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Steyn On Demographics (or why the US will stay on top)

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posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 12:50 PM
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MY interest in demography dates back to September 11, 2001, when a demographic group I hadn't hitherto given much thought managed to get my attention. I don't mean the, ah, unfortunate business with the planes and buildings and so forth, but the open cheering of the attacks by their co-religionists in Montreal, Yorkshire, Copenhagen and elsewhere. How many people knew there were fast-growing and culturally confident Muslim populations in Scandinavia?

Demography doesn't explain everything but it accounts for a good 90 per cent. The "who" is the best indicator of the what-where-when-and-why. Go on, pick a subject. Will Japan's economy return to the heady days of the 1980s when US businesses cowered in terror? Answer: No. Japan is exactly the same as it was in its heyday except for one fact: it stopped breeding and its population aged. Will China be the hyperpower of the 21st century? Answer: No. Its population will get old before it gets rich.

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But Australia, like the US, is genuinely multicultural, at least in the sense that its immigration is not from a single overwhelming source. The remorseless transformation of Eutopia into Eurabia is already prompting the Dutch to abandon their country in record numbers, for Canada and New Zealand.

In the years ahead, North America and Australia will have the pick of European talent and a chance to learn the lessons of its self-extinction, as they apply to abortion and much else.



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posted on Feb, 17 2006 @ 06:02 AM
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enjoy


dominionpaper.ca...

(and this was wrote 3 years ago)

nationalpriorities.org...

this figure is due to reach $251 billion by march31 2006 (iran is next)!! -

. china will no doubt knock you off your perch within the next 10/20 years, they have the fastest growing economy in the world, tipped to be the next 'superpower'

. european countrys are almost on par with america in military terms now, technology wise your not as far ahead as you was 20 years ago in the military department (check out the weapons and aircraft forums).

. its a well known fact a lot of americans are in fear of the EU and the infulence it has on the world (seems you included by all the posts you are making)


type in on google "the decline and fall of america" and you'll find LOADS of websites about it - *points and laughs* you'll soon be a 3rd world country and immigrating to europe, deal with it



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posted on Feb, 17 2006 @ 09:27 AM
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That’s a funny article. Here’s the funniest part:

“Airbus is about to surpass Boeing -- the most important transportation medium for personnel traffic in the modern global economy is about to be manufactured primarily in Europe.”

Boeing is handing Airbust their rear-ends. They snookered them into building that giant white elephant only to then to produce an aircraft that can travel non-stop to any two points in the world. 2005 was Boeing’s best sales year ever.

The gap between US and Europian military power is growing. Consider; Europe sails one nuclear powered aircraft carrier (Charles De gaulle) While the US Sails 12. Europe is finally fielding an aircraft that can match the F15 (Euro Fighter, Rafael), a fighter that first flew more than 30 years ago. Who do you think protects the sea lanes? America is the only true blue water navy in the world.

If Indonesia decided only ships flying their flag could use their waters, who would stop them? France? Germany? England nearly lost to the Argentines.

The idea that Japan is going to be a world power with such an aging population is preposterous. They have one of the fastest aging populations in the industrial world. No country can be world power when is comprised of retirees.

At the moment, America’s median age is roughly the same as Europe's (36 against 38). By 2050, according to Bill Frey of the Brookings Institution, a think-tank, America's median age will still be around 36, but Europe's will have risen to 53 (and China's will be 44). In the 1990s, America took in the largest number of immigrants it had ever seen in one decade: 33m people now living in the country were born outside it, and Latinos have become the largest ethnic group. “America,” says Hania Zlotnik of the United Nations Population Division, “is the world's great demographic outlier.”

Then there is the technology gap. Each year, more patents are applied for in America than in the European Union. America has almost three times as many Nobel prize-winners than the next country (Britain), and spends more on research and development than any other country. On one measure of academic performance, over 90 of the world's top 100 universities are in America.

