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posted on Feb, 14 2006 @ 06:54 PM
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I have been hearing alot about a secrect war between the Illuminati and/or mason vs. the knights of malta and/or Knights of Columbus.

Any material you can suggest?




posted on Feb, 14 2006 @ 07:24 PM
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A war between societies?

I have been hearing alot about a secrect war between the Illuminati and/or mason vs. the knights of malta and/or Knights of Columbus.

Any material you can suggest?


Xenothrope,

I’ll even save you the trouble of buying into the supposed rouse of a war between the leaders. We have heard before of the Rockefeller vs. Rothschild and it is nothing but pure nonsense.

The leaders of:

Jesuit/Catholic, KOM, KOC
Masons
Christian
Muslim
Jews

Now they ALL are working together in unison in and supporting Israel, (yes, even many the phony Muslim leaders support this plan) while awaiting the arrival of the New King of the World. This working together has been the case since the 1800’s. To the Jesuits, it is King Jesus, to the Christians, it is the second coming of Jesus, and to the Jews it is King Jesus, to the Muslims, also Jesus. Not good at all, as this second coming is all based on Biblical misinterpretations and still worse, many of the secret brotherhoods, who in fact have had a map of today's Europe already drawn out in 1800's, know EXACTLY who is coming and they have been working toward this NWO for a long time.

How few, know that Christ is here and flows down to us from the etheric? The new King who shall come to rule is Ahriman and indeed, an imposter. I believe Lucifer Trust attempted a similar feat with Krishnimurti and maitreya but failed to convince us, when Krishnimurti lost faith in the mission.

Also I even suspect *Steve Greer in his "Disclosure Project" to be noting more than a "time waster" who likes to distract us from researching the real causes!

**Sorry, Mr. Greer but real alien UFO's cannot be shot down be Tesla Coils!



posted on Feb, 14 2006 @ 07:36 PM
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Ok...most of that post made no sense. Krishnimurti? Please elaborate on these.



posted on Feb, 14 2006 @ 07:44 PM
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Xenothrope,

Sorry to hear I made no sense but would my explaining to you that Krishnumurti was an advanced master in contact with the "Mahatmas of Shamballa" who was to embody the coming of Ahriman, clear anything up for you.........no, I really didn't think so.

I'll try and simplify my point: They ALL work together "at the top" to put us good people, "at the bottom" against one another, see?

Cheers.



posted on Feb, 14 2006 @ 07:45 PM
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At least that much I understand.



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 04:44 AM
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It's pretty much all a distraction at this point. There's some truth but the noise ratio is intense right now. The last major shift happened around November 2005 (from what I can tell). We are now in a new cycle. Watch the media. Watch the subtle changes.

Any truths now being given are all part of the acclimation to prepare the unwashed masses for the next level of the game (with them still in control). But don't worry. They don't need to be at war with each other to fail miserably with their plans. The best thing to do now is sit back, relax, and enjoy the show.



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 04:50 AM
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Amen. And they shall fail.... they took way too long trying to unplug the internet...they got too proud and now its gonna be fun watching them really screw up 200 + years of effort!




posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 05:49 AM
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Originally posted by markusjharper
they got too proud



Exactly. The ship is leaking like a screendoor underwater. The really funny thing is they still think they are going to get what they want. It's going to be one spectacular grand finale. I would be lying if I said I didn't love it.



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 10:01 AM
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Originally posted by markusjharper
that Krishnumurti was an advanced master in contact with the "Mahatmas of Shamballa" who was to embody the coming of Ahriman, clear anything up for you.........no, I really didn't think so.

Actually, that does clear up quite a bit!



As far as a war between secret societies, I don't know about a masonic/illuminati vs. KofC war, but the various Golden Dawn splinter groups did have secret esoteric/magical wars with one another for a while.

