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REFRAIN FROM SLAMMING CHRISTIANITY OR ORGANIZED RELIGION IN GENERAL
Nephilim and the Greys could very well be one in the same.
Originally posted by Enkidu
Nephilim and the Greys could very well be one in the same.
They do share similar characteristics. Like the fact there isn't a shred of evidence at this time proving the existence of either one. Those two and Leprechauns could definitely all be the same.
Behold, in the vision clouds invited me and a mist summoned me, and the course of the stars and the lightnings sped and hastened me, and the winds in 9 the vision caused me to fly and lifted me upward, and bore me into heaven. And I went in till I drew nigh to a wall which is built of crystals and surrounded by tongues of fire: and it began to affright 10 me. And I went into the tongues of fire and drew nigh to a large house which was built of crystals: and the walls of the house were like a tesselated floor (made) of crystals, and its groundwork was 11 of crystal. Its ceiling was like the path of the stars and the lightnings, and between them were 12 fiery cherubim, and their heaven was (clear as) water. A flaming fire surrounded the walls, and its 13 portals blazed with fire. And I entered into that house, and it was hot as fire and cold as ice: there 14 were no delights of life therein: fear covered me, and trembling gat hold upon me.
1 And they took and brought me to a place in which those who were there were like flaming fire, 2 and, when they wished, they appeared as men. And they brought me to the place of darkness, and to a mountain the point of whose summit reached to heaven. And I saw the places of the luminaries and the treasuries of the stars and of the thunder and in the uttermost depths, where were 4 a fiery bow and arrows and their quiver, and a fiery sword and all the lightnings. And they took 5 me to the living waters, and to the fire of the west, which receives every setting of the sun. And I came to a river of fire in which the fire flows like water and discharges itself into the great sea towards 6 the west. I saw the great rivers and came to the great river and to the great darkness, and went 7 to the place where no flesh walks. I saw the mountains of the darkness of winter and the place 8 whence all the waters of the deep flow. I saw the mouths of all the rivers of the earth and the mouth of the deep.
1 I saw the treasuries of all the winds: I saw how He had furnished with them the whole creation 2 and the firm foundations of the earth. And I saw the corner-stone of the earth: I saw the four 3 winds which bear [the earth and] the firmament of the heaven. And I saw how the winds stretch out the vaults of heaven, and have their station between heaven and earth: these are the pillars 4 of the heaven. I saw the winds of heaven which turn and bring the circumference of the sun and 5 all the stars to their setting. I saw the winds on the earth carrying the clouds: I saw the paths 6 of the angels. I saw at the end of the earth the firmament of the heaven above. And I proceeded and saw a place which burns day and night, where there are seven mountains of magnificent stones, 7 three towards the east, and three towards the south. And as for those towards the east, one was of coloured stone, and one of pearl, and one of jacinth, and those towards the south of red stone. 8 But the middle one reached to heaven like the throne of God, of alabaster, and the summit of the 9,10 throne was of sapphire. And I saw a flaming fire. And beyond these mountains Is a region the end of the great earth: there the heavens were completed. And I saw a deep abyss, with columns of heavenly fire, and among them I saw columns of fire fall, which were beyond measure alike towards 12 the height and towards the depth. And beyond that abyss I saw a place which had no firmament of the heaven above, and no firmly founded earth beneath it: there was no water upon it, and no 13 birds, but it was a waste and horrible place. I saw there seven stars like great burning mountains, 14 and to me, when I inquired regarding them, The angel said: 'This place is the end of heaven and 15 earth: this has become a prison for the stars and the host of heaven. And the stars which roll over the fire are they which have transgressed the commandment of the Lord in the beginning of 16 their rising, because they did not come forth at their appointed times. And He was wroth with them, and bound them till the time when their guilt should be consummated (even) for ten thousand years.'
Originally posted by Nakash
The Fallen angels scenario is much more realistic truth be told:
-SETI has detected NOTHING in 20-30 years. Not a single measly signal, absolutely nothing.
-Evolution of life on other planets and on Earth itself is a point of dispute.
-These beings demonstrate qualities which are unfamiliar to our current laws of physics. Examples: turning at right angles while travelling above the speed of sound, vanishing into oblivion without a trace,etc.
- The beings we call "Aliens" display behaviour which can be predicted within a biblical basis (ie: the obsession with reproduction and genetics, the fear of certain religious signs and utterances, the connection to places of biblical interest such as certain sections of Israel which is now in a UFO outbreak)
and so forth. Satan is after all called the "Prince of the power of the air", "Lord of those that fly", and so forth, perhaps a connection is present.
Originally posted by Xenothrope
Originally posted by salsa
As for humans being fallen angels...
Fallen Angels = Belief In God = Belief That God Created Us = Fact That We Are Not Angels.
But alas, I have no room to comment on religion....
I see a lot of = signs, I'd like to know more about the math you did to come up with all those equal signs. And while we're at it maybe someone could comment on why a person is automatically crazy because they entertain a notion or a thought. I seem to remember reading a comment like, "If man were meant to fly, God would have given him wings." Most every good idea or concept has met the same opposition. The same kind of black and white thinking.
It happens that I'm studying that particular theory right now and you caught my attention. Maybe you could save me some research hours and tell me how you concluded this to be a "fact"?