Europe and America have also been diverging economically, though one should be cautious about that. In the seven years from 1995 to 2001, real GDP rose by 3.3% a year in America but by only 2.5% a year in the European Union. The bursting of the stockmarket bubble and the subsequent recession reversed this pattern—in 2001, GDP growth was higher in Europe than America—but the gap opened up again as the economies recovered. On current estimates and forecasts, growth in America in the three years to 2004 will average 1.3 percentage points a year more than in the 12-country euro area. Some 60% of the world's economic growth since 1995 has come from America.

No country that can barely brake 1% GDP growth (France, Germany) is going to be a world power any place, any time. China’s GDP growth is primarly because its an emerging economy, that is most people in China are buying their first car, refrigerator and TV. The US is a replacement economy, that is, nearly everyone already has those things and they get new one when they wear out.

Sorry st3ve_o, lots of Europe is in demographic death spiral. The numbers are not in dispute. The portion of the European population that has an above replacement birth rate are the Muslims.

By mid century, Europe will be Muslim and China will be old.



posted on Feb, 17 2006 @ 10:16 AM
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i'm just going to write a quick reply because i've got to get ready to go out clubbing!!

ok you keep going on about muslims living in europe, here in britain we have approx 1.8 million muslims living in this country out of our 60 million population.

compare that of america (estimated) 7 million muslims out of your 300 million population (the figures are not too much different) yet thats a point you keep bringing up all the time


britain (not england) never NEARLY lost against argentina in the falklands!! the war lasted 6 weeks before the argentines surrended and it was known as a great sucess over here


compare that with vietnam (lost) - your country as never won a war ON ITS OWN thoughout your whole history *points and laughs*


even in iraq look how you struggled with baghdad
and look our us brits controled basra straight away, america as the best equpiment but your troops are useless


vietnam proved this, you got beat by a country with WW1 technology!!


about america's techlogical advange over europe in the military department, again i'll just put that down to your biased point of views!!

look up our new type45 destroyers in the weapons section, you now don't have the best ships of the waves anymore


aircraft, go to many forums and many believe that the Tornado GR.4 is still one of the best strike aircraft in the world, F-35 in development (yes it is being made in the US) but still it will be part of the british forces, + other aircrafts in development (ie UCAVs)

and thats just the UK - but you seem to judge europe as one country for some reason!! :@@ - but as said the US is still in front (military terms) but the gap is closing all the time
and your not in front as your led to believe.

anyway thats all i'm going to say now, as said ive got to get ready to go out, i'll reply to your other points tomorrows.

(like the society we are) - i'm going to dance to some medieval music and stuff pull some medieval chicks too.

later


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posted on Feb, 17 2006 @ 11:48 AM
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England doesn't have a Muslim problem? Really?





posted on Feb, 17 2006 @ 09:51 PM
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hey-up dude, you'll have to forgive me, its nearly 4am here and ive just had a gallon of beer!!

ok you show me a pic of some muslims, yet i don't know what your trying to get at!!

1 min u say muslims will be the downfall of europe (ive proved you wrong),

then the next min you say 'yeah europe doesn't have a muslim problem' and you show me 3 muslims holding signs up!! - yet YOUR muslims (trained in your country) to fly a plane and then they shagged you up your own ar-se and put one through one of your famious landmarks!! (9/11)

dude, to me you live in the 1950's because you say muslims will be the downfall of europe, britain as probably as the highest population of muslims (in europe) yet we have only 1.8 million out of 60 million population who are muslims here (we know who we are).

but we are proud who we are, britain is a multi-cultural country, same as america (theres more blacks in america than white).

but you you say muslims will be the downfall!! - 50 years ago white people was saying the same thing in your racist country when martin luther king made his famious speach - it was only LAW in america which stopped racism, us lot we stopped it BY OURSELFS.

you STILL live in that era!! -

us brits WAS in that era (100 years ago) when we was an emprie, we was the cruelest most evil *beeps* in the world!!

but we have evolved (your still behind) - we believe in equal rights, nobody does more for charities than us and it will be us who ends poverty in africa,

thats what puts the GREAT into 'GREAT' britain!!



