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UFO's=Fallen Angels?

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posted on Feb, 14 2006 @ 06:08 PM
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This is a thoery which i am not entirely sure of. i actually thought of this a while back and then ran across a book about it not to much longer afterwords. this book is alien intrusion, written by gary bates. it provides very confincing information about ufo's being fallen angels/demons, including (but not limited to) little known reports of alien abudtion encounters being halted when the abductee calls out the name of Jesus. i wanted to see what everyone else thought about this idea.



Here's a page with a bit about this book
www.newleafpublishinggroup.com...




posted on Feb, 14 2006 @ 06:11 PM
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BEFORE ANY ONE POSTS:
I ask you keep an open mind AND REFRAIN FROM SLAMMING CHRISTIANITY OR ORGANIZED RELIGION IN GENERAL

Thank you.



posted on Feb, 14 2006 @ 06:14 PM
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i am not in anyway slamming christianity, and am infact a devout believer myself. my question was wether or not people believed that the encounters with ufo's and ufo reports could in fact be encounters withe the angles which fell with lucifer. im am deeply sorry if it came off anyway other than that.



posted on Feb, 14 2006 @ 06:16 PM
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Not you, its just people here tend to be....anti believer. and mean.



posted on Feb, 14 2006 @ 06:24 PM
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I hear you Brother


Ive heard alot about this Topic on the C2C Am show .

Its very intriguing to say the least .

Im not sure if anyone really knows the truth ? as such .

But it is compelling when you try to put all the Pieces of the Puzzle together. Some of them fit quite nicely . As for me, its up in the Air untill i hear more Definitive proof .

On a Side Note -- do you think an Fallen Angel can ever redeem itself ?.



posted on Feb, 14 2006 @ 06:31 PM
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On one level, I think it's a silly idea. Other lifeorms (like, say dolphins or starfish or whatever) are not demons or demonic in nature. Intelligent (or nonintelligent) lifeforms from another planet are just that: lifeforms.

Not demons. Not angels.

On another level, It's been pointed out a lot of times that the "demon visitations" are a lot like "alien visitations" and "angel visitations." It's been suggested that people who have a psychosis (where you can see and hear things and people that aren't there) will interpret their psychosis in whatever logical framework the society gives it.

So if you're a guy living in the bush, it might be a "totem" that was good or was evil. If you lived in a Christian town, it could be a demon or an angel. If you believed in alien civilizations, it could be an alien.



posted on Feb, 14 2006 @ 06:38 PM
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its Still a very interesting Topic ------- Indellkoffer

considering Ufo's have been dipicted on Cave walls, Acient paitings ?. and not so acient paintings .
And maybe even mentioned in the Bible ? .



posted on Feb, 14 2006 @ 06:43 PM
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i have an idea about this. Maybe because the aliens or UFOs are so advanced and so much ahead of us, that we have no other way to describe them then something heavenly. Maybe they are so intelligent that they seem like an angel or a demon. does any one get what im saying?



posted on Feb, 14 2006 @ 06:52 PM
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Originally posted by mfj649212
i have an idea about this. Maybe because the aliens or UFOs are so advanced and so much ahead of us, that we have no other way to describe them then something heavenly. Maybe they are so intelligent that they seem like an angel or a demon. does any one get what im saying?


yes i do .
its all possiable .

some beleive they are reptiles , others say they are Angels , Some say something completely different .

Really , I dont care what they are - its just a interesting topic .



posted on Feb, 14 2006 @ 07:45 PM
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man.. these posts are crazy. Soon I'm going too say my Dog is a fallen angel because he looks like a devil..... What has come too this world. People need too unplug out of there biblical scrips and loosen up, forget about aliens being the bad guys there just being humans as we would be doing to them if we were too switch places. So Really humans are fallen angels.



posted on Feb, 14 2006 @ 07:50 PM
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Originally posted by salsa
man.. these posts are crazy. Soon I'm going too say my Dog is a fallen angel because he looks like a devil..... What has come too this world. People need too unplug out of there biblical scrips and loosen up, forget about aliens being the bad guys there just being humans as we would be doing to them if we were too switch places. So Really humans are fallen angels.

Like I said, some people are down right fascistic when it comes to religion.
Sadly I doubt that any EBE are "just being human" and I highly, highly doubt that they are doing anything that can be described as "good."
As for humans being fallen angels...
Fallen Angels = Belief In God = Belief That God Created Us = Fact That We Are Not Angels.

