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Having to show receipt when leaving walmart and bag search

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posted on Feb, 16 2006 @ 06:37 AM
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Something I haven't seen mentioned that applies in the UK. They cannot stop or search you IN the store. You can perfectly legally pick up an item, walk around the till and stand by the door and you have done nothing wrong. However once you leave the building or store without paying they have got you, thats why shoplifters (or suspected ones) are always stopped in the street. If they said anything to you inside the store you could always claim to be going to the checkout "in a minute, when I've looked here" and they have no case.




posted on Feb, 16 2006 @ 05:33 PM
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...agreed, and if they ever tried, it's time to throw some fists



posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 11:50 AM
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They can detain you for a reasonable amount of time in a reasonable manner to determine whether you have stolen something.



posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 01:07 PM
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After having thought about this for awhile....

Perhaps we should cut the door checkers a little slack, unless they are rude. Rudeness from anyone in the service sector should not be tolerated by the customer. You PAID them and the least you can expect is to be
treated with dignity and courtesy.

Still it's not like being an old geezer, checking cash register receipts is anything to really be proud of. No wonder they might be a little surly.

To lighten the moment I always ask the door checker if they are wearing
any underwear. That always makes em smile and perhaps brings a little
levity into what might otherwise be a boring ho hum day.

[edit on 18-8-2008 by whaaa]



posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by timski
If the store were to make a publically-witnessed 'accusation of theft' and then demand to see the reciept and check the goods purchased against it, that could be considered slander and defamation of character, and i'm sure there would be plenty of litigation specialists eager to take the case to line their-and to a lesser extent, your-pockets.



Slander and defamation of character is a very flimsy case and no attorney would take it on unless you could prove mental distress from it. You have to be a public figure for it to be a solid case.

Everyone thinks that is a case until they actually call a lawyer and here the laughs at the other end of the phone!


[edit on 18-8-2008 by MrMysticism]



posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 01:21 PM
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Wow, seeing this thread and all the posts I posted before I worked at wal-mart, now I work at wal-mart.

Sometimes I get positioned as people greeter and as people greeter we are instructed to check reciepts for any items that are too big to fit in a bag.

Also if the alarm goes off and you have paid for the item it is because the cashier did not deactivate it properly at the register. So the people greeter will deactivate your item and check your recipet so that they can record the cashiers id. If a cashiers id shows up too many times on the deactivation list then he/she will be talked to about making sure to properly deactivate customers items.

Also previously I mentioned something about people greeters not stopping people who have no bags in their hand. Now I know that they are not allowed to do that. We can only check people with stuff that is plainly in view and/or stuff that is in wal-mart bags.

And last but not least, the only employees at wal-mart who can officially accuse you of stealing are the salaried managers and members of the Asset Protection department (aka, the secret shoppers)



posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 01:27 PM
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And don't forget that the alarm goes off when people touch the scanner thingy as they go by. Most times it's just a light brush with an elbow that the person doesn't even feel. This does not happen all the time but it does trip it a good ten percent of the time, just like metal detectors.

[edit on 18-8-2008 by MrMysticism]



posted on Oct, 13 2008 @ 10:45 PM
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No, it isn't illegal for them to ask. It is also not illegal for you to refuse.

Stores have the right to ask to see your receipt the same way you have the right to ask them to show their underwear. If they choose to comply, great. If not, they can't compel you to do so.

I had an incident with a Wal-Mart store about two years ago with this exact situation. I walked out after making a legal purchase, no alarms, no nothing. The greeter walked to my car and asked for my receipt. I refused. He then demanded, and I refused again and drove off. Next thing I know, I'm getting pulled over by the cops. They check, everything is as it should be.

I called Wal-Mart, they issued an apology to me and a $50 gift card, probably because I threatened them with a lawsuit.

Simply put, once you buy something, it is yours. Period. Nobody can search your property without your permission, other than a police officer with probable cause. I, for one, refuse to give up my rights as a free citizen because it would be more convenient.



posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 03:17 PM
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Yeah its a pain in the butt to be stopped and asked to open up my bags for purchases, but it's only happend a few times to me, and only when I'm pushing a massive cart full of stuff. When I bought stuff for my dorm room, I had a chair and an organization unit and other random things that didn't fit in bags. Usually the cashier will highlight the item on the receipt so that the greeter doesn't have to search for it.

I've never been stopped when I only have one or two bags, usually the greeter just smiles and says "Have a nice day!"

LOL Whaa! Next time I get stopped, I will ask them if they are wearing underwear


- Carrot



posted on Dec, 25 2008 @ 03:36 PM
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Those who give up FREEDOM for Security shall have neither
And so it begins at Walmart



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 01:02 PM
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It's pretty common practice at the Wal Marts,Sam's club,also at K Mart,but do you ever notice they don't really look at the receipt?,I had a cart full of stuff and 2 reciepts,gave them one,they looked intently at cart and said thank you,on other receipt was about 300 in elec items ,lot of good they do



posted on Jan, 3 2009 @ 03:07 PM
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This is blatantly false. My house is my private property, just because I put a sign over the door that says 'all females entering here automatically agree to let house owner engage in intercourse with them' does NOT mean I actually have the right to have sex with any female that actually enters my house. My law on my own property does NOT supersede the law of the land. Law of the land is not, and can not, be canceled out by a private property owner.

