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Religiously offensive cartoons must be outlawed...

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posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 06:26 PM
Here is an other cartoon of the cartoons published in Denmark's Jyllands-Posten

It does even NOT show Muhammad at all! But the drawer has a death threat.

It needed the fabrication of truly anti-Islam cartoons by Danish imams to deliberately inciting Muslims to violence.

posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 06:44 PM
It is the offensive speech which needs protecting. If you outlaw offensive speech you don't have freedom of speech. You are half way to dihimmitude if you want Islam to get a special pass of things offensive to it.

posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 06:51 PM
I agree with the professor. Anything that offends anyone for any reason should be banned immediately and under punishment of death these new laws must be implemented immediately. Furthermore, when anyone passes a religious painting, statue or written statement about religion they must fall to their knees and face some direction demanded by any religion on earth, so that if by the time all religions have decided what direction is particularly holy, all the directions on the compass are required the passerby must spend sufficient time so as not to offend any true believer who happens by. We should also ignore the evidence that Mohammad tried Camel Train Robbery after he arrived in Mecca and fell in with a bunch of Camel Train Robbers. Apparently after two major failures the boys asked Mohammad to remain home and wax eloquently on things religious and they would resume the lucrative profession of thievery.
Either this or we could just ban the pronouncement by true believers as to what offends them and get on with life. In fact, why not ban religion altogether. That way a lot of needless killing and carnage would disappear as it would be unnecessary. We could do without every airhead telling everybody what offends them. We could also require that every religion provide a joke a week with their religious fantasy as the butt of the joke. If a religion did not make an honest effort to provide funny jokes we could just force the true believers to re-indoctrinate each other ad infinitum with each true believer lecturing all the others for eight hour a day until every true believer on earth either was re-indoctrinated or just decided to opt out of the silly mess altogether.
I’m for the second idea, but I hope we keep our humor and if our fantasies cause observers to pop funnies at us, so be it.
One more thing; I am offended by everybody assuming that they must tell us what offends them, ad infinitum.
Up with Denmark and down with intolerance.

posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 07:03 PM
for people who want freedom of speech

if I say hi your mom is a bitch, your dad is a, so you still feel good, right?

I have no idea what those muslim think, but I guess probably Muhammed is more important that their moms.

posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 07:21 PM

Originally posted by Flyer
If he hes had enough violence and hate, maybe he should forget harmless cartoons and do something about his fellow muslims killing each other and providing false information trying to spur hate onto European countries.

Instead of outlawing anything offensive to religions, Id outlaw the religions itself because they promote far more hate than any newspaper could.

Were is the Muslim outrage, when one of their brothers cuts the head of an innocent person. These people need to get out of the 12th century and join the real world. I agree with outlawing religions. I believe a persons faith is personal. To believe in GOD or not to believe is the indviduals choice. Whatever your have no right to impose that belief on others. Now here is where I'll be attacked. I know it, but I have to say it. If these people are so inclinded to throw stones to destroy things, maybe we should blow them back to the stoneage, that is obviously where they are living. If you want to join the world community, then please...join the 21st century. Otherwise, the civilized world has no use for you!!

posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 08:04 PM
Bring on more cartoons it's humor. Laugh or don't but don't resort to violence. They can burn the american flag in the streets, riot, kill, suicide bomb, maim... and they can't take a joke? Knock Knock, Who's there? *Whistles* Who? BOOM! Just kidding I can't say we should turn the middle east into a glass bowl there are people there that want freedom and want to smile and laugh but there are alot that don't and will do whatever they can to stop it. There isn't much we can do, I say what we do is this. Build a big friggin wall around those countries; put outposts where people who want to leave can but they have to be able to laugh at a joke

posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 08:25 PM
This is cartoons is off the ADL website and is really not that offensive

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posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 08:45 PM
Religiously offensive cartoons must be outlawed

You have got to be kidding, the US was founded on freedom of religion and speech. No way in hell can they take that away from us our constitution gurantees us those freedoms.

posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 09:02 PM

Originally posted by darkhero
for people who want freedom of speech

if I say hi your mom is a bitch, your dad is a, so you still feel good, right?

That is a little thing we call 'slander'.


Why is this topic in the War On Terrorism forum? Where does the terrorism come in?

[edit on 15-2-2006 by ihatescifi]

posted on Feb, 16 2006 @ 04:02 AM
What I don't understand is the double standard. Look, entire countries (and for that matter belief systems) are being targeted for the acts of a few individuals, those being the one that created the cartoons along with those that made the call to go ahead and publish them. So in the minds of SOME Muslims, this gives them the right to condemn entire nations, commit crimes against them and demand that everyone everywhere change some of their most basic precepts of their rights (freedom of speech, etc.) for these actions that perhaps in the minds of many they are condemning may have gone to far.