But alas, I have no room to comment on religion....



posted on Feb, 14 2006 @ 08:42 PM
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Originally posted by unknown agent
This is a thoery which i am not entirely sure of. i actually thought of this a while back and then ran across a book about it not to much longer afterwords. this book is alien intrusion, written by gary bates. it provides very confincing information about ufo's being fallen angels/demons, including (but not limited to) little known reports of alien abudtion encounters being halted when the abductee calls out the name of Jesus. i wanted to see what everyone else thought about this idea.


I pondered this for a while, then thought back to a fascinating conversation I had with a Jehovas Witness, an Elder to be precise who visited me at home. I brought up the subject of UFO culture and asked him what his stance was on the subject. He basically told me that they were illusions created by Satan to offer false hope of salvation. I was quite taken aback to be honest, and similar conversations with Christian family members have inevitably been very short, with an unwillingness to participate in any form of debate.

I'd be interested to know what other Christians on these boards think. And as a prologue to my Jehovas Witness visit, I asked:
"If God created the universe, God created our planet and God created all life, surely God created life on other planets? Why make something so vast as the universe only to populate one planet with life? Is it not possible he created life on other planets, say a million years before ours, and they have advanced sufficiently to be capable of inter stellar travel?"

I managed to get him to agree with me, he then quickly wrapped up the visit muttering something about "Consulting his texts" and said he would be back to me. I never saw him again.

Agnostic :1
Elder of his faith: 0



posted on Feb, 14 2006 @ 08:45 PM
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Originally posted by salsa
man.. these posts are crazy. Soon I'm going too say my Dog is a fallen angel because he looks like a devil..... What has come too this world. People need too unplug out of there biblical scrips and loosen up, forget about aliens being the bad guys there just being humans as we would be doing to them if we were too switch places. So Really humans are fallen angels.


LOL - love this post , Nice .

Still laughing.



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 09:52 AM
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I have never read anywhere in the Bible that we are alone in this vast

eternal universe. We are MAN, but how many other creations or beings has

God put his fingerprints on?..........WE have no idea!!!
I myself have never been able to see an eternal God stopping CREATION.

We know that long before Man ever came into the picture the Angels were

part of his creation. There are also different kinds of

Angels........THEY are not all the same.....Cherubim and Seraphim. The

Archangels are the top brass and rule over the other Angels. The other

office held by most of the Angels are the WATCHERS.

The Angels are also known in the Bible as....The sons of God....The host

of Heaven and The Morning Stars.
We also know that the number of Angels that were created could not be

counted.

As far as you can go back into the history and civilizations of man you

can always see an influence and belief in the gods of the heavens.

Whether they be of an Angelic nature,another creation or being, there is

no doubt they have had their fingerprints all on and around us.



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 10:30 AM
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I answer the question with Occam's Razor. IMO is far more realistic to think that aliens are visiting earth than UFO's being fallen angels. (Fallen angels
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BTW, great post from Salsa.
We too are EBE, or aliens for any other galactic civilisation.

[edit on 15-2-2006 by looofo]



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 12:54 PM
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Since there is no good proof of angels, maybe it isn't such a good idea to use angels to "explain" UFOs. Just a thought.



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 01:04 PM
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A friend of mine claimed his dad was abducted and told me his dad thinks they are angels. I don't believe this is the truth though and I think they must be lifeforms of their own kind.



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 01:12 PM
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The way I see it there is much more evidence for the existence of UFOs than there is for Angels.

So its really no wonder that people who believe in Angels would want to associate them with UFOs to validate their beliefs.



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 01:22 PM
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www.mt.net...

Take a look at this website for some more information!!!!!!!!!

Folks, even if you don't believe in God, there is a lot of historical reference to explain for ufo's. Some people want to remain in their own little world according to June Cleaver because they can't wrap their minds around the fact that it's a big universe out there


I am a Christian whom has an open mind and thinks science and religion are not in conflict. There is only conflict when people try to make things fit into their narrow minded perspective.



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 01:39 PM
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I can only speak from experience here, but after a very strong set of religious visions and experiences, from which my faith has gone from strength to strength, my abductions have halted. Why? because every night I put on my crucifix, pray to God for St Michaels protection, and for protection from evil, and i sleep well. Thats not to say I don't get uneasy some times or have bad flash back nightmares, because i do, but i can say for certain of one thing: Jesus protects me and my abductions have stopped.
My life was in tatters before i turned to God and jesus, and now it goes from better to great.



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