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Topic started on 15-2-2006 @ 09:30 AM by Souljah
LA Times

A UN inquiry says the treatment of detainees at Guantanamo Bay, which at times amounts to torture, violates international law.

A draft United Nations report on the detainees at Guantanamo Bay concludes that the US treatment of them violates their rights to physical and mental health and, in some cases, constitutes torture.

It also urges the United States to close the military prison in Cuba and bring the captives to trial on U.S. territory, charging that Washington's justification for the continued detention is a distortion of international law.

The report, compiled by five U.N. envoys who interviewed former prisoners, detainees' lawyers and families, and U.S. officials, is the product of an 18-month investigation ordered by the U.N. Commission on Human Rights. The team did not have access to prisoners at Guantanamo Bay.

Nonetheless, its findings - notably a conclusion that the violent force-feeding of hunger strikers, incidents of excessive violence used in transporting prisoners and combinations of interrogation techniques "must be assessed as amounting to torture" - are likely to stoke U.S. and international criticism of the prison.

Well, there you have it - United Nations says, that US Interrogation Techniques used in Guantanamo (and everywhere else), count as Abuse, Torture and is in Violation of International Law.

Guardian - UN report calls for closure of Guantánamo

Prison breaks conventions on torture, say envoys

A UN inquiry into conditions at Guantánamo Bay has called on Washington to shut down the prison, and says treatment of detainees in some cases amounts to torture, UN officials said yesterday.

The report also disputes the Bush administration's legal arguments for the prison, which was sited at the navy base in Cuba with the purpose of remaining outside the purview of the US courts, and says there has been insufficient legal process to decide whether detainees continued to pose a threat to the US.


Want more Headlines?
Guantanamo called a ‘disgrace’ for America
Guantanamo report puts pressure on stubborn US
Close Guantanamo now

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NEWS: Mass Guantanamo Prisoner Transfer to Afghanistan Planned By US
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Soldier Sues Over Guantanamo Beating
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U.S. admits torture in Guantanamo, Iraq, Afghanistan
WAR: Classified Guantanamo Data CD Accidentally Returned to Convicted Translator
Mohammad Mazouz - Survivor of Guantanamo
Cheney: No Plans To Shut Down Guantanamo (moved from ATSNN)
NEWS: Suicide Attempts Increased at Guantanamo Since General Miller in Charge
Guantanamo captive 'worked with CIA'

Only to name a FEW threads from ATS - Ofcoures there are More!


reply posted on 15-2-2006 @ 10:27 AM by shots
Originally posted by ArchAngel
It is based on personal accounts, and our own admissions.


Wrong not according to some sources they claim the information came from the lawyers of detaines.

U.S. officials rejected the report, saying it was riddled with errors and treated statements from detainees’ lawyers as fact.
Source


also commenting on the report a UN spokesmans by the name of Nowak said

“It is a preliminary version,” Nowak said, refusing to comment on its substance. “This is an unauthorized preliminary report which might be changed.”
(Same Source as above)


Now if they are so sure why would the spokesman refuse to comment on the substance of the report? Answer because it might be changed thats why.


reply posted on 15-2-2006 @ 10:51 AM by Souljah
OK, lets check out some more News about this Subject.

UN report damns Guantanamo jail

"The apparent attempts by the US administration to reinterpret certain interrogation techniques as not reaching the threshold of torture in the framework of the struggle against terrorism are of utmost concern"

So - what is it then? Are the Prisoners being Tortured or not?

BBC - Guantanamo Bay inmates 'tortured'

"The US government should close Guantanamo Bay detention facilities without further delay!"

Yes Indeed - if they do not nothing to Hide, why does the US goverment NOT reveal Detention Fascilites, hmmm?

UN inquiry demands immediate closure of Guantanamo

A United Nations inquiry has called for the immediate closure of America's Guantanamo Bay detention centre and the prosecution of officers and politicians "up to the highest level" who are accused of torturing detainees.

So, thats the Reason!

I Bet that the Politicians and "Highest Level" do not want yet another Scandals on their hands - so they do whats best for now: STALL.

U.N. Report: U.S. Tortures Detainees

The five experts sought invitations from the United States to visit Guantanamo Bay since 2002 and three were offered a visit last year. But they refused in November when they were told they would not be allowed to interview detainees.

So as you see, the UN experts were not allowed a FULL Investigation - and ofcourse not the most Important part, of Interviewing the Detainess.

UN report calls for closure of Guantanamo

In Guantanamo, the UN experts concluded that the US operated "as judge, as prosecutor, and as defence counsel", thereby violating their right to a fair trial before an independent tribunal.

