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US Muslim leaders Object to Mohammed sculpture on top US court

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posted on Feb, 16 2006 @ 03:03 PM
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First it was cartoons, then it was Valentines day they objected too. Now Muslim leaders specifically US Muslim leaders are now objecting to a Marble statue on top of the US Supreme Court.


Mohammed sculpture at top US court draws mild rebuke from US Muslim leaders

Amid an international outcry over cartoons of Mohammed, some American Muslim leaders have expressed concern about depictions of the prophet at US public buildings, including the Supreme Court.

At the same time they draw a sharp contrast between the cartoons, which they consider blasphemous and designed to offend, and statues or sculptures meant to honor Mohammed as a historical figure and lawgiver.

"We have expressed the Muslim community's concerns about a variety of images of the Prophet Mohammed, whether it be in textbooks, editorial cartoons or even in the Supreme Court," Ibrahim Hooper, spokesman for the Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), told AFP.

The sculpture of the prophet at the country's top court is part of a marble frieze depicting 18 influential lawgivers, including Moses, Confucius and Charlemagne.



Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


Now this to me is the straw that breaks the camels back. Come on now the statue has been there since 1935 for crying out load. If you do not like it then get the hell out of the US and don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Enough is enough already, you came here for freedom of speech and religion and you got it, yet you still complain. Give me a break.




posted on Feb, 16 2006 @ 03:05 PM
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Actually it is forbidden to make sculptures of anyone unless neccesairy because it can cause idolizing.



posted on Feb, 16 2006 @ 03:16 PM
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they've objected to it on and off for awhile now, or that's how I understand it. it was decided that they really couldn't do much about it without completely destroying the artistic value of the artpeice and told them sorry, no can do.

but well, if they want to start throwing stones or burning buildings and such (doubt it though, the article I read sounded like the Islamic leaders accepted that decision gracefully), well, can I suggest that we cover Mohammed with a big banner advertising viagra, see if they like that better?



posted on Feb, 16 2006 @ 03:17 PM
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It's been there for almost 75 years.
And I'm sure it
was probably put up there to placate Muslims to begin with
so they wouldn't claim to be disenfranchised.

geeeeeeze. Darned if you do and darned if you don't.



posted on Feb, 16 2006 @ 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by tomcat ha
Actually it is forbidden to make sculptures of anyone unless neccesairy because it can cause idolizing.


Not in this country it is not. Like I said if you/they want to follow their laws, then get the Sam hell out of the US. In other words do not try and jam your/their beliefs down our throats.



posted on Feb, 16 2006 @ 03:39 PM
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Well actually is nowhere in the Koran that prohibits pictures of Mohamed that is more modern views by the more radical muslin and Islam law followers.

Taking in consideration that it has been there for so many years without incident either the US can ignore.

Or because the Administration wants to be so political correct it will let the Radical Islam win again.



[edit on 16-2-2006 by marg6043]



posted on Feb, 16 2006 @ 04:23 PM
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Originally posted by dawnstar
but well, if they want to start throwing stones or burning buildings and such (doubt it though, the article I read sounded like the Islamic leaders accepted that decision gracefully), well, can I suggest that we cover Mohammed with a big banner advertising viagra, see if they like that better?


Great Idea Dawnstar


While we are at it we might as well put 72 virgins right next to it



posted on Feb, 16 2006 @ 04:42 PM
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Originally posted by shots
Not in this country it is not. Like I said if you/they want to follow their laws, then get the Sam hell out of the US. In other words do not try and jam your/their beliefs down our throats.


The President tries to get you to accept his beliefs. Congress wants you to accept their beliefs. Corporations want you to believe that they are the best thing for you. Who the hell isn't pushing beliefs down people's throats?

The point of America is to have the freedom to express these views, and, shots, if you don't like freedom, well, your damn free to express that!

[edit on 16-2-2006 by Jamuhn]



posted on Feb, 16 2006 @ 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043
Or because the Administration wants to be so political correct it will let the Radical Islam win again.


I doubt that will ever happen marg. If they gave into the radicals they would also have to give into the atheists and remove the ten commandments.

Like I said this it going to far. First they get the publisher to apologize for making a joke or I should say publishing a cartoon. Gasp says the radical cleric we cannot have that so lets burn and kill people or sentence them to death and while we are at it lets get them to remove anything that depicts Mohamed in the free world.

I for one do not think the free world will stand for it, hell even the prez only said it was in bad taste, he never condemned the cartoons, the same with the queen of Denmark.

What is next for the PC crowd, do they demand the end to all cartoons and statues of everyone?

[edit on 2/16/2006 by shots]



posted on Feb, 16 2006 @ 04:50 PM
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These people are children, They will find ANYTHING to complain about, the world wont tolerate this BS much longer, /looks to sig.



posted on Feb, 16 2006 @ 05:46 PM
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Originally posted by shots

I doubt that will ever happen marg. If they gave into the radicals they would also have to give into the atheists and remove the ten commandments.