Not eveyone, even the strongest defenders of freedom of speech, and certainly not everyone in these countries that are being targeted would have the bad taste, disrepect, etc., to have done what was done. But they do have the right to if they choose.

Certainly the rest of the world is expected to exercise restraint in such matters, as in, we can't condemn all Muslims (not even in the countries where massive amounts of Muslims are behaving beyond the realm of a civilized world) and we wouldn't. Simply because it's not the right thing to do, and also because after years of having political correctness drilled into our brains we wouldn't dare.

Not only is this a double standard that is being ignored, but now we have suppossedly progressive western nations where one would never expect freedom of speech to be curtailed being curtailed? (I believe there is a thread about Sweden? putting the kabash on publishing the cartoons).

It's no longer just not a two way street, things ARE being dictated in response to this mess. Perhaps a wise thing to do to protect there own people from ending up at the wrong end of this now very out of control and dangerous situation, but come on - the unreasonable ones are using fear to break us down. Where will this end?

Meanwhile, heaven forbid anyone anywhere else in the world condemn the entire Muslim faith and people over this (which would be the same as the what these particular Muslims are in fact doing).

The worst part is if the rest of the world decided to say enough of all of you Muslims, there would be a huge human rights outcry from within the nations that perpetrated it.

Again, where are the Muslims that should be curtailling their own, just as many would curtail our own if a broad sweeping condemnation of them came out of western nation? They are taking advantage of an extremely dangerous double standard that we have chosen as a civilized society to give them, and guess what - it's working.

I really think we are slowly being duped into a crisis that will erode our freedoms over time.

It's time for everyone to stand together and say grow up, learn to deal maturely with your personal offense and live in world of reality - that being - feeling offended does not a right make.

Of course, the problem being, we are well on the way to eroding this on our own just by setting the standards of polictical correctness and allowing people who feel offended to actually take it to court. The lines are getting fuzzy folks, and it's not a warm fuzzy.

posted on Feb, 16 2006 @ 04:23 AM

Originally posted by Relentless
Again, where are the Muslims that should be curtailling their own, just as many would curtail our own if a broad sweeping condemnation of them came out of western nation?

It's happening, it's out there. It just doesn't get as much coverage as say...angry protestors in Pakistan or the re-release of Abu Ghraib prisoner photos.

Bad news gets more ratings. Besides, people like to get hung-up on the negative side of things.

Also we humans tend to attribute bad stuff that happens to ourselves to something external while if it happens to others, it's definitely their fault. It's a pretty natural reaction. It's called fundamental attribution error.

posted on Feb, 16 2006 @ 04:48 AM
Helium, here is what you need to do.

You need to tell me why it is that you think that because Riwka displays her flag, she cannot show support for Denmark's stance in favor of freedom of speech.
You need to tell me why only other people may pick a side.
You need to tell me why what her having an opinion has to do with the "Palestinians" choosing naziism.

As a matter of fact, as many Storm Fronters we have chased out of here, you need to tell me why it is you feel you have the audacity to say such a thing and display an avatar indicating support of Hitler and not drown in irony at the same time.

While you think about your new, not-supporting-StormFront avatar, why don't you tell me exactly what groups of people, or nationalities of people, are allowed, in your mind, to support the freedom of speech.
Might it be only those who aren't Jews? Tell me, would you even whittle it down to simple those who agree with the Amam who spread false cartoons and hated throughout the world? Would you prefer to be the Grand Master of Speech Censor who determines who is allowed to stand up for the freedom of speech?

you know as well as I that Riwka is standing solid with the Danish stance on the Freedom of Speech, and that she agrees that the Danish government does not have to apologize for what private news agencies print.
You know this to be true. If you do not, you are sorrowfully brainwashed and misled, and that is a shame.

In the mean time, explain why your avatar would indicate the possibility that you support a monstrous and murderous man and his defunct government of criminals and pathetically sick cowards why at the same time say that this woman and her flag has no room in the discussion of free speech.

You cannot defend this. Please, try; I need a laugh after reading your sickeningly familiar BS, circa 1940.

[edit on 16-2-2006 by Thomas Crowne]

posted on Feb, 16 2006 @ 06:22 AM
When they stop burning flags and rioting and threatning to kill people and burn buildings and and and hmmmm lots of and on one side........ ie muslims

and what for for a drawing they did all that LOL deary me BAN Islam in the WEST would make WEST a better place in my opinion nothing but trouble Islam is.

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