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Topic started on 19-2-2006 @ 11:25 PM by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
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I've been to great lengths to prove this, and have it debunked. I feel I've proven it, and I've yet to get any real arguments on this:
www.ignoranceisntbliss.com...
www.ignoranceisntbliss.com...
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reply posted on 20-2-2006 @ 03:30 AM by Firefly_
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All I have to do to prove your theories rubbish is to prove your bible is rubbish. I can do that by pointing out one contradiction, thats all it
takes, as an infallible book dictated by an infallible god would have no errors or contradictions. Even more so, how about a contradiction where in
two different tellings of the same story, David is told by God to take a census, yet in the second its Satan who tells him? Do you understand the
implications of this? How could such a serious error enter into an infallible book? If it was altered by someone, how can you trust a single thing
anywhere else in the book? And if it wasnt, then that means your god is the devil.
Are you against having a pacemaker? What about a hearing aid? These are both types of implants regularly used for years. I guess all deaf people are
instruments of satan and will burn in hell for having a device to help them hear, and people with pacemakers will burn for cheating death?
When the hell will you religious nuts stop putting down all the progress of man, because your twisted god forbids us to achieve anything beyond war
and destruction without him? Humans are capable of so much more than being restrained to worshippinga vicious tribal god. I will not deny that this
technology has the potential to be misused, and it will be misused. Tell me though, why are you even on a computer at all, when it uses the same
technology that powers these chips, albeit on a larger scale?
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reply posted on 20-2-2006 @ 04:06 AM by Figjam
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Why do I have to go to all those links & research? Why can't you just tell us what your theory is in here?
.......just call me shallow, but if you've got something to say, then just say it here instead of all those link things.
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reply posted on 20-2-2006 @ 06:14 AM by nazgarn
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I would like those as text, could you please provide? Would be much easier to quote and debate. I started reading the first one and gave up...
- Nazgarn
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reply posted on 21-2-2006 @ 02:09 AM by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
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Originally posted by Firefly_
All I have to do to prove your theories rubbish is to prove your bible is rubbish. I can do that by pointing out one contradiction, thats all it
takes,
See: “Straw Man”. You need to disprove the Book of Revelation if you’re actually going to try to go that route.
“as an infallible book dictated by an infallible god would have no errors or contradictions.”
If it’s all true then man could have messed with it, according to our free will. Each person involved in that would thus have hell to pay.
“Even more so, how about a contradiction where in two different tellings of the same story, David is told by God to take a census, yet in the second
its Satan who tells him? Do you understand the implications of this? How could such a serious error enter into an infallible book? If it was altered
by someone, how can you trust a single thing anywhere else in the book?”
*See above
“And if it wasnt, then that means your god is the devil.”
Then why would satan warn us against the tyrannical enslavement system that I describe here?
“Are you against having a pacemaker? What about a hearing aid? These are both types of implants regularly used for years. I guess all deaf people
are instruments of satan and will burn in hell for having a device to help them hear, and people with pacemakers will burn for cheating death?”
*I didn’t bash ALL technology, jus these tyrannical species changing / enslavement technologies.
“When the hell will you religious nuts stop putting down all the progress of man, because your twisted god forbids us to achieve anything beyond war
and destruction without him? Humans are capable of so much more than being restrained to worshipping a vicious tribal god. I will not deny that this
technology has the potential to be misused, and it will be misused.”
*Why are you so unhappy with yourself? You dont have to answer that.
“Tell me though, why are you even on a computer at all, when it uses the same technology that powers these chips, albeit on a larger scale?”
Because I’m not bound to it by flesh and mind. For now I can do my work at the same level as everyone else, for now and then my efforts will become
truly obsolete, I can handle that…
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reply posted on 21-2-2006 @ 02:10 AM by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
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Originally posted by Figjam
Why do I have to go to all those links & research? Why can't you just tell us what your theory is in here?
.......just call me shallow, but if you've got something to say, then just say it here instead of all those link things. 
The theory's there, just read both pages.
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reply posted on 21-2-2006 @ 02:14 AM by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
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Originally posted by nazgarn
I would like those as text, could you please provide? Would be much easier to quote and debate. I started reading the first one and gave up...
- Nazgarn 
I have a prepared overview thats close to this, but it's in my blog and ATS will delete the thread and ban me if I post it in here. I've already
been thru all that. I've steadily been on this with constant new developments for months, but ATS has been in the dark due to binary policy. I spend
soo much time on all of this for free, and I honestly dont have time to rewrite all of my materials from scratch just to post in ATS.
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reply posted on 21-2-2006 @ 07:23 AM by apex
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That is a great bit of research there. It must have taken ages to do it all. On the bottom right of the second page it suggests we should warn
people. the trouble is, people will just ridicule you and ignore you, and not take the least bit of notice.
Also, on a different point, to say that all the bible is wrong because of one little fault, after thousands of years, one mistake isn't really that
bad if you think about it.
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reply posted on 21-2-2006 @ 01:05 PM by syrinx high priest
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the beast is ROME, and yes it has been constructed already
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reply posted on 21-2-2006 @ 03:55 PM by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
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Originally posted by syrinx high priest
the beast is ROME, and yes it has been constructed already 
That's the weakest of all possible interpretations of the beast, it's typically used by those deperate to dismiss Revelation.