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posted on Feb, 19 2006 @ 09:44 AM
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The problem with european muslim comunities is that they are radical and poor. In comparison US muslims are almost equal in financial situation to whites and most of them are moderate (even the 9/11 attackers came from EU). Especially muslims in UK and nordic countries will prepare big problems for EU in the future. But it's UK (and Danish and Sweden) fault - they provided political asylum for many radical muslim individuals. But the highest muslim population has not UK but France and Germany. For example in France there are at least 6 milions muslims and every 3rd child born is muslim, which means in future 1/3 of French will be muslims. They are more integrated to the society than in UK, though, but who knows what will happen in future?



posted on Feb, 19 2006 @ 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by st3ve_o
. china will no doubt knock you off your perch within the next 10/20 years, they have the fastest growing economy in the world, tipped to be the next 'superpower'


Not exactly china may equal the US economy in size but its GDP per capita will still far beneath were americans are at now and will be farther behind were americans will be at in the next 20yrs.


Originally posted by St3ve_o
. european countrys are almost on par with america in military terms now, technology wise your not as far ahead as you was 20 years ago in the military department (check out the weapons and aircraft forums).


Debatable at the best. What I've seen in the aircraft forum doesn't impress me in the slightest.

Euro Fighter Typhoon- Big deal you finally equalled the F-15 thirty years to late.

Rafale- Even the French admit the Super Hornet is better and we came out with that over ten years ago.



Originally posted by St3ve_o
. its a well known fact a lot of americans are in fear of the EU and the infulence it has on the world (seems you included by all the posts you are making)


Please is this the same EU that virtually imploded with the failure of its constitution



Originally posted by St3ve_o
type in on google "the decline and fall of america" and you'll find LOADS of websites about it - *points and laughs* you'll soon be a 3rd world country and immigrating to europe, deal with it


Dream on St3ve_o. You've got enough problems in Eurabia without wanting to bring us yanks over don't you.



posted on Feb, 19 2006 @ 03:55 PM
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Originally posted by st3ve_o
ok you keep going on about muslims living in europe, here in britain we have approx 1.8 million muslims living in this country out of our 60 million population.


Alot of the muslims in your country are asylum seekers how fled their countries due to their radical beliefs.


Originally posted by St3ve_o
compare that of america (estimated) 7 million muslims out of your 300 million population (the figures are not too much different) yet thats a point you keep bringing up all the time


Most of the muslims that come to the US come here for the same reasons everybody else did. To make a better life for them and their families.


Originally posted by St3ve_o
compare that with vietnam (lost) - your country as never won a war ON ITS OWN thoughout your whole history *points and laughs*


You need a history lesson my friend. We fight and won the Mexican War
1846-48 on by ourselves.

Mexican War

We fight and won our own Civil War

US Civil War

And for the hat trick how about the Spanish-American War.

Spanish-American War

You should really educate yourself before your shoot your mouth off.


Originally posted by St3ve_o
even in iraq look how you struggled with baghdad
and look our us brits controled basra straight away, america as the best equpiment but your troops are useless


Again you need to do more research the British army took Basra on April 6 2003 thats less than a week before we took Baghdad. We marched far faster and fought more of the enemy than you did pal.


Originally posted by St3ve_o
vietnam proved this, you got beat by a country with WW1 technology!!



These people beat you with stone-age weapons.

Mau-mau


Originally posted by St3ve_o
about america's techlogical advange over europe in the military department, again i'll just put that down to your biased point of views!!


