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How does one gain access to super advanced tech?

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posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 09:49 AM
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If brand new technologies exist so much that the gov't isn't even aware that they should grab hold of it....
How would one gain access to that kind of stuff? Apart from the super secret gov't projects the regular gov't and society as a whole aren't aware of anti-grav tech or something along those lines.
So how does the average joe who wants to learn more about that stuff....learn about that stuff?

What if I wanted to build an anti-grav device or something more advanced than conventional tech? Would I really have to raid some top secret facility or can I simply consult public sources of info?




posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 09:52 AM
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It's quite simple. Become an Engineer. Takes several years of schooling but it's worth it....I hope
(Currently studying to be a Nanomechanical Engineer)



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by sardion2000
It's quite simple. Become an Engineer. Takes several years of schooling but it's worth it....I hope
(Currently studying to be a Nanomechanical Engineer)


Holy crap!
A nanomechanical engineer? Sounds like something I would be interested in. Bah, probably means your some math god or something.
I could never lick calculus.

I think if I ever came up with an idea for a project I would just pick the brains of the right engineers. So describe nanomechanical engineering.



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 10:12 AM
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Actually my math is average(at best) and I hired several Tutors to help me out
I want to do it because Engines of Creation inspired me and I firmly believe that if you set your mind to it you can do pretty much anything(within limits of course)

I could've taken the easy rout and done an English Major as that's my best subject but I don't like easy heh.

[edit on 15-2-2006 by sardion2000]



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 10:24 AM
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But the thing is your gonna have to learn calculus to pursue your field is that correct? If so good luck to ya. *salutes*
I mean, it would be way more effective instead of relying on stupid secret sources of top secret info. That way we can just bypass area 51 and other such sources altogether. Why do we rely on what some top secret black project is working on for inspiration? They will never share the results of what they doing with us anyway.

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posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 10:51 AM
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Calculus I'm actually not that bad at. It's Discrete Mathematics that I'm having problems with the most. I'm still getting help with both though heh. If you're interested in this sort of stuff GO FOR IT! The only thing stopping you is yourself.

Thanks for the kind words btw



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 11:17 AM
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I dunno.


Me and math never had a good relationship. I guess I wasn't lucky enough to have the right teacher or the right circumstances or whatever. I do realize though that its a mental thing and not anything else. Calculus is bad enough but what in the living heck is discrete math? Geez, I bet its even worse than calc!

But maybe I'm actually gonna have to do something like that because I'm sick and tired of having to rely on black secret projects for inspiration when they are NEVER gonna share their stuff with us. Only thing is I just don't have the YEARSSS its gonna take to get up to speed. Hence, my reliance on others to get the hard work done.



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 11:47 AM
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Come on..... keep area 51 out of this...... it's not what you think.


Stalker most great things are found by just falling over them! The accident has made some of our greatest jumps in technology.

I am with our friend here sardion as for going into that Nano Engineer if that is what you wont.
Like they say............... Just Do It!


PS....... Good luck sardion and you to Stalker if you go for it!!!

I will see you if you make it..... I will have place the to the miniguns outside your lads........



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 01:28 PM
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lol miniguns? I'm not sure if I'm interested in ideas for new weapon systems. Or maybe I do!



Originally posted by Mr101Hazardous
Come on..... keep area 51 out of this...... it's not what you think.


Stalker most great things are found by just falling over them! The accident has made some of our greatest jumps in technology.

I am with our friend here sardion as for going into that Nano Engineer if that is what you wont.
Like they say............... Just Do It!


PS....... Good luck sardion and you to Stalker if you go for it!!!

I will see you if you make it..... I will have place the to the miniguns outside your lads........



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 02:02 PM
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do you really think super advanc. tech has a forsale sign on it for the public? if it even was brand new tech and if it was for sale, aka, brand new anti gravity device.... of coarse itll cost an arm and leg and a liver and a kidney and maybe a lung for the gst. and the gst on these things! unless if your a millionare right now.... dream on.



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 02:22 PM
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Originally posted by StalkerZERO
lol miniguns? I'm not sure if I'm interested in ideas for new weapon systems. Or maybe I do!



Originally posted by Mr101Hazardous
I will see you if you make it..... I will have place the to the mini guns outside your lads........


That should read ( I will have to place the mini guns outside your labs. )
Man I need to learn to proof read things!