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reply posted on 21-2-2006 @ 04:06 PM by nativeokie
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I have a question, I may have missunderstood something. When someone suggested the bible you base this theory on is "rubbish" due to the ability to
find a single fault in it (which would tell you that God did not write the old testament) you say to prove that you have to demonstrate that
revelations is wrong. Does this mean your belief is that revelations is the only guarenteed accurate book in the bible? Do you discount the
inconsistencies of both the old and new testiment? If mistakes or contridictions are made in other books of the bible why are you so sure the final
chapter is so accurate?
Also I wonder they God would choose to speak to the people of the world quite extensively and then stop 2000 years ago? Wouldn't God have spoken
further of the end times, especially as man has evolved so dramatically in the last two centuries?
Just curious, seems there are some real holes in the entire concept of the book of revelations and the divine authoring of the bible.
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reply posted on 21-2-2006 @ 04:12 PM by MauiStacey
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Ignor, why don't you post a link to your blog? I bet people would like to read it.
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reply posted on 22-2-2006 @ 01:36 AM by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
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Originally posted by nativeokie
I have a question, I may have missunderstood something. When someone suggested the bible you base this theory on is "rubbish" due to the ability to
find a single fault in it (which would tell you that God did not write the old testament) you say to prove that you have to demonstrate that
revelations is wrong. Does this mean your belief is that revelations is the only guarenteed accurate book in the bible? Do you discount the
inconsistencies of both the old and new testiment? If mistakes or contridictions are made in other books of the bible why are you so sure the final
chapter is so accurate?"
"Just curious, seems there are some real holes in the entire concept of the book of revelations and the divine authoring of the bible." 
Some say it was the only book "written by" Jesus Himself, but who knows. It's been thousands of years, I'd say this book is holding up rather
nicely. There may also other books that might not have any real place in the Bible, I honestly havent gotten to scrutinizing the index of the Bible
many books, but I see this book standing the test of time. I'd expect the last chapter of any ancient bible (collection of books) to be the most
accurate. Further this book has the most content that would be hard for misleading scribes to interfere with. For example it mentions
"(anti-christ/satans) image" some 10 times. The book was so radical that it's stumped scholars for 2 millenia.
"Also I wonder they God would choose to speak to the people of the world quite extensively and then stop 2000 years ago? Wouldn't God have spoken
further of the end times, especially as man has evolved so dramatically in the last two centuries?"
*People shouldnt expect to see or hear God, because that expectation could be filled with visits from demons. Sort of like how "God" tells bush to
invade the middle east. Same applies that we're not supposed to make unto image of Jesus Himself, for all we know the anti-christ will look just like
all of those Catholic and Mormon images of Him. Hell, God never even said that angels are supposed to have wings, that comes from somewhere else:
www.sacred-texts.com...
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reply posted on 22-2-2006 @ 01:37 AM by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
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Originally posted by MauiStacey
Ignor, why don't you post a link to your blog? I bet people would like to read it. 
I'd probably get banned for spamming, I've been warned.
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reply posted on 22-2-2006 @ 01:45 AM by Thomas Crowne
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I have a crazy idea...why don't you assemble your thoughts and opinions, explain it to us and then provide supporting links, if you want.
If we wanted to just go to the internet and look stuff up, we could.
Tell us what your thoughts are and why.
Yup, spamming is a bad thing. Explaining what you are talking about, in your own words, is a very good thing. Using word will even help with
spelling and grammar. I should use it more, myself.
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reply posted on 22-2-2006 @ 01:47 AM by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
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I've done that, but it's in a blog on my myspace account so therefore it'll be considered spam if I pos tit here, and i dont have time (honestly)
to rewrite the entire thing.
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reply posted on 22-2-2006 @ 03:02 AM by Lucid Lunacy
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Originally posted by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
I've done that, but it's in a blog on my myspace account so therefore it'll be considered spam if I pos tit here, and i dont have time (honestly)
to rewrite the entire thing. 
 I have a crazy idea...why don't you assemble your thoughts and opinions, explain it to us and then provide supporting links, if you want.
If we wanted to just go to the internet and look stuff up, we could.
Tell us what your thoughts are and why. 
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reply posted on 22-2-2006 @ 03:56 AM by ThichHeaded
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Originally posted by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
I've done that, but it's in a blog on my myspace account so therefore it'll be considered spam if I pos tit here, and i dont have time (honestly)
to rewrite the entire thing. 
Ever hear of Cut&Paste?
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reply posted on 22-2-2006 @ 09:16 AM by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
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No I was informed that I cant "republish" here and if I post my link as text it'll be considered spam. I'll have to address this later but for now
I'm getting ready to be on Revereradionetwork.com tonight Wed Feb 22 at 12AM EST.
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reply posted on 11-3-2006 @ 12:49 AM by smallpeeps
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Originally posted by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
No I was informed that I cant "republish" here and if I post my link as text it'll be considered spam. I'll have to address this later but for now
I'm getting ready to be on Revereradionetwork.com tonight Wed Feb 22 at 12AM EST. 
Your myspace page seems nonexistent. I hate myspace so good-on-ya!
But how the heck are we supposed to follow your links (IE proof)?
I like your theory and I like these two images. I can see how a person might organize their thoughts and imagery in photoshop or whatever you did
there. I like it.  But I want to learn more about the rat brains, so can you at least do us the courtesy of typing out the URLs as contained in
your image? That's the least you could do. Especially when the story is so compelling. What you are describing is similar to what I have read.
If this is true, and rat cells have been merged with human stem cells to create super nanorat brains which can then be injected into people and what
have you-- Well, I'd like to research it a bit.
Why not devote a bit more energy to this thread here, IgnoranceIsntBliss? "The Beast" is something people like to discuss in this forum, and I do
enjoy your posts.
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