Disgusting, isn't it?

Our country's policy seems to be centered on making everything better abroad before fixing things here. Not only that, but they're just trying to make good in the eyes of Muslims.

D'oh! I saw Phillipines and I thought Indonesia for some reason. Sorry about that...

The Philippines has NOTHING like the Red Cross or other non-military organizations that we have in the US. If you have ever been there and SEEN how poor the people in the PHilippines are you wouldn't make statements about how disgusting it is that we're sending troops to help immediately. In the area that my home there is, out of 15 houses, there are TWO that I am aware of that even have refrigerators, that aren't part of stoes. That's something everyone here takes for granted, but it's an extravigance there. I was able to send $600/month to my wife, and she'd have enough to pay our bills, buy food, and give some to her family to help them out with basics. Did you know that 90% of the country is at or below the poverty level?



[edit on 2/18/2006 by Zaphod58]

Imelda Marcos & the shoes was a joke

this calamity ranks with mt. pinatubo, imo


as far as a quick & unconditional help/assistance response
by the USA to a l-o-n-g time friend & ally.....well....
~where's the Vaticans' help & aid teams??~

And the point *I* was trying to make is that we have organizations BESIDES the military that can respond first after a disaster. Like the Red Cross, and others. The Philippines has nothing even close to that. Yes we should have sent our military into NO sooner, but if we had I'm sure we'd hear people screaming about THAT as well.

Only in small areas of the Philippines. I've spent a LOT of time there in the last few years, and never had a single problem with the Muslim population anywhere near where I was. Mindanao is the only real problem area.

AS usual the lunies try to lie and mislead the truth about Katrina.

First responder is LOCAL then STATE then Federal. FACT...........

The ultimate center of liberal planetary bliss was NOLA. Alway looking for a hand out not a hand UP!.

Military assets in the area of the Phillipines is an easy call because the ships are "stationed" there.

The NO disasted starts and ends with the lazy, give me money, you own me, crowd that infect that area like cancer.

Based on the BILLION sent to NO in the last 60 years for flood control and the "war on poverty" the rain should have never even touched the ground..........

loam,

I see your point if no one else does. And yes, it does boil one's blood to realize that half a world a way we can provide an immediate response.

Yet when a catastrophe strikes the Americans who provided the money enabling that immediate response, those Americans cannot/do no receive it.

Certainly there is something wrong with this picture. Something that has nothing to do with poverty, nothing to do with color of skin, nothing to do with religion......

What is has to do with in the simplest terms is:

Don't the Americans paying for this human aide to other nations deserve to receive that aide as HUMAN BEINGS as well?

Yes, loam, it boils my blood as well.





[edit on 19-2-2006 by garyo1954]

The congress is more directly responsible for the Fema "mess" than anyone, they put it under Homeland security, superbeurocracy........

FACT.state troopers in LA held suppies from the superdome on the govenors orders for fear of too many people showing up.

The "joke" is the insane "hate" so many have for thsi administration.

There were thousands of military on the ground in only a few hours. Who do you think evacuated the superdome. And took out the looters.

The size of the disaster was larger than the entire island of england.

My blood boils at the lies and disinformation surrounding this disaster.

Slamming the logistics of mounting the rescure of thousands of square miles in three states compared to a small village in the phillipines is just nosense.



[edit on 19-2-2006 by thermopolis]

Originally posted by thermopolis
The congress is more directly responsible for the Fema "mess" than anyone, they put it under Homeland security, superbeurocracy........

FACT.state troopers in LA held suppies from the superdome on the govenors orders for fear of too many people showing up.

The "joke" is the insane "hate" so many have for thsi administration.

There were thousands of military on the ground in only a few hours. Who do you think evacuated the superdome. And took out the looters.

The size of the disaster was larger than the entire island of england.

My blood boils at the lies and disinformation surrounding this disaster.

Slamming the logistics of mounting the rescure of thousands of square miles in three states compared to a small village in the phillipines is just nosense.



[edit on 19-2-2006 by thermopolis]

Bet it doesn't boil your blood that FEMA prevented food from going in. Or that they jammed police communications when the cops were trying to help the people.

No, you must love that. Anything to lick boots, I guess. I also notice you like that they took care of the "looters," but praised the survival tactics of the "finders." Funny how those words are "colored," isn't it.

The congress is more directly responsible for the Fema "mess" than anyone, they put it under Homeland security, superbeurocracy........

And who spearheaded the push for this nonsensical DHS nightmare? Are you such a die-hard partisan you can't see fault EVERYWHERE in this debacle?

The size of the disaster was larger than the entire island of england.

That's why we have a FEMA in the first place, to get things done during national disasters. Their job is to coordinate relief, and they failed. In fact, everyone failed. Institutions and individuals both.

My blood boils at the lies and disinformation surrounding this disaster.

Likewise, fanboi, though I'm sure we disagree on the particulars regarding whom exactly is lying and disseminating disinfo.