I'll put your opinions down to your inferiority complex


Originally posted by St3ve_o
look up our new type45 destroyers in the weapons section, you now don't have the best ships of the waves anymore


Wow and your buying 6 maybe 8. [sarcasm]Looks like Britainia rules the waves again[/sarcasm]


Originally posted by St3ve_o
aircraft, go to many forums and many believe that the Tornado GR.4 is still one of the best strike aircraft in the world, F-35 in development (yes it is being made in the US) but still it will be part of the british forces, + other aircrafts in development (ie UCAVs)


You finally got it right St3ve_o. Buy American



Originally posted by St3ve_o
and thats just the UK - but you seem to judge europe as one country for some reason!! :@@ - but as said the US is still in front (military terms) but the gap is closing all the time
and your not in front as your led to believe.


Your right europe isn't one country. Makes all the more easy to dominate
As far as closing the gap here are some stats for you.

Miltary Expenditures


Originally posted by St3ve_o
(like the society we are) - i'm going to dance to some medieval music and stuff pull some medieval chicks too.


Only men go to those things man. But once you get sloshed you probably won't be able to tell the difference



posted on Feb, 19 2006 @ 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by st3ve_o
hey-up dude, you'll have to forgive me, its nearly 4am here and ive just had a gallon of beer!!


I knew it



Originally posted by St3ve_o
ok you show me a pic of some muslims, yet i don't know what your trying to get at!!


He's showing you that while you've been trying to compete with the US of A you've been infiltrated by a very nasty element that wants to kill you and
complete the Islamic conquest of europe they began centuries ago.


Originally posted by St3ve_o
1 min u say muslims will be the downfall of europe (ive proved you wrong),


I don't think so


Originally posted by St3ve_o
then the next min you say 'yeah europe doesn't have a muslim problem' and you show me 3 muslims holding signs up!! - yet YOUR muslims (trained in your country) to fly a plane and then they shagged you up your own ar-se and put one through one of your famious landmarks!! (9/11)


Actuallty none of those muslims came from the US. In fact alot of them were educated in europe, oh sorry eurabia


Originally posted by St3ve_o
dude, to me you live in the 1950's because you say muslims will be the downfall of europe, britain as probably as the highest population of muslims (in europe) yet we have only 1.8 million out of 60 million population who are muslims here (we know who we are).


Wrong France and Germany have higher islamic populations than Britain does.


Originally posted by St3ve_o
but we are proud who we are, britain is a multi-cultural country, same as america (theres more blacks in america than white).


Actually blacks only make up about 10% of the population. Whites make up over 50%


Originally posted by St3ve_o
but you you say muslims will be the downfall!! - 50 years ago white people was saying the same thing in your racist country when martin luther king made his famious speach - it was only LAW in america which stopped racism, us lot we stopped it BY OURSELFS.


Big difference my friend. The civil rights movement was largely peaceful and Martin Luther King never went out on the streets and said lets all kill whitey for being an infidel did he. In fact you comparing the Civil Rights movement too these thugs and murders as quite frankly disgusting.


Originally posted by St3ve_o
you STILL live in that era!!


When was the last time you were in america?


Originally posted by St3ve_o
us brits WAS in that era (100 years ago) when we was an emprie, we was the cruelest most evil *beeps* in the world!!


Were in it for different reasons


Originally posted by St3ve_o
but we have evolved (your still behind) - we believe in equal rights, nobody does more for charities than us and it will be us who ends poverty in africa,


Only becasue you couldn't keep doing it. If you still possessed the ability you would still be out pillaging and conquering. As far as Africa you do it to make yourselves feel good. You send a small amount of money to africa then you blow billions on Galileo and the CAP please.



posted on Feb, 19 2006 @ 06:08 PM
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Were in it for different reasons


matter of opinion, i actually believe america's in decline (do a search on my posts ive gave my reason there) all in all, in a last ditch effort to save its LONG TERM FUTURE your trying to control the middle east oil fields





Only becasue you couldn't keep doing it. If you still possessed the ability you would still be out pillaging and conquering. As far as Africa you do it to make yourselves feel good. You send a small amount of money to africa then you blow billions on Galileo and the CAP please.


africa, we'll contenue doing that my friend
and we'll carry on leading the climate issue (like the world leader we are)!! you carry on driving your big ass cars and poluting the atmosfear.



