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Originally posted by Fett Pinkus
Lets put it this way : those troops now in Afganistan and the kosovo are probably the best equiped and best trained out of the whole lot .
Originally posted by WestPoint23
Hmm... first I began to contemplate the vast amount of assets and firepower that such a collective coalition would bring, but then I realized that it would be pointless to do so, a coalition such as this would most likely never form against Iran.
Lets start with the French, they have proven throughout modem history that they are unwilling to act unless the threat is right on their border, this is a terrible way to fight a war or confront an enemy. In this instance the French will only give Iran empty threats and prolong the status quo as long as they can before they are forced to act. Again this is a failed doctrine, sure you may enjoy relative peace for the time being but you will later be forced to react and fight on Iran's terms when they could possibly have greater weapons, including Nuclear.
Then there are the Germans, while the Germans in my opinion share virtually the same view as the French they I believe are a bit more willing to pursue other options, including the military option. However in order for them to actually commit to a military solution certain unrealistic circumstances have to be in place.
Circumstances such as Iran openly admitting its Nuclear program is for military purposes, and Iran directly threatening Europe, as you can see these two things will most likely never happen.
And Finally there's the UK, while I hold the UK in high regard for its pro active policy toward current and future threats I am unsure what it would take for them to commit to another military conflict. To the best of my estimate I think that unless there is clear and deceive evidence that Iran does indeed have plans to build a nuclear weapon the UK will understandably not participate in any military action against it. This I believe is due to the Iraq war and all the subsequent consequences of it, I think the British will want to be absolutely certain before they commit to nay action against Iran.
So where doe this leave us? Well of course you have the lone ranger, also known as the US. While Israel may join the US is bombing Iran the rest of the world it seems to me will likely sit this one out and watch from the sidelines.
Originally posted by WestPoint23
Sorry, but I don't see a need to discuss pointless and unrealistic what if’s, I already explained why I didn't go that route.
Originally posted by devilwasp
Originally posted by Fett Pinkus
Lets put it this way : those troops now in Afganistan and the kosovo are probably the best equiped and best trained out of the whole lot .
Thanks mate, want to insult the guys in africa now?
Originally posted by Derek Trance
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Then we are going to blow up all your facilities by air and go have a nap.
I highly doubt there will be any ground action at all.
And I believe the coaltition has alot to bring to the table if it goes that route.
-DT
Originally posted by sexymon
It was mentioned on the news in passing that the US first strike on Iran's nuclear facilities would be carried out with B2 bombers based by the Indian Ocean. Second possibility, if needed would be US B2's from the east coast...
Originally posted by sweatmonicaIdo
Originally posted by WestPoint23
Sorry, but I don't see a need to discuss pointless and unrealistic what if’s, I already explained why I didn't go that route.
Nah, I am sorry you wasted your time.
To all others participating in the discussion, what exactly are France and Germany's current power-projection capabilities? devilwasp already mentioned the aircraft carriers. However, France and Germany do have strong air forces. Does the Eurofighter factor in within the next five years?
Originally posted by Sandman210372
Nah, I am sorry you wasted your time.
To all others participating in the discussion, what exactly are France and Germany's current power-projection capabilities? devilwasp already mentioned the aircraft carriers. However, France and Germany do have strong air forces. Does the Eurofighter factor in within the next five years?
WP also does not discuss when he has no facts to back his case. He also does not discuss when the actual facts disprove his unfounded opinion. In fact the only time he does discuss is when it is in praise of GWB or the USA.
Devil,
Do not bother yourself with someone who patently has no clue as to what actually happened in either WW1 or 2 and has acquired what knowledge they do have from war movies starring John Wayne.
Cheers
S
[edit on 15-2-2006 by Sandman210372]