I understand, I am so tired of our nation bending over to please others that I feel like screming at top of my lungs.

Don't you feel the same?



posted on Feb, 16 2006 @ 06:01 PM
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They are going too far now? So burning down consolates, burning down KFC's, Rioting,looting and killing is ALLRIGHT as long as they don't protest the fact that Mohammed is on the supreme court building? Correct me if i'm wrong but these US Muslims did this through legally acceptable means right? Did they attempt to burn down anything in your country yet due to these Cartoons or this particular statue?

Wow Double standards on both extremes. People say Technology is going to ruin the world. HA! It's gonna be the extremists who are gonna do it if they get their way.


So let me get this straight. You think it's all fine and dandy for Christians to protest to NBC to take the Book of Daniel off the air(or at the very least you aren't complaining about it) yet this is a big NONO? I see Freedom of Speech only applies to those who hate Muslim Extremists...(or in general)


[edit on 16-2-2006 by sardion2000]



posted on Feb, 16 2006 @ 06:05 PM
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At least they are being peaceful about it. Probably because they know that rioting crap won't fly so well in the U.S. I just don't get what these people want... Like FlyersFan said... We put it up to make them feel included and it offended them.



posted on Feb, 16 2006 @ 06:05 PM
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Originally posted by LostSailor
At least they are being peaceful about it. Probably because they know that rioting crap won't fly so well in the U.S. I just don't get what these people want... Like FlyersFan said... We put it up to make them feel included and it offended them.


How is this so different then Christians protesting to NBC to take "The Book of Daniel" off the air hmm?



posted on Feb, 16 2006 @ 06:06 PM
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Originally posted by C0le
These people are children, They will find ANYTHING to complain about, the world wont tolerate this BS much longer, /looks to sig.


Cole, I always love your posts, We agree 100%. Heres the situation.

It's only a matter of time before enough americans actaully start getting ticked off. 99% of the time we let it go and dont give a hoot. But they keep pushing and they keep pushing. Eventually the water is gonna boil over and alot of people are gonna get burned. Say goodbye to islam. Sometime in my lifetime, that religion is going to get swept clean, and its not only gonna be by the US, but probably most every democratic country on the planet.

We cannot live in a civil world with islam trying to destroy it every day.

Like Cole said, its only a matter of time!

Train



posted on Feb, 16 2006 @ 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by sardion2000
How is this so different then Christians protesting to NBC to take "The Book of Daniel" off the air hmm?


Christians are rioting? I have no clue what you are talking about my Canadian friend... Why did you ask me this question? I follow religion about as closely as I follow soccer.


Ahh... just noticed you snuck a post in while I was typing my thread. My bad.

[edit on 16-2-2006 by LostSailor]



posted on Feb, 16 2006 @ 06:37 PM
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My replay would be.

we didnt have to let you into this country you came of your free will, knowing our way of life is diffrent to yours, if you dont like it theres the
door watch it doesnt hit you on the way out.

at the end of the day they were invited into the country if they dont like
to look at it, leave.
its like inviting some one into your home and them saying i dont like you
choice of decoration, change it, would you do it ?
i know i wouldnt id basicly skull drag them out of my house and throw them
down the path.

at the end of the day what there complaing about isnt insulting to them or there god and basicly its involving there religion in some of the most important buildings in the US.



posted on Feb, 16 2006 @ 06:59 PM
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It agreed, however, to change literature about the sculpture to refer to Mohammed as the "prophet" rather than the "founder" of Islam.


Here's an idea I got from a Radical Muslim, I saw on the internet Cut Mohammed's head off the wall and send to Mecca. See what kind of response we get from that.


What is a US muslim leader anyway? IF you are not a senator or elected official, go bit** to the ACLU.someone who funnels money home to support terror and spreads their agenda to disenfranchised youth. Read the history of Islam, and you will gain a better understanding why these people act the way they do. The religion itself translated into "submission".Wanns be a part of that NWO?



posted on Feb, 16 2006 @ 07:53 PM
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As long as they protest peacefully I dont have any problems with it, this is Amreica and you have the right to gripe about anything you want too.



posted on Feb, 16 2006 @ 08:10 PM
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It seems to me that in this day people only want freedom for the majority. Anyone who opposes the majority is encouraged to emigrate elsewhere.

On the other side, if we follow the advice of every single minority than there will no be much freedom left.

So, do we lose freedom by relenting to the majority or by relenting to the minority? Why don't we respect the freedom of speech that these people have in this country until they break the law?

Ibrahim Hooper, the spokesman for this US-Islamic Council, is an Islamic convert and is a US citizen. He has as much right to live and voice his opinion in this country as do any of you. None of those who live in the US have extensive histories here, this country was born on immigrants and those who brought their culture to this country from abroad.

This sort of request is something no different from the daily lobbying calls that take place in the US government. But, I guess since this isn't a Christian or Western-based lobbying group, people become vehement in their rebutalls to them.




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