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reply posted on 20-2-2006 @ 01:31 AM by dgoodpasture
Venus and Mars have been the closest to each other than they have been for quite some time. I watch the sky constantly... day and night.. I'm in love with it... so if you haven't studied astronomy or looked over the sky carefully... and only read what is posted here on ATS... then I can see how so many conspiracies have been started about this. The truth is... I don't have actual percentages, so I'll go out on a limb here... I'd say about 85% of humans know nothing about the stars... if you told them there was a giant star wars like death star coming towards us, and it was visible in the night sky at such and such time. .. probably 50% of them would believe without a doubt that it was true after they went outside and saw it for themselves... the 15% that already know what it is, will tell the majority... who will then tell them that they are wrong.. that 15% will leave the message board and go somewhere else where people actually have knowledge. The other 35% will actually see the "star"... then take it upon themselves to look it up in an actual astronomy book or on a website dedicated to astronomy, and realize it's all fake. The rest who believe... just never care to take the time and look for the truth... and the conspiracy goes... infecting those who are too lazy or careless to look it up... until someone like me has to come along and write this post... Then I'll have to get my starmap out... find which star or planet you are actually referring to... scan it on my scanner... and do all the work for YOU and the others... so that it is finally conceived to be false.. hehe

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reply posted on 20-2-2006 @ 09:45 PM by LeftBehind
Ah yes, the theories of Zacharia Sitchin loom their ugly head again.

www.sitchin.com...

Readers of my books will hardly need reminding that that planetary mother was called TIAMAT in the Sumerian Epic of Creation - a text deemed by scholars to be an allegory, a myth, a religious text -- but treated by me in The 12th Planet and Genesis Revisited as a sophisticated cosmogony dealing with the creation of our Solar System and the fate of Tiamat, a watery planet that had existed in the space between Mars and Jupiter and was destroyed in a celestial collision with an Invader-planet (Nibiru). As a result of the collision:

• Half of Tiamat was smashed to bits and pieces to become the asteroids and shortterm comets that orbit between Mars and Jupiter;

• The other half was thrust closer to the Sun to become planet Earth;

• The leading large satellite of Tiamat (“Kingu”) was carried along to become Earth’s Moon;

• Tiamat’s other ten satellites were broken up to become comets, especially those with retrograde orbits.




I personally find Sitchin's theories excellent science fiction/fantasy. Unfortunately he wants to push this stuff as the truth. His "evidence" presented in his books are usually hand drawn copies of sumerian objects, and him mistranslating sumerian and hebrew so it sounds like their talking about spaceships all the time.

As far as I can tell, his cosmology is impossible, especially the "retrograde" orbits that sound so scientificcy.

Here is a break down of quite a few of the fallacies presented by Sitchin.

www.geocities.com...

Clearly, Sitchin is a smart man. He weaves a complicated tale from the bits and pieces of evidence that survive from ancient Sumeria to the present day. Just as clearly, Sitchin is capable of academic transgressions (fracturing quotes, ignoring dissenting facts), theft of intellectual property (those tables he copied) and flights of intellectual fancy (the whole book, really). Worst of all, he is almost utterly innocent of astronomy and other assorted fields of modern science.

He nevertheless paints a picture that is very attractive. One wants to believe it, for it explains so many things. Intellectual honesty, however, prevents anyone with common sense, access to archeological and astronomical data and the ability to read from taking his book seriously. In the end, he's just another nut making a living selling books that treat folks to a tale they want to believe in.

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