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Having to show receipt when leaving walmart and bag search

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posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 08:04 AM
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For the past several years I have to keep my receipt out when leaving Walmart and someitmes they have actually checked the receipt against the purchases. I purchased a computer once and they stopped me and compared the receipt to make sure it was paid for. Isn't this illegal? Once I had purchased the computer it was mine not theirs and do they have the right to touch my things once I have paid for them and now own them. Have any of you had these problems with walmart? I see them doing this to people all the time.

Another thing is it legal for stores to hire people to watch customers undress in the dressing room to make sure they don't steal? I can't think of more of an invasion of privacy other than a cavity search. Are these types of breeches of dignity, legal?




[edit on 15-2-2006 by goose]




posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 08:26 AM
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No, it’s not illegal.

One thing that most people don’t realize is that retail establishments are in fact PRIVATE property. They can establish almost any rule or policy they want. Most businesses are not governed by the same rules public places are. The ONLY power you have over this is the choice not to shop there.

If I run a store I can inspect your receipt and purchase as much as I want before you leave. If you don’t like it, it’s your right not to shop there.

But to repeat myself: You don’t have the right to as much as you think you do when in a retailer’s store, its private property. Actually, most of what we perceive as a right in regards to retail is more a social rule than a legal one.

About the only legal rights you have in regards to retail shopping is accurate pricing and a safe environment. Almost everything else you think is your right is simply not true, even bag inspections.



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 08:30 AM
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I understand there policy, but it really makes you feel like a criminal.

One christmas a few years ago I had a really big order leaving with, and they made me compare everything I had in the carts to the receipt, this really took several minues and alot of eyes pointing and staring.

I think their should be a better way to do this. Honest people should not be made to feel like this.



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 08:43 AM
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Originally posted by skippytjc
No, it’s not illegal. One thing that most people don’t realize is that retail establishments are in fact PRIVATE property. They can establish almost any rule or policy they want...


If the store were to make a publically-witnessed 'accusation of theft' and then demand to see the reciept and check the goods purchased against it, that could be considered slander and defamation of character, and i'm sure there would be plenty of litigation specialists eager to take the case to line their-and to a lesser extent, your-pockets.

If you are having problems with being harrassed by store staff because of your choice of attire, or other possible outward cause for discrimination, why not state in a loud, clear voice within earshot of other customers that a public accusation of theft/impropriety is offensive to yourself and a public defamation, and that you will take the matter to it's highest legal conclusion...that would be enough to make any security stop and think



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 09:16 AM
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I haven't seen this done at the walmart here but I've seen this at other stores. It's kinda funny to me because if a person is going to steal something, they aren't usually going to put the item in their regular shopping bag. They would usually hide the item in their purse, or pocket or some place like that.

Walmart usually has secret shoppers as well who walk around the store and make sure that people don't steal and they are more than obvious about it.



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 10:12 AM
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I'm not really sure why this is news. Ever been to Best Buy? They damn near do a full body cavity search on everyone walking out of there.

I'm sure that, store for store, Walmart experiences more theft than any retail chain.

Peace



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 10:24 AM
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And the Dr brings up a good point:

These policies stem from theft. The theft is the reason why retailers need to impose radical policies. To focus attention on the policies rather than the root of the problem is misguided.

How many times have you gone up to an employee in a store and reported theft or questionable behavior that you have witnessed? Never? Then don’t complain about bag searches at the door.

But a retailer asking to match your receipt against your purchase is in no way a violation of any law or harrassment. Don’t like it, shop elsewhere, that’s the power you have: Don’t give them your money.



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 01:31 PM
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Wal-Mart yes...Happens a lot to me...
and you DO start to feel like a criminal.

I am considering making a suit, lined with old RFID tags.
Really...at least a jacket or something.

Too many times, I have walked out of one store with a legal purchase, then later walked into another, setting off the alarms as I went in..Then you are REALLY suspicious, because you BEEPED on the way IN!..
My evil plan is based on the "boy who cried wolf" syndrome..
Later this became the "car alarm" syndrome..nobody cares about those now.

Soon, I'll be setting off alarms all over town...LOL..And no one will care anymore.



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 01:56 PM
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They are completely witin their rights to look at your receipt.
You are also completely within your rights to ask for their Identification to verify if they have a right to look at your receipt.

Usually the door guy gets indignant and calls for a manager so if you have time to kill it's kind of a perverse corporate mind screw.

But for a real good time, save an old receipt and show that one instead and stand back and watch the fun. Confusion and strange facial expressions are well worth the price of admission. Meanwhile people are streaming buy and the poor old dude/dudett get so twisted and their eyes blink like crazy. Pull out the current receipt and everyone has a good laugh!!!



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 02:06 PM
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whaaa,
I could see that.
imagine, having a pocket full of reciepts, dozens of them..
Pull them all out at once, and say "it's somewhere in there"
LOL



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 02:13 PM
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You know whats really funny?

When someone with no bags in hand walks out the door and sets off the alarm because they obviously have merchandise hidden in their pockets but the front door man doesn't stop them because he is too busy checking someone elses reciept and bags.

I have seen that happen.



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 06:33 PM
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Although I have seen this type of thing happen at Wal-Mart, it has not happened to me, yet. I am not a thief, and I can tell you that I sure as
would'nt start by stealing sub-par merchandise from Wal-mart of all places.