Taking the Role of Judge, Jury and the Executioner, ey?

Not very Civil - but then again it's WAR right?

And there are no more RULES in War anymore - even if they were Written in the Geneva Conventions, which are just there, to remind us all, that NOBODY is CIVIL or HUMANE anymore.

Not even the United States.



reply posted on 15-2-2006 @ 11:09 AM by Souljah
Originally posted by WHOFLUNGGUM
Souljah, you beat all!

www.frontpagemag.com...

nomayo.mu.nu...

www.thenewamerican.com...

www.aim.org...

www.foxnews.com...

www.rushonline.com...

Souljah, want more? Theres plenty more! You are using as your source the most corrupt Organization in the world....period! Oh, it's gotta be true since it is a negative report about the USA and the UN said so!



You are Something!

Using FOX NEWS, FrontPageMagazine?

TALK ABOUT CORRUPT!!!

Well, if they Say so, it MUST BE TRUE, right?



If I am not mistaken, the current US Administration is in the Middle of all sorts of Corruptions, Scandals - if you are checking the News lately!

Anyway, wanna talk about Oil for FOOD?

“this posturing is nothing more than a hypocritical charade, designed to shift attention away from the debacle of George Bush’s self-made quagmire in Iraq, and legitimize the invasion of Iraq by using Iraqi corruption and not the now-missing weapons of mass destruction, as the excuse.”

The Oil-For-Food 'Scandal' is a Cynical Smokescreen

Oil for Food: What's the Real Scandal?

Oil-for-Food Scandal: U.S.-Led Attack on the UN or Proof of Corruption That Could Take Down Kofi Annan?

The Independent Inquiry Committee for Oil for Food Programme


reply posted on 15-2-2006 @ 11:52 AM by Souljah
Originally posted by shots
No lets stick to the facts rather then your obscured and at times biased sources if you do not mind.

Sadly the word FACTS means a Different Thing to you.

So I guess we will not come togather on a single issue, source of news in this lifetime.


So what? Can you show me where in the Geneva Convention it states we have to allow the UN to inspect and interview detainees?

US is Breaking Geneva Conventions by Abusing and Torturing the Detainees.

Furthermore, it is clear, however, that the US kidnappings and treatment of prisoners violates the international law and United Nations Convention Against Torture, which also US has ratified.


Could this be a clear indication that they are being treated Humanely?

Nope.

There are PLENTY more of Indications of Humane Treatment:

HRW - U.S. Human Rights Leadership Faulted
Teens held in Guantanamo
Guantánamo torture and humiliation still going on
The International Committee of the Red Cross find ABUSE in Gitmo

Guantanamo - The Gulag of Our Times

"Guantanamo has become the gulag our times, entrenching the notion that people can be detained without any recourse to the law. If Guantanamo evokes images of Soviet repression, "ghost detainees" – or the incommunicado detention of unregistered detainees - bring back the practice of "disappearances" so popular with Latin American dictators in the past. According to US official sources there could be over 100 ghost detainees held by the US."

Well thats Nice.

Even mister Rumsfeld Admited that there is Torture going on in Guntanamo - but that means nothing to you, huh?

Anyway, it is Nice to know that Brave Men in Gitmos around the World are doing their Best, so that the Evil Men are locked safe and sound.

MEANWHILE, the real Al-Qaeda members (or Al-CIAda) miraculously Escape from Maximum security prisons!

Whoops!

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reply posted on 15-2-2006 @ 11:56 AM by WHOFLUNGGUM
Souljah you Slovenian Sweetheart!

I think you and my countrymen thank you from the bottom of our hearts for being so concerned about the state of America. It just gives me the warm and fuzzies. So in the same concept of sharing the love less take a look at your wonderful place of obode.



From External Source

According to the U.S. Department of State's 2003 Country Report on Human Rights Practices for Slovenia, violence against women is an area of concern and is underreported.





From External Source

Slovenia is a transit country for human trafficking to Italy, Belgium and the Netherlands. To a lesser extent, it serves as a destination country for Eastern European trafficking victims. Trafficking in women is not criminalized specifically.



www.stopvaw.org...



Hum my caring friend seems that the opposite sex in your country are having a bit of a time with being sold into slavery and such! Let me give you a bit of friendly advise. You see here in this corrupt country that I live in , the USA, we generally listen when a women says no! We normally do not beat the crap out of her and then sell her to the Slave Traders. Sorry, but I felt since you are showing so much concern for my countries well being that I would repay the kindness!


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