Only men go to those things man. But once you get sloshed you probably won't be able to tell the difference


yep, where more men then you'll ever be m8
so yes we drink mans beer over here, not piss-water like you drink (ive heard about american beer)
- we have stronger shandy.


Alot of the muslims in your country are asylum seekers how fled their countries due to their radical beliefs.


agreed, but you have them fleeing in from the middle-east too, + on boats from south america, twice as much fun eh!!





Dream on St3ve_o. You've got enough problems in Eurabia without wanting to bring us yanks over don't you.


too right
i rather have eurabia than cowboy land, and with american mentality over here we might have president arnold schwarzenegger
geez and your country as nuclear weapons too





Wow and your buying 6 maybe 8. [sarcasm]Looks like Britainia rules the waves again[/sarcasm]


yup, new subs/new carriers - gotta love that jealiously though





These people beat you with stone-age weapons.

Mau-mau


we don't know defeat


www.hartford-hwp.com...



Again you need to do more research the British army took Basra on April 6 2003 thats less than a week before we took Baghdad. We marched far faster and fought more of the enemy than you did pal.


yet americans history is wrong again
(look here transcript from your own newstation)


transcripts.cnn.com...

its a well known fact britain controled basra straight away while american troops struggled to keep control in baghdad, even one of your commanders went on air and said "maybe we should take a leaf out of the british's book in basra"

there was also reports over here that america was going to ask from british help in baghdad, all that friendly fire too
- (no american lifes was lost by the british) your useless mate!!

americas mentality fire 100 missles off and HOPEFULLY 1 will hit, never hear us missing our targets.

your troops would get pasted if you ever had a conflict with an established nation, just like vietnam.



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posted on Feb, 19 2006 @ 06:58 PM
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America in decline. Not IMO but you have a right to yours. America has been hand alot worse than we've taken in Iraq and we still come back for more. Tenacious little bastards aren't we.

So your going to continue to waste money on the CAP and on useless projects like Galileo. And just pay lip service to Africa ok I get it. As far as the climate issue you maybe leading but no ones following.


St3ve_o I actually don't drink any beer tastes like piss were ever its from. As far as being more manly I won't get into a pissing contest with you. Especially with howmuch you've had to drink


Most of the people who to the US are economic refugees. Were ever they are from. I haven't heard about to many Latin terrorists. But I love the Latina's

Well then here's to the new Eurabia. But you do know the muslims really don't tolerate alcohol well.

Hey it fine if you Brits want to build your navy back up we want have to pull your weight around anymore.


You've been defeated a number of times my friend but denial can be a way of dealing with traumatic events give it time.

Well as far as the Brits in Basra they did do a good job but then again they didn't have to deal with the Sunni triangle know did they. You Brits got the easy assignment.

And as far as being useless you need to take a chill pill my friend. Everytime someone disagrees with you you call them useless that my friend is pathetic.



posted on Feb, 20 2006 @ 03:33 AM
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It's a rather silly aspect to this 'debate' that demographic changes are almost always viewed through such a narrow perspective.

For instance the insistence that just because a particular immigrant group has a birth-rate at a particular high level when it first arrives at a particular country that they will sustain this rate.

The (observed) truth is that this is said of all immigrant groups when they first come and yet within a few decades their reproduction rates end up matching those of the 'host' community.
Hardly surprising given the fact they all face the same cost of living etc etc.

Equally the notion that any of the EU countries face being 'taken over' on the basis of a Muslim population which does not exceed 10% in any of them is, quite frankly, laughable (and to claim similar of the UK where the Muslim population is approx 3% of our total population is, once again, just as laughable).

Sorry to interrupt with a few facts, feel free to carry on with this pointless pissing contest if you must.......



posted on Feb, 20 2006 @ 10:10 AM
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America in decline. Not IMO but you have a right to yours. America has been hand alot worse than we've taken in Iraq and we still come back for more. Tenacious little bastards aren't we.


