenya trip really sounds fishy. Something about it really bothers me.

The Beatles finish their American tour, fly back to London and then they individually take off on travels to different far flung locations. It's almost like a big cover that they "got out of Dodge" and are not going to be seen together for awhile.

They've not been home for months having been on world tour and instead of resting at home, they're off to separate destinations growing moustaches.

I've always thought John agreeing to be in HOW I WON THE WAR and going straight on location in Spain for that shoot seems weird. After a grueling world tour, do you really want to head to Spain, cut your hair, and slog about in the mud? Odd.

Spetember 1966 to the end of the year --- that is the suspect time period when things get fishy. I would really like to know the real reason Epstein is reported to be at Priory Hospital, London on 27 September, 1966. What's up with that?



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 07:45 PM
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Originally posted by switching yard
The problem with this theory is that it supposes an accidental drug overdose, which would make Paul's death unexpected. However, to have a replacement up to speed and ready to step in would mean that MI-6 had already been training someone for months prior to the incident. If they didn't see Paul's death coming, why would they train a double for months in advance?

Exactly. This is the main reason I don't think his death was an "accident."


Interesting to note that Jane did depart for Kenya with Paul on 6 November 1966. Was it the real Paul?

This is from the 1st part of that trip in Spain. That's def not Paul:






19 November, 1966 "Paul" and Jane return to London from Kenya.


Bill & Mal Evans at Heathrow airport after the Kenyan trip:




24 November, recording sessions begin for Sgt Pepper.


Def not Paul




posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 07:52 PM
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Interesting you think the switch may have happened in the USA in August before the Candlestick Park show. I haven't really considered that, but I have an open mind. If that's true CIA was heavy in on at least the coverup with approval of British intel.

One thing is true, we know the Beatles were not psychologically in a good mood to go on with the Candlestick Park show. They have all kind of said it was drudgery and they've said (Brian, as well) that they knew for a fact it was their last show ever. In fact, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Brian didn't even show up for that last show at all.

There is a film out containing amateur footage shot at the Candlestick Park show but I haven't seen it. Would like to see that.



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 07:55 PM
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Originally posted by switching yard
faulcon, thanks for the background info on Yoko and Linda. I knew the basics of that info already, but I never (until now) considered that these women would have made excellent intelligence operatives.

They could also have been Illuminati w/ those family connections.


I think they were assigned to John and Faul as part of the program. I would be interested in knowing what May Pang thinks ...

She was w/ John while he was running around intel-infested Laurel Canyon...


I think it is logical to suspect Yoko and Linda were intel agents, pretty high level ones at that.

Agreed.


I keep thinking this Kenya trip really sounds fishy. Something about it really bothers me.

It seems like it may have been a way to get Bill out of the public eye. Maybe that's where he had training &/or "work done" on his face.


I would really like to know the real reason Epstein is reported to be at Priory Hospital, London on 27 September, 1966.


As would I...

[edit on 4-9-2009 by faulconandsnowjob]



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 07:56 PM
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Your photos above --- totally agree with you, that's not Paul.

Bill went to Spain then Kenya. With Jane? Or was it made to look like she went with him.

I just can't believe Jane would take up with Bill at all. Mal yes, Jane no.



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 08:12 PM
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Originally posted by switching yard
Interesting you think the switch may have happened in the USA in August before the Candlestick Park show. I haven't really considered that, but I have an open mind. If that's true CIA was heavy in on at least the coverup with approval of British intel.

My current working theory is that CIA were the hitman. I believe their strategy was roughly 1) try to convince everyone Bill was Paul. If that failed, then 2) stage a car crash & make it seem like an accident. If that failed, then 3) pin it on the KKK who had been making threats against the Beatles for John's Jesus statement.



There is a film out containing amateur footage shot at the Candlestick Park show but I haven't seen it.

This concert seems a little weird to me. It was only 33 minutes long, & there seems to be a dearth of footage from it. This was the very last Beatles concert ever, yet it doesn't seem to receive as much attention as one would think the very last Beatles concert ever would... Know what I'm saying?



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 08:22 PM
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Yeah, Candlestick Park was a real downer. The photos I've seen look like it wasn't even a sold out gig.

I've been sitting here looking at photos from the L.A. press conference 28 Aug '66 and to me, it looks like Paul there. The book has a complete transcript of the press conference Q&A and it seems like nothing is amiss. If that's Bill, they are doing one hell of a smooth job to be relaxed and using their trademark sense of humor with the reporters.

I'm just not convinced Paul is out of the picture before the end of the US tour. I think the dastardly deed probably happened some days after the final concert. But I'm new at this, so I've got an open mind.



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 08:23 PM
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Originally posted by switching yard
Bill went to Spain then Kenya. With Jane? Or was it made to look like she went with him.

I don't have an answer for that right now. Let me look into it...


I just can't believe Jane would take up with Bill at all. Mal yes, Jane no.


I guess it's not as hard for me to believe Jane would. Remember her family connections? Her father was a prominent psychiatrist & her mother was related to the earls of St. Germans. Jane got engaged to Bill in Dec. 1967. Anyway, Paul lived in the Asher household (supposedly) from '64-'66, which is kind of bizarre to me.

[edit on 4-9-2009 by faulconandsnowjob]



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 08:26 PM
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Oh, and I've read somewhere that Yoko was/is fluent in no less than seven languages.

She's quite a capable and powerful woman. A lot of the eccentric artist stuff was B.S.



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 08:33 PM
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Originally posted by switching yard
I'm just not convinced Paul is out of the picture before the end of the US tour. I think the dastardly deed probably happened some days after the final concert.

To me, Paul's hair in the LA interview looks kind of unnatural - like a wig. Here's Paul in Memphis on Aug 19:







Now, compare to LA Aug 28:







See what I'm getting at? If you think it's Paul in LA, that's cool. Something about it just doesn't seem right to me...



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 08:56 PM
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Well, I see what you're getting at but the pics of him in L.A. don't look obviously wrong to me like the ones you posted earlier on this page of the Bill guy on the Kenya trip.

I'm open minded, but as of right now, I think it seems the switch happened after the end of the tour. Just intuitively I think it would have been extremely difficult to replace him mid tour, but not so difficult after the tour when they are all away "on holiday." I think definitely the switch happened before Faul left London for Spain and Kenya.

By the way, so the big Beatles remaster event happens on 9-9-9 which happens to be a Wednesday, so will the official release commence at 5:00 AM as the day begins?

Sorry, couldn't help it, had to go there!



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