Edit for........ I did it... did not proof read it first.


[edit on 15-2-2006 by Mr101Hazardous]



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 02:35 PM
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As Sardion said, you go to school and become an engineer of some sort or a top level computer programmer or a chemist (materials specialist.)

Advanced tech is expensive to make (even the prototypes.) This is why the cutting edge stuff is done in defense contract companies such as Raytheon and Haliburton... even the government and the military doesn't generally manufacture this. They have the contractors build it and buy it from them.

James Bond's "Q" and his secret labs make it look as though it's all done "in house." It's not. Even making a car that runs underwater requires an automobile manufacturing plant of some sort to make the baseline vehicle.

Prototypes and new materials are unbelievably expensive and often require years to develop. Nor are they available (except possibly through the black market) to the public -- the exception is that they would be available to governments (from spies and agents on the black market) and they would be very very expensive.

So if you want access to them, as Sardion said, the quickest way is through engineering or through becoming a systems programmer. C (various flavors), Assembler, were required at one time and may still be. In general, learning to write operating system routines and writing routines for robots is a useful exercise. That, of course, means certification in the languages and a degree in programming.



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 02:41 PM
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Oh...


Originally posted by StalkerZERO
What if I wanted to build an anti-grav device or something more advanced than conventional tech? Would I really have to raid some top secret facility or can I simply consult public sources of info?


Well, yes. You can consult public sources of info. I'd start with reading papers from engineering magazines and published scientific papers that have been peer reviewed. Another good source for this is PhD dissertations and Masters' theses where a lot of groundbreaking work is done for free or for cheap.

For example, here's someone's dissertation on time machines; a person who may very well be working in the field as a student or as a researcher.
etd.unisa.ac.za...

Reading that and understanding it all would put you on the path toward learning and accessing this type of technology.



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 03:05 PM
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I suppose advances in or an invention that makes the manufacturing process something personal instead of based on a large manufacturing plant would be better. I mean before computers became "personal" data processing was primitive and had to be relied on someone else in a very large room.
Perhaps thats what we should be talking about. What if you had the capability in your garage or bedroom to manufacture and or assemble materials/prototypes in the same way that a large corporation in a large plant can?

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posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 03:49 PM
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Use bilocation techniques.



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 04:19 PM
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Huh?


Please elaborate?


Originally posted by pdo3
Use bilocation techniques.



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 05:22 PM
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Ok, here's a low-tech (kinda) approach. Join the military, meet the requirements, get your chosen field and a security clearance.
This sounds simple, but I did it. Quite by accident, I may add. Joined the Army, tested and app'ed for an M-60 turret mechanic MOS. Unbeknownst to me, the M-1 was just starting field tests. After AIT, I went under General Dynamics schooling to learn the turret systems of the (at the time) classified M-1.
What a culture shock from the M-60 !! Was a fun ride, also. Learning to repair stuff that the general public had no knowledge of.


Anyway, just my 2 cents,
Lex



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 05:30 PM
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Joined the Army, tested and app'ed for an M-60 turret mechanic MOS.

Not advanced technology, even for the time.



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 10:35 PM
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You will also need to take a fair deal of math to become a physicist, such classes might include: Cal I-III, LA, DE, PDE, DiffGeo (maybe), Multivariable or Vector Calculus, Complex variable class, Adv LA, Nonlinear Dynamics, Chaos, Statistics, Probablity. You need to know things like Fourier waves, I say this because you can google Fourier waves and understand the gist of it without the strong math background.


Do not be put off by the math requirements. I myself find biology far more challenging than math. biology is like memorizing a phonebook, math is about relations.



posted on Feb, 16 2006 @ 07:41 AM
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Argh!

So either I have to join the military and go into a speciality that I would hope would get me some sort of top secret security clearance. Or I would have to dive into a math course from hell. Maybe theres a crash course that would refresh me on pre-calc then discret calc, super calc and whatever else?


Dunno seems like I would have to waste years before I could get to the point where I could finally do work on any personal projects. Anybody remember the movie "The Fly"? The one with jeff goldblum. I liked the part when he said he wasn't as smart as some other brilliant people. And all he did was ask some smarter people than himself to build him a particle accelerator this and someone else to make him a laser emitter that and all he did was put them together. So he described himself as a systems manager really.
Maybe I could be someone like that? I could have an overall vision of a project and just consult smarter people than myself. What do you think?



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