[edit on 15-2-2006 by Nygdan]



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 11:16 AM
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Does it not say to watch out for fake prophets?
Maitreya won't go far, he's too slow, his tactics
are religious, that is his flaw. Religion takes
centuries. Now, what the anti-christ will look like,
When the police state comes, he will say,
loketh up their corrupted souls, we must fight for freedom.
He 'overthrows' all government using partisans, you and me,
and creates a sort of global government, this will be a sort of utopia.
Religion will be unified, 'hapiness' and stuff will occur. He will give the image of a good guy for a while.
But in secret, he will plan the downfall of the world.
And mind you, the elite now a days? They will never be found,
cause he will make sure that they are safe and sound, behind him,
but no one will know. Once he is firmly in power, then the fun begins.

Now how do I know this? Because I planned to take over the world that way
, mind you, I'd have a serious talk with the elite leaders, and quite possibly put them in a place that they would surely enjoy,
the abominable torture chamber. Ooooh, fear my torture chamber.
Tickle me to death Elmo, hehe.

[edit on 15-2-2006 by Radekus]

[edit on 15-2-2006 by Radekus]



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 01:18 PM
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Exactly. The ship is leaking like a screendoor underwater. The really funny thing is they still think they are going to get what they want. It's going to be one spectacular grand finale. I would be lying if I said I didn't love it.

What is it exactly that we want again?

And by the way there is no war that i know of. In fact we even have a knight of Colombus who belongs to our lodge. great guy by the way he's been my best friend now for 18 years. Catholics dont mind masons anymore and we dont mind them.

if their was a secret war how would you have heard about it? wouldnt it be secret? and woulndt it be between REAL secret societies say ones you've never heard of? and how in the world would it impact you if your not even a member of one of these societies?



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by markusjharper
Xenothrope,

I’ll even save you the trouble of buying into the supposed rouse of a war between the leaders. We have heard before of the Rockefeller vs. Rothschild and it is nothing but pure nonsense.

The leaders of:

Jesuit/Catholic, KOM, KOC
Masons
Christian
Muslim
Jews

Now they ALL are working together in unison in and supporting Israel, (yes, even many the phony Muslim leaders support this plan) while awaiting the arrival of the New King of the World. This working together has been the case since the 1800’s. To the Jesuits, it is King Jesus, to the Christians, it is the second coming of Jesus, and to the Jews it is King Jesus, to the Muslims, also Jesus. Not good at all, as this second coming is all based on Biblical misinterpretations and still worse, many of the secret brotherhoods, who in fact have had a map of today's Europe already drawn out in 1800's, know EXACTLY who is coming and they have been working toward this NWO for a long time.

How few, know that Christ is here and flows down to us from the etheric? The new King who shall come to rule is Ahriman and indeed, an imposter. I believe Lucifer Trust attempted a similar feat with Krishnimurti and maitreya but failed to convince us, when Krishnimurti lost faith in the mission.

Also I even suspect *Steve Greer in his "Disclosure Project" to be noting more than a "time waster" who likes to distract us from researching the real causes!

**Sorry, Mr. Greer but real alien UFO's cannot be shot down be Tesla Coils!


Forgot British royalty, unless you believe they are one of those listed...



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by umwolves123
What is it exactly that we want again?



Not talking about the underclassmen. All that stuff is merely a distraction. It makes men feel like they are part of something good. Evil always hides behind good intentions so that men won't see it.



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 09:12 PM
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Greetings markusjharper


I'd agree that Zionism has infiltrated almost everything in these degenerated times; but to lump together all those groups that you mentioned as being completely Zionist, is going a bit far.

That's giving the Black Lodge too much credit by implying that anyone who belongs to said groups is directly supporting Zionism.

Though they do have their grubby little hands in just about everything, so you're not too far off, despite your over generalizations.



About Krishnamurti(a very Intelligent Man I must say):






Link: The Krishnamurti Case


This is definitely worth reflecting on...



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 09:32 PM
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By the way:



markusjharper

...who likes to distract us from researching the real causes!



A wise man ought to realize that real causes of all this nonsense, are within ourselves.

When we waste so much time chasing around the Zionists and their conspiracies, without first sincerely looking at the seeds of destruction(egos) within ourselves(ignorance, anger, fornication, fear, etc.), guess what?

"They" win.

The real enemies, or unbelievers of Allah who keep us from researching the real causes, are our own egos.