I hope your right, as said in other posts - i think america as a lot of potential but i just wish it would live upto its 'potential' and be a world leader (something it clearly isn't)!!



So your going to continue to waste money on the CAP and on useless projects like Galileo. And just pay lip service to Africa ok I get it. As far as the climate issue you maybe leading but no ones following.


wrong, many countrys are taking steps to reduce climate change and greenhouse-gas reduction, but as usual the main problem is to convice the US of A (who are also the main polluters)




St3ve_o I actually don't drink any beer tastes like piss were ever its from. As far as being more manly I won't get into a pissing contest with you. Especially with howmuch you've had to drink


Its good to know you won't have a pissing contest with me, i think i'm a bit too old for those games anyway, but you lot carry on drinking it if you like - your astronauts seem to like it!!





Most of the people who to the US are economic refugees. Were ever they are from. I haven't heard about to many Latin terrorists. But I love the Latina's


we love muslims, as said britain isn't a racist country (unlike you yanks) we don't look at ALL muslims as terriorts, thats like saying all 'whites' were nazis in the world war.




Well then here's to the new Eurabia. But you do know the muslims really don't tolerate alcohol well.


*holds glass up* 'to the new Eurabia' - and your right they don't!! they drive us home in the taxi's at the end of the night.



Hey it fine if you Brits want to build your navy back up we want have to pull your weight around anymore.


you never have! (both gulf wars/falklands) - we don't need your help, but lets hope you don't have another hurricane this year though huh? because that way 'Eurabia' won't have to send supplys and donations AGAIN.




You've been defeated a number of times my friend but denial can be a way of dealing with traumatic events give it time.


99% we've always won though, our record beats any other country!!




Well as far as the Brits in Basra they did do a good job but then again they didn't have to deal with the Sunni triangle know did they. You Brits got the easy assignment.


you've soon changed your tune
- but i suppose a bumhurt american would say that!! - i suppose we had the 'easyer' assignments in combat too huh? the next thing you'll say is 'we was in your way' in all the ^so called^ friendly fire




And as far as being useless you need to take a chill pill my friend. Everytime someone disagrees with you you call them useless that my friend is pathetic.


only speaking the truth
in my view american troops are pretty useless, they are hardly the best in the world.



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posted on Feb, 20 2006 @ 02:21 PM
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Awww...
US scared that the rapid decline of their Union is coming? *drops a tear* US is on a knife edge, is only a matter of time before the "bank breaks".

America's paranoia is what will drive you to decline..

Not long to those boys in red are the superpower



posted on Feb, 20 2006 @ 02:32 PM
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You say were not living up to our potential as a world leader. And I would have to say your right. But that really doesn't bother me. You know why? Because I don't want the US to be running around the world solving everyone else problems when we have plenty here at home. We are doing what the Uk, France and every other country does, looking out for its own interests first and I have to say its about time.

The countries that are following you have very littke to lose by following you. As far as the US being the worlds largest polluters it is true we are currently the leading polluter but were not going to hold that title for long.

China's pollution


Actually your stereotypes of american thinking are pretty weak my friend. Most americans don't think of muslims as terrorists. You know why because we live next to them just like you. In fact my neighbor is a muslim and I like him alot. In fact I'd say we get along with muslims better here than you do in your country. I can't remember the time any muslim ever got up in this country and applauded Bin Laden however in your country it seems to be a daily occurence. As far as the US being a racist country my friend you need to take a good look in the mirror before you start throwing garbage like that around.

UK race riots

I don't think in the new Eurabia its going to be the same old immigrant servitude that your use to my friend. I'd be carefull about who you hold that glass around my friend under sharia law its costumary to cut off the hand of those in possesion of alcohol I believe.

