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Russia newest Attack Sub.

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posted on Feb, 14 2006 @ 12:59 AM
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I don't know why I couldn't search any photos of new Rassian attack-sub?
I am sure the newest Russian attack-sub has been luanched, but only one picture by image has showoned this submarine.

The picture showed the sub looks like a sub showed in science fiction movie.




posted on Feb, 14 2006 @ 02:49 AM
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I haven't been able to find any information on it, but that may be the Russian P-IX SSN. It's their next generation SSN that's under development. As far as I know it hasn't even started building yet. That pic looks like an artists rendering of what it will look like. I might be wrong though. I can't find anything on it, except a passing mention in one or two articles.

[edit on 2/14/2006 by Zaphod58]



posted on Feb, 14 2006 @ 03:12 AM
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MOSCOW, Feb. 8 (Xinhuanet) -- The Russian navy has approved a project to design and build a next-generation submarine with limited displacement, a Defense Ministry official said on Wednesday.

"A submarine of this class will guarantee the combat reliability of Yury Dolgoruky-class strategic nuclear-powered missile submarines and fulfill other tasks performed by multipurpose nuclear submarines," Anatoly Shlemov, head of the ministry's naval armaments department, was quoted by the Interfax news agency as saying.

The displacement of this class of submarines must be 5,000 to 6,000 tons, the official said.

Russian Navy Commander Vladimir Masorin said in January that four submarines will form the core of the Russian navy's submarine forces.

The Borei complex will be the backbone of the strategic submarine forces. A multipurpose nuclear-powered cruise missile submarine is being built. Tests of a diesel-electric submarine are nearing completion and the construction of one more submarine is planned, Masorin said.

news.xinhuanet.com...


[edit on 14-2-2006 by mad scientist]



posted on Feb, 14 2006 @ 03:35 AM
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The future of the Russian attack submarine fleet is represented by fourth-generation cruise-missile Project 885 Yasen (NATO name Granay), the first of which, Severodvinsk, is still under construction (the Severodvinsk was supposed to be completed in 2000, but its launch has been postponed several times due to insufficient funding). Project 885 is supposed to eventually replace Projects 945 and 949, so that only two classes of attack submarines will eventually remain in the navy.

www.nti.org...



www.bellona.no...




Russian nuclear submarine production is now centered at Sevmash. As of mid-1998 three nuclear-powered submarines were under construction: the first fourth-generation strategic Borei-class ballistic submarine; a Severodvinsk-class "multi purpose" prototype submarine, and one Akula-class attack submarine. The Yuri Dolgoruki, the first of the Borei-class strategic ballistic missile submarines, is intended to replace the obsolete submarines being dismantled with Nunn-Lugar funds. It will have about half the displacement of the giant Typhoon, while carrying 20 SLBMs. The fourth-generation Project 885 Severodvinsk, which was laid down on 21 December 1993, is the follow-on to the Akula class of multipurpose nuclear attack submarine.

www.globalsecurity.org...



The Project 885 nuclear-powered submarine is a follow on Project 971, Akula-class, with reduced noise emissions. It is intended to engage submarines, surface ships and ground targets using torpedoes, missiles, and mines. Vertical launch tubes are intended to launch cruise missiles while horizontal torpedo tubes will launch missiles, torpedoes, and mines.

The Project 885 class ships would replace current Project 971, 945 and 949 submarines. However its future remains uncertain and some reports suggest that first unit, named Severodvinsk, construction was cancelled. Other sources suggest that Severodvinsk could be available for export with India as the main potential customer to fulfill its request for a nuclear-powered submarine.

www.deagel.com...




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posted on Feb, 14 2006 @ 02:07 PM
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Here is some info on 3 types of Russian subs.


Next gen SSBN

Next gen SSN

Most secret



posted on Feb, 14 2006 @ 05:18 PM
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I like to congradulate my Russian Comrades into building such a powerfull and beautifull sub, perhaps in the future Iran-Russia will work on more military projects together.



posted on Feb, 14 2006 @ 10:18 PM
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the US and UK already now these I am sure. They look a bit seawolfish to me, if gs knows that much about them what does the US and the Uk know about these "new" subs? I would hope russia would stay out of Iran affiar or it could get rather rough for them and a great deal more people about the world.



posted on Feb, 14 2006 @ 10:41 PM
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Originally posted by Bozorgh
I like to congradulate my Russian Comrades into building such a powerfull and beautifull sub, perhaps in the future Iran-Russia will work on more military projects together.


I don't think there is going to be much left of Iran in the near future. Where did you get the idea that Iran worked with Russia on subs, or even anything else?



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 12:50 AM
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Originally posted by Bozorgh
I like to congradulate my Russian Comrades into building such a powerfull and beautifull sub, perhaps in the future Iran-Russia will work on more military projects together.


This new submarine has absolutely nothing to do with Iran



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 01:43 AM
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Looks like a nice sub, Russia always made really nice subs

Hey Russia might be willing to unload some older subs on the market now. But I doubt Russia is going to sell its newest toy to anyone. Countries tend to keep the best of high ticket items like this for themselves and if anything sell a nerfed version.