That Legion of "I's" spoken of in the Christian Gospels.

If you don't believe me(don't do that), then take a look for yourselves.


The only one who can truly fool you is yourself.



amirfatir.tripod.com...

"Man, know thyself" was written at the entry ways of the Egyptian Mystery Schools. The Egyptians understood that knowledge of self was the most valuable knowledge one could possess. Its opposite, ignorance of self, was the source of all the ills in the world.

The English word self is "nafs" in Arabic. It means "soul." In Sanskrit, the true self is called "atman." The Egyptians called it the Ba. To know oneself is to know one's true soul (atman or Ba).

The soul has seven divisions that the Egyptians called the khab, khaibit, ka, ab, shekem, khu and Ba...





The Ten Rules for Meditation

...Upon the mysterious threshold of the Temple of Delphi a Greek maxim was engraved in the stone and said: HOMO NOSCE TE IPSUM - "Man know thyself and thou will know the universe and the Gods." In the final instant, it is obvious, evident and clear that the study of oneself and serene reflection conclude in the quietude and in the silence of the mind. When the mind is quiet and in silence, not only in the intellectual level but in all and each one of the forty-nine subconscious departments, then the Newness emerges. The Essence, the Consciousness, is unbottled, and the awakening of the soul, that is to say, Ecstasy, Samadhi, the Satori of the Saints, occurs...



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 09:41 PM
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I'd agree that Zionism has infiltrated almost everything in these degenerated times; but to lump together all those groups that you mentioned as being completely Zionist, is going a bit far.

That's giving the Black Lodge too much credit by implying that anyone who belongs to said groups is directly supporting Zionism.

Though they do have their grubby little hands in just about everything, so you're not too far off, despite your over generalizations.


I made mention to Zionism in another thread but I agree with you that Zionism is not everything. I also made mention to "all roads leading to the Rothschild’s" but I also accept that there are many other "isms".

But you mentioned the black lodge..... What do you think is this lodge's belief system? I think that the coming of Satan is not only Zionist.

Regarding the evil within man.... I will resist spiritually first and use my mind second and then if that fails. I will use physical force, if necessary.

Seeing a little child slowly tortured to death...imagine being a parent (a mother) and watching her little girl or boy being skinned alive slowly. What I am supposed to do, pray? Are people really aware that evil DOES exist?

I'll do whatever I got to do to protect a child's life - to this there can be no exception – no discussion; torture is what they want to do to us and I will fight them until death!


[edit on 15-2-2006 by markusjharper]


Cug

posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 09:56 PM
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Originally posted by Nygdan

As far as a war between secret societies, I don't know about a masonic/illuminati vs. KofC war, but the various Golden Dawn splinter groups did have secret esoteric/magical wars with one another for a while.


Actually there is a Golden Dawn "war" happening right now, a court battle over trademark issues.

And in the recent past there have been quite a bit of internet wars between the various orders. The O.T.O. had some recent history of court battles over who is the "real" O.T.O. and Crowley copyrights. That spawned many internet flamewars.



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 10:53 PM
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Personly, I think the one "society" to rule them all. Is bolderdash.

As a student of history, I know there are many competing ideologies across the world. Each wishing they Ruled the "world" and all its resources. (And many spiritual "enemies" behind the scenes as well.)

Look at the Regional Mini-war's Between Pakistan and India. The Chinese invasion of Vietnam, the Border Clash's between Russia and China, the Rwandan Genocide, Imia and Kardak war, the ethnic conflict in Sri Lanka. To name a few.

And you will see various ideologies that share nothing in Common. Except Greed, Lust, and Hatred.

Perhaps someday, There will be a "One world Government". But such a World will only come about by War, Not peace.



posted on Feb, 17 2006 @ 10:12 AM
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Originally posted by Cug
Actually there is a Golden Dawn "war" happening right now, a court battle over trademark issues.

Thats not as much fun as crowley in a kilt and black hood brandishing a dagger though!


These guys have a nice radio podcast about the Golden Dawn debacle.



posted on Feb, 17 2006 @ 05:07 PM
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*double post*

[edit on 17-2-2006 by Tamahu]



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