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The only expectation was that I follow my orders when push came to shove, and if you ask me, that is the most democratic thing about the Marine Corps, because in a democracy it is not the place of one man with a rifle to veto the decisions of the elected government.
Originally posted by DaFunk13
We obviously disagree, but both sides are based on reason.
And now that the draft can of worms has been opened...
What is your stance if our military is indeed stretched thin, and a draft may be in our future to continue to win our war on terror? Would you still stand firm that not every supporters can be a soldier? Or at least the able bodied?
But, deep down in your hearts you will know that if you can truely support, and condone the killing of a fellow human being for reasons that have been spoon-fed to you by a gov't that only seeks to control you in every aspect for their good and not your own...you are ignorant...blinded...and lost...
Think of it in terms of a chess board; some times you've gotta go out of your way to rub out a pawn; not because that pawn is going to checkmate you, but because something more important is being protected or obstructed by that pawn.
Originally posted by Jakomo
The Vagabond:
Think of it in terms of a chess board; some times you've gotta go out of your way to rub out a pawn; not because that pawn is going to checkmate you, but because something more important is being protected or obstructed by that pawn.
Yep, a chess game involving the lives which your government decides are "expendable". The pawn that you brush away is actually somebody with a family that loves him/her, and a whole world of possibilities.
That pawn is the American or Iraqi writhing on the ground in pain, trying to keep his intestines in his ruined belly through bloody fingers. Losing bowel control in his last moments of life and crying for his mother to help. Weeping and finally dying.
Those people in the Twin Towers were just silly pawns. Forget about them already and move on, huh? It's just a simple game of chess and they were pawns in the wrong sector of the board. Big whoop.
Originally posted by Toadmund
And to know when not to play chess at all, and not start new chess games is a good rule of thumb as well.
Originally posted by Toadmund
If the objective was to get the 911 perpetrators, why wasn't Saudi Arabia attacked, or Why wasn't more effort put into Afghanistan?
Seems like everytime someone tries to justify the Iraq war, a different reason is given, that's called flip-flopping.
If the strived for objective is to steal their oil, then it makes sense.
While those who dream of a Utopia cry their eyes out for the casualties of reality, the pragmatists, who understand the what should be, what can be, and what will be are 3 distinct things, are going to take reality for what it is and take that pawn, however many lives it may represent, just as long as that destruction is working against the potential for even greater destruction, and they're right to do so.
I know who the pawn is; I enlisted to be one of them, because taking the risk of being one of a few thousand who take the fall to insure that millions of other lives are not threatened is worth while.
Originally posted by grover
if we are so powerful, when was the last time the national guard was called up to fight a foreign war? It certianly wasn't Vietnam
During the Vietnam war, almost 23,000 Army and Air Guardsmen were called up for a year of active duty; some 8,700 were deployed to Vietnam. Over 75,000 Army and Air Guardsmen were called upon to help bring a swift end to Desert Storm in 1991.
Since that time, the National Guard has seen the nature of its Federal mission change, with more frequent call ups in response to crises in Haiti, Bosnia, Kosovo, and the skies over Iraq