If this type of random stop and search does happen to me, it will be quite the entertaining scene, because I guarantee they don't have anyone on their staff big enough or bad enough to stop me from leaving the store.

If this happens to anyone again, try challenging them. Tell them that they're not searching your bags, you haven't stolen anything, and your word is plenty good enough for them. If they threaten to call the police, let them. The police might come, might search your bags, see that you haven't stolen anything and then most likely be mad at the walmart staff for wasting their time. The Walmart staff will have also wasted their time, and you will have embarrassed them. Be sure to call attention to yourself too, ex: "This is how you treat cash-paying customers?"

Another problem Wal-Mart seems to have is their shop lifting detection system setting off false alarms. I see this all the time, even more so than the stop and searches.



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 07:36 PM
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Another problem Wal-Mart seems to have is their shop lifting detection system setting off false alarms. I see this all the time, even more so than the stop and searches.


That usually happens with the items from their electronic department. Those products have extra security tags that the cashier is supposed to rub on this de-activating device. When the cashier doesn't do it right, it sets the alarm off.



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 08:08 PM
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Originally posted by Dr Love
I'm not really sure why this is news. Ever been to Best Buy?


OK... Go to Best Buy... Walk into the CD section. Stand in front of a selection of CD's for roughly 30 seconds. Slowly look over your left shoulder... Then slowly look over your right shoulder. After that pick up a CD and pretend you are examining it closely for about 30 seconds. Then slowly look over your right shoulder and left shoulder and I guarantee you will see a Best Buy employee over one of your shoulders....



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 11:37 PM
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I don't know what countries you live in, but I live free.

I've been challenged by store security and always make a noise.
I start talking about my privacy, racial or economic profiling, discrimination, etc......
I'll comment that the bag they want to search may contain my collection of sex toys,
but I can be very graphic when I have an audience.
And I do it in a really LOUD voice.

I always demand that they call the police immediately if they want to detain me, because I want to charge them. (they never call the police)


The crap I have to put up with in some stores really pisses me off sometimes.
I'm a middle aged white guy that dresses fairly well, so it's not like the stores are picking on any minority group, at least not where I live. But it just seems like everyone is a suspect.....

I'm just waiting for the day that some stupid rent-a-cop does a search on me,
I'll sue everyone I can think of, because I don't shoplift.



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 11:59 PM
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Christ, what's wrong with me? I always thought that it was no big deal--I make a purchase, some old guy trying to make a living needs to make sure I actually did pay for the microwave that's too big to put in a bag. I lose 30 seconds of my time, they're comfortable that I'm not ripping them off, everyone's "happy." I never realized a minor corporate anti-theft policy like a reciept check was an invasion of my privacy and something I should make a scene about. I never thought I had anything to hide.


Originally by anxietydisorder
But it just seems like everyone is a suspect....


Everyone is a suspect. What reason do they have to believe you aren't ripping them off like the guy they caught earlier that day who dressed in a similar non-assuming white guy fashion? What makes you, me, or anyone else more special? Most shoplifters look just like everyone else, there's no way they can tell whether you're legit or not. How do they know that the 20 lb. bag of dog food on the bottom of your cart was something you paid for?

I guess I'm just weird, but I figure that if you haven't done anything wrong, then it's a minor inconvenience at worst. I'd be more embarrassed by causing a scene over the loss of a minute or two than someone I've never met and will most likely never see again thinking I might've lifted a CD.



posted on Feb, 16 2006 @ 12:27 AM
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Well, having worked at wal-mart as a stockman (they call them cart-crew now I believe), I know it's part of the company's policy to check anyone coming out with big stuff, we often did carry outs for people with big stuff and the door greater usually checked the receipt to be sure I wasn't conspiring against wal-mart to give customers free stuff:shk:

Wal-Mart actually has a specialized security force that dresses like regular customers, they will be send to suspected areas where shop lifters are active, and if he catches them in the act, he restrains them and calls the cops...

We also had multiple times that a security device was not deactivated so the alarm would go off when they walked out, it's a polite voice telling them that they should wait in side or something, I memorized the text but for the life of me I can't remember after 2+ years.

It was a fun job, I got to see all the inner workings of wally world...fun...



posted on Feb, 16 2006 @ 01:26 AM
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Originally posted by GrOuNd_ZeRo
Wal-Mart actually has a specialized security force that dresses like regular customers, they will be send to suspected areas where shop lifters are active, and if he catches them in the act, he restrains them and calls the cops...
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Thats what I said earlier, the secret shopper people. They are hillarious because they aren't very conspicuous. I saw this one guy following a couple, and he would stop a few feet away from them, pretend to look at a magazine while obviously peeking over the top, and then when the couple would move he would throw the magazine down and follow them quickly.



posted on Feb, 16 2006 @ 01:40 AM
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The security staff have no warrant card that gives them the legal right to detain you against your will (at least here in the UK) , it's just assumed that most folk don't know this and will comply with any goon in a uniform.



posted on Feb, 16 2006 @ 01:55 AM
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Originally posted by timski
The security staff have no warrant card that gives them the legal right to detain you against your will (at least here in the UK) , it's just assumed that most folk don't know this and will comply with any goon in a uniform.


Same in Canada.

If they don't witness a theft they have no right to search my pockets or down my pants.
They have no right to detain me in any way.

Why should I be punished because there are theives in the world



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