As far as US troops being useless I wonder why it is then everytime you Brits or Euros see a problem whether it be Bosnia, Kosovo or any other hell hole on this planet you call on us to fix the problem?



posted on Feb, 20 2006 @ 02:41 PM
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Huh Huh Infinite. I'm not scared if a US decline you know why? Because its not going to happen. Are economy is dynamic compared to your's. I mean when are economic production falls below 2% we worry when your gets above 1% you jump for joy. Are population is hard working and still relatively young while yours is lazy, ageing rapidly and complains that they can't work 32 hour weeks and then retire at 40.

For those reasons I'm not worried about america's decline. And even if it turns out that we won't be the only superpower on the block I am certain europe for the forementioned reasons above won't be the one replaceing us.

You Euro's love to predict the fall of america just as much as we like to poo poo the EU. Guess it shows were not that different my friend.



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forget it,
cant be bothered to waste my time

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posted on Feb, 20 2006 @ 03:42 PM
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Well your wasting my time with posts like that. Next I hope you have something meanful and intelligent to add



posted on Feb, 21 2006 @ 08:20 AM
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Originally posted by danwild6

You say were not living up to our potential as a world leader. And I would have to say your right. But that really doesn't bother me. You know why? Because I don't want the US to be running around the world solving everyone else problems when we have plenty here at home. We are doing what the Uk, France and every other country does, looking out for its own interests first and I have to say its about time.


yep we can all see that, (alfganistan, iraq, iran, maybe syria) - your govenment may fool your OWN people by saying 'war on terrisom' but anyone with half of brain-cell knows their true goal, funny enough makes me wonder how the US can finance another war (especially if its as costly as iraq).

i suppose thats what makes you proud of the good ol US of A though, huh? invading small defencess countrys for oil, i just hope britain isn't apart of the party in iran - in a strange way 9/11 was the best thing that ever happened to you, gave your government the perfect excuse!!


have you ever seen polls? more people think george bush is more of a threat to the world than terrorism itself.


Originally posted by danwild6
The countries that are following you have very littke to lose by following you. As far as the US being the worlds largest polluters it is true we are currently the leading polluter but were not going to hold that title for long.

China's pollution



wow american mentality AGAIN, i suppose its ok then? afterall your not the HIGHEST polluters in the atmosfear, so carrying on doing it



Originally posted by danwild6
Actually your stereotypes of american thinking are pretty weak my friend. Most americans don't think of muslims as terrorists. You know why because we live next to them just like you. In fact my neighbor is a muslim and I like him alot. In fact I'd say we get along with muslims better here than you do in your country. I can't remember the time any muslim ever got up in this country and applauded Bin Laden however in your country it seems to be a daily occurence. As far as the US being a racist country my friend you need to take a good look in the mirror before you start throwing garbage like that around.


i don't think my evaluation of a typical american is weak at all!! since the emergence of the internet 15 years ago, everyone can see in FIRST HAND the attitude of a 'typical american'!! - before the internet people could only go on what they thought.

but you know its funny - your saying america's not a racist country/your saying your not racist!! yet it seems in EVERY SINGLE POST your mention 'Eurabia' and how only ^british^ muslims only want to live here so they can promote radical behavior. To me thats calling EVERY british muslim a 'terrorist'.


Originally posted by danwild6
I don't think in the new Eurabia its going to be the same old immigrant servitude that your use to my friend. I'd be carefull about who you hold that glass around my friend under sharia law its costumary to cut off the hand of those in possesion of alcohol I believe.





Originally posted by danwild6

As far as US troops being useless I wonder why it is then everytime you Brits or Euros see a problem whether it be Bosnia, Kosovo or any other hell hole on this planet you call on us to fix the problem?


as far as i'm aware, theres never been no american peacekeeping troops in bosnia/kosovo!! - even if thats the case why should it be 'us' whos telling you?
- WHY BRITAIN? - your supposed to be the only world superpower, your country should lead all those issues.

i guess that shows you who the real world leader is and the real 'superpower' on a global scale -

'superpower' in the 21st century is about being a superpower for the world, not invading small defenceless countrys for oil.

carry on doing it though, i'm sure the iraqi's appreciate your efforts (or so george bush would tell you)!!


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