If you work at Walmart and you see me walk out with a shopping cart full of stuff, do you have the LEGAL right to stop me? Hell no. Can you ask me if you may see my receipt and if you can check my bags? Sure, but I may say no.
You want to try to detain me? I will use whatever force necessary to secure myself and my right to leave the store WITH my property. If you call the cops and they bother showing up, I will charge you with detaining me against my will.



posted on Jan, 5 2009 @ 10:35 AM
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Sorry Skippy, but the Constitution Of the United States of America guarantees me my rights anywhere within our borders, even if it is in your store walls. Illegal search and siezure is strictly prohibited by the founders of our country no matter what the Wal-Fart executives may think. Once I make a purchase, the item is mine. I own it. It is now my property. You can not search me or my property without due cause. You MUST have a reason to stop me and search MY belongings. A police officer can not stop anyone without a good reason because of this same Constitution. I'll be more than glad to go t court over this one. Come on with it.



posted on Jan, 5 2009 @ 11:14 AM
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I just smile, give them my receipt and have a conversation with the door person. It's their job to check if they need to and I don't let little things like this bother me. When it's all said and done the door person is happy, I'm happy and thinking positive. Thanks to all the real thieves out there we have to endure it.



posted on Jan, 14 2009 @ 04:51 AM
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Before detaining anyone, you must establish Shoplifting Probable Cause. To establish a solid base for probable cause and prevent false arrest claims, there are six universally accepted steps that a merchant should follow before deciding to stop someone suspected of shoplifting:

You must see the shoplifter approach your merchandise
You must see the shoplifter select your merchandise
You must see the shoplifter conceal or carry away or convert your merchandise
You must maintain continuous observation the shoplifter
You must see the shoplifter fail to pay for the merchandise
You must approach the shoplifter outside of the store



posted on Jan, 14 2009 @ 01:32 PM
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Originally posted by spacedoubt
whaaa,
I could see that.
imagine, having a pocket full of reciepts, dozens of them..
Pull them all out at once, and say "it's somewhere in there"
LOL


Or bring something from home, that you wouldn't be able to buy there.
Like an old 8-track tape, or a small stuffed squrriel or mouse.

Just deny how it got there, then leave it in the store and walk away. You could do this once a week just to mess with the dudes head.



posted on Jan, 14 2009 @ 05:26 PM
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Wal Mart's policies do not supercede my constitutional right to be free from unreasonable search and seizure or to be secure in my "papers" (receipts included).

I make a huge scene each and every time they stop me at the door and want to see my receipt. I am not a thief, never bounce a check for payment (which is a type of thievery), don't break their stuff and leave it for a clean up on aisle 10, etc.

I report people I see stealing stuff. Nothing ever gets done about that, btw. They say that they have to actually see the thief themselves and not take the word of some other shopper. If that's true, let me see the tape where they saw ME stealing. Otherwise, step aside and let me pass.

I actually had some door greeter lay her hands on me to prevent me from passing when I refused to show my receipt and I told her that Wal Mart didn't pay her enough to try to wrestle me down at the door.

There is a proper procedure for detaining someone you think has stolen something and it does not involve you surrendering your private papers (receipts) or illegally detaining you or preventing your free passage (out the door).

These inconveniences indivdually are nothing more than that but multiplied they become an oppressive way of life. I try to stop all forms of oppression when and where I can.



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 07:06 AM
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I was once told that I had to show my receipt as I left a WalMart and I refused to do so. She went on to explain to me as if I were a child that "this is WalMart policy." I then explained that while she [an employee of the store] was subject to their policies, I [a private customer] am not.

As I walked out, a manager ran out after me screaming that I would never be able to shop at WalMart again.

This seemed too good to be true. I quickly turned around and re-entered the store and told the manager to write down the number to their corporate headquarters along with her name so that I could file a complaint.

When I called their corporate office I was told that I certainly did not have to show my receipt when exiting and that I would be hearing from the store owner that day.

About an hour later I got an apology call from the owner of the store and a $250 gift certificate for my troubles.

I was leaving for school that day and went back to the same WalMart to pick up a few extra items and use my gift certificate. I saw that the From: line was blank and as I left the store I noticed that the manager with whom I spoke earlier was helping out in the lines. I quickly got in her line with my purchase and, when I got to the checkout I entered her name in the from line of the Gift Certificate I used to pay.

Needless to say, I had a large grin on my face during the transaction. She was less happy.

Oddly, I was again asked for my receipt on the way out of the store and when I refused I was again told that I had to show it. I told the greeter to go ask the manager with whom I had had my altercation whether she or I was right and walked out.

While WalMart has the right to ask to search you, you have the right to refuse.



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 08:57 PM
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I've been in wal-marts numerous times over the last 5 or ten years and had them check my reciept almost everytime. I honestly never cared. I just keep the reciept in my hand and they glance at it and wave me past most of the time.
It just never occured to me that somebody might think I am a criminal or be self conscious about it.
I really don't care for wal mart but many times it's the only place within reasonalbe distance to get certain items. They have so many people going through that security is not really a possibility except at entrances and exits.
Not to be a killjoy, but this might be an issue of some people being a little too sensitive.



posted on Jan, 29 2009 @ 12:39 AM
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Just do what I do no matter what you have one bag one box or a buggy full. Walk up to them and hand them your receipt. Nine out of ten times they won’t even look at it and wave you on.



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