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 06:05 AM
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Do any of you have any idea what is involved in running a nuclear power plant to make steam?? Commercial or submarine or Aircraft carrier????

It requires extensive training....very extensive. It requires a attention span. It requires math diciplines. YOu dont just pluck these kinds of diciplines off the street. I would think the Russians would be very careful as to whom they deliver a nuclear submarine or a nuclear power plant.
I dont think the Iranians trust the Russians anymore than vice versa. Most muslims have little respect for godless athiests.


Thanks,
Orangetom



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 10:24 AM
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^^^ Hoe true, during the Cold War the US was the great Satan and the USSR the LEsser Satan - according to the Iranians anyway.



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 10:41 AM
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Wow, thats really cool. Very sleek design.

Its looks like its based off of the Typhoon missile sub, although it seems that it cannot hold as many missiles. The Typhoon could carry 20 or so missiles (forgot exact number) and this seems to carry about 8.



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 11:19 AM
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Originally posted by Kacen
Wow, thats really cool. Very sleek design.

Its looks like its based off of the Typhoon missile sub, although it seems that it cannot hold as many missiles. The Typhoon could carry 20 or so missiles (forgot exact number) and this seems to carry about 8.


It's an SSN, it doesn't carry ballistic missiles. The launch tubes are for Tomahawk type missiles. The Borei class is the new Russian SSBN.



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 11:29 AM
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Ah, my mistake.



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 11:49 AM
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Originally posted by ShadowXIX
Looks like a nice sub, Russia always made really nice subs

Hey Russia might be willing to unload some older subs on the market now. But I doubt Russia is going to sell its newest toy to anyone. Countries tend to keep the best of high ticket items like this for themselves and if anything sell a nerfed version.


I might be mistaken but its my understanding that the russians have never been that good at building subs. I thought that russian subs were always far far louder than the american subs until a spy realised how easily the americans could detect the subs and since then the've got quieter.

I also thought that selling subs was one of russias millitaries biggest sources of income. Also if russia are as desperate for money as everyone seems to think then they probhably will sell there newest sub but will sell it for an increased price. The more of the P-IX SSN's they sell the more the price will decrease for them, so they would be foolish not to sell them.

Justin



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 12:05 PM
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Originally posted by justin_barton3
I might be mistaken but its my understanding that the russians have never been that good at building subs. I thought that russian subs were always far far louder than the american subs until a spy realised how easily the americans could detect the subs and since then the've got quieter.


Yes, A soviet spy passed on some of the " burn bags " from Allied SOSUS intercepts. The Soviets had no idea they were being tracked up until then.



I also thought that selling subs was one of russias millitaries biggest sources of income. Also if russia are as desperate for money as everyone seems to think then they probhably will sell there newest sub but will sell it for an increased price. The more of the P-IX SSN's they sell the more the price will decrease for them, so they would be foolish not to sell them.


Russia would never sell it's latest SSN to another vountry. All teh dubs they have sold are teh SSK's, conventional subs. They have never sold a nuclear sub, only leased an Akula and Charlie SSN to the Indians.
There are some things worth more than money, such as maintaining an edge over your rivals.



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 12:36 PM
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Originally posted by orangetom1999
Most muslims have little respect for godless athiests.
Thanks,
Orangetom


Their no more godless than any other country Tom.
They have been opening churches in Russia ( Orthodox Christian obviously) since the late 70's despite what you might have read....

Stellar

[edit on 15-2-2006 by StellarX]



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 01:06 PM
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Originally posted by rogue1


There are some things worth more than money, such as maintaining an edge over your rivals.


I understand the need to maintaining an edge over your rivals but surely if they sold 10-20 P-IX SSN's to various middle and far eastern countries then they would have enough money to develoup there own subs a bit more. In this way they would lose their edge for a few years but would regain there edge over countries they sold the P-IX SSN's to and would extend their technological advantage over the countries they did not sell the P-IX SSN's to. Also if as i think, they are a fair way behind the us in terms of sub technology then surely they need to take a few minor risks to try and catch up with the us.

Also if they dont sell new millitary technology to india and places then surely the indians will look to the us, china or europe for more advanced subs.

Also while the us have so many enemies uin the middle and far east if the russians sold a few high tech subs then that would give the us a few extra problems, and if one of their exported P-IX SSN's sunk a us sub or ship then what better advertising campaign would you need to help sell russian technology.

Justin

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[edit on 15-2-2006 by justin_barton3]



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by justin_barton3


I might be mistaken but its my understanding that the russians have never been that good at building subs. I thought that russian subs were always far far louder than the american subs until a spy realised how easily the americans could detect the subs and since then the've got quieter.



Well the US subs might still have the edge in sound emissions but thats really all speculation those true stats are still quite secret. I dont believe they ever really needed to be that quiet though as I think their warplans called for their SSBN's to launch their weapons well inside soviet waters behind minefields and ASW hunter killer groups.


I believe the Russian Alpha class was the fastest and deepest diving military class sub in the world. The Russian have also by far made the largest military submarines in the world.



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