FEMA had a great number of resources that went to waste, everything from water to homes! Right now, more than ten thousands modular homes are rotting in AK fields, because FEMA failed to distribute them to needy families.



If you're going to defend someone's or something's honor, check to make sure there was honor to begin with, before you saddle up. You're defending the indefensible monstrosity that resulted from the incestuous marriage between business and politics. Devil's advocate doesn't even begin to describe it...

Originally posted by truthseeka
Bet it doesn't boil your blood that FEMA prevented food from going in. Or that they jammed police communications when the cops were trying to help the people.

No, you must love that. Anything to lick boots, I guess. I also notice you like that they took care of the "looters," but praised the survival tactics of the "finders." Funny how those words are "colored," isn't it.

Just noticed these "racist" remarks and I will take exception.

The denial of food to hungry people is just "evil", but was being done by the LOCAL governments.

Many NO cops were the looters....documented..fact!

The COPs, had no communications becuase the money to buy sat phones was diverted into local pockets...........FACT

ALL looters in such a disaster stealing plasma TV's needed to be taken out. Thoses looking for food are not looters, they are "survivors".

Your attempt to paint me as a "racist" are offensive, and had I seen it earlier I would have demanded an appology. Now it is just typical on your part............stupid race baiting lunacy............

Just a note............I personally delivered FODD and MEDICINE on my own as a citizen of the united states to the victims and have been directly involved in directing the rescue and clean-up.

Where the hell were YOU????????????

Originally posted by thermopolis

Originally posted by truthseeka
Bet it doesn't boil your blood that FEMA prevented food from going in. Or that they jammed police communications when the cops were trying to help the people.

No, you must love that. Anything to lick boots, I guess. I also notice you like that they took care of the "looters," but praised the survival tactics of the "finders." Funny how those words are "colored," isn't it.

Just noticed these "racist" remarks and I will take exception.

The denial of food to hungry people is just "evil", but was being done by the LOCAL governments.

Many NO cops were the looters....documented..fact!

The COPs, had no communications becuase the money to buy sat phones was diverted into local pockets...........FACT

ALL looters in such a disaster stealing plasma TV's needed to be taken out. Thoses looking for food are not looters, they are "survivors".

Your attempt to paint me as a "racist" are offensive, and had I seen it earlier I would have demanded an appology. Now it is just typical on your part............stupid race baiting lunacy............

Just a note............I personally delivered FODD and MEDICINE on my own as a citizen of the united states to the victims and have been directly involved in directing the rescue and clean-up.

Where the hell were YOU????????????

Here in Texas. Volunteering to help Katrina survivors who fled to my state because their own state wouldn't do squat for them.

I didn't call YOU a racist, but if the shoe fits, you're most welcome to wear it. I was pointing out how the media called the black people looters and the white people finders. But, like you said, they were "surviving...", even though black people who stole mattresses so their family wouldn't have to sleep on the sidewalk were still looters. Gotcha; makes sense to me.

See, I talked to the people who were THERE. THEY were the ones telling me that the govt blew up the levees. THEY were the ones telling me how they were stuck in the Dome and had to use bathrooms with feces all over the place. THEY were the ones telling me that FEMA intentionally screwed things up.

Then, when I read articles saying the same thing, I conclude that FEMA intentionally did this. So don't give me some bull# about being racist, because let me tell ya, this wouldn't have happened to a predominately white area. THEY also told me this too.

Originally posted by truthseeka

See, I talked to the people who were THERE. THEY were the ones telling me that the govt blew up the levees. THEY were the ones telling me how they were stuck in the Dome and had to use bathrooms with feces all over the place. THEY were the ones telling me that FEMA intentionally screwed things up.

Then, when I read articles saying the same thing, I conclude that FEMA intentionally did this. So don't give me some bull# about being racist, because let me tell ya, this wouldn't have happened to a predominately white area. THEY also told me this too.

Thank you for proving my point about those who "talk" and those who "do". I am truely sorry you are in Texas.................

You are right about such filth not happening in white areas......

I am also sorry you can't see how "slanted" your perspective is.......

Again I am very, truely, sorry you are in MY Texas......

Originally posted by thermopolis

Originally posted by truthseeka

See, I talked to the people who were THERE. THEY were the ones telling me that the govt blew up the levees. THEY were the ones telling me how they were stuck in the Dome and had to use bathrooms with feces all over the place. THEY were the ones telling me that FEMA intentionally screwed things up.

Then, when I read articles saying the same thing, I conclude that FEMA intentionally did this. So don't give me some bull# about being racist, because let me tell ya, this wouldn't have happened to a predominately white area. THEY also told me this too.

Thank you for proving my point about those who "talk" and those who "do". I am truely sorry you are in Texas.................

You are right about such filth not happening in white areas......

I am also sorry you can't see how "slanted" your perspective is.......

Again I am very, truely, sorry you are in MY Texas......

Did you read all of my post?

Ah, forget it. I'll leave you to your pipe dreaming.