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CIA Involvement in drug smuggling.

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posted on Feb, 12 2006 @ 11:31 AM
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Theres so much information on this its unbeliveable! ITs not just the CIA it extends to Scotland Yard in England and other agencies as well! Heres some info.

What do you guys think?


LA Weekly December 20, 1996
Pg. 16

NEW DOPE ON THE CONTRA-CRACK CONNECTION:

MYSTERY MAN LISTER HAD TIES TO U.S. INTELLIGENCE, AS DID HIS PARTNERS

BY NICK SCHOU

The principals in the case have all completed prison terms, and none has ever
provided a full accounting of his schemes. But new evidence revealed in the
past week provides important details that illuminate possible links between
U.S.intelligence and the shadowy network alleged to have sold drugs in Los
Angeles to finance the illicit contra war in Nicaragua.

The drug wholesaler in the scheme was Danilo Blandon, a contra supporter and
convicted trafficker who says he started in the trade to fund the contras, but
stayed in the game solely for profit. Blandon s primary retailer, according to
evidence presented at trial this year, was Donnell Freeway Ricky Ross, a
notorious crack racketeer recently sentenced to life in prison.

Another player in Blandon s operation is just coming into focus. Ronald J.
Lister was first linked to Blandon during a series of investigative raids
conducted by the Sheriff s Department in 1986. Lister was recently identified
as the source of a wide range of arms and electronic intelligence gear to
Blandon and Ross. Now, more is coming out.

visit source for full article


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[edit on 12-2-2006 by dbates]




posted on Feb, 12 2006 @ 11:49 AM
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Guess it helps the cia fund their black projects illegally. (allegedly)



posted on Feb, 12 2006 @ 01:19 PM
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Com on now, our own CIA involved in drug-smuggling? It sounds of hearsy to me.



posted on Feb, 12 2006 @ 01:27 PM
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Sad, so sad, I hope that this is relinquished as soon as possible.
Surely, maybe they should join in with the
drug companies and get paid through insurances,if they are
just going to continue their prolific adventures
of the drug trade.
The drug [pharmacy companies put so much on the market-that does not really get to FDA or other routes, maybe this drug would help people
better and stop some of the ugliness inside the drug companies
that [lie,steal,cheat,put illegal drugs to all the people.
California, wher I live passed the marijuana use, perhaps we should think
about passing the Cocaine trade-for medical use- and for
doctors,pharmacy,and insuirance companies.
After all, it's a medicine, and it would knock off that
other bad street drug trade- heroin, and tar, and the meth, and a few others.
Our children in US suffer horribly at almost every town across uS.
Drug trade is worse than war right now.

Originally posted by Rebel_Lion

Theres so much information on this its unbeliveable! ITs not just the CIA it extends to Scotland Yard in England and other agencies as well! Heres some info.

What do you guys think?


LA Weekly December 20, 1996
Pg. 16

NEW DOPE ON THE CONTRA-CRACK CONNECTION:

MYSTERY MAN LISTER HAD TIES TO U.S. INTELLIGENCE, AS DID HIS PARTNERS

BY NICK SCHOU

The principals in the case have all completed prison terms, and none has ever
provided a full accounting of his schemes. But new evidence revealed in the
past week provides important details that illuminate possible links between
U.S.intelligence and the shadowy network alleged to have sold drugs in Los
Angeles to finance the illicit contra war in Nicaragua.




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[edit on 12-2-2006 by dbates]



posted on Feb, 14 2006 @ 12:28 PM
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Money is a very powerful, very manipulative thing. It's hypocritical but makes millions. It's a shame.



posted on Feb, 14 2006 @ 01:20 PM
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They should legalize it in my opinion. Everyone does it (apart from me). Its as though its just another reason to criminalize others. If it was legal no one would care about it or even want to do it... it just wouldn't be cool.



posted on Feb, 14 2006 @ 04:43 PM
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Let's not forget Barry Seal, the CIA officer who was something like the U.S.' biggest drug smuggler of all time. Assassinated after allegedly claiming he had footage of Jeb and George Bush smuggling drugs that he could use as blackmail/protection. Also allegedly had George H.W. Bush's direct line phone number in the trunk of his car when he was murdered.

He's been covered somewhat on ATS but I'll try to find some links as well.



posted on Feb, 14 2006 @ 05:10 PM
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Originally posted by Rebel_Lion

They should legalize it in my opinion.



No, the CIA should have never introduced crack into the US in the first place. All the people on ATS that start countless "muslim" or "muslim riots" must work for the govenment IMO, cause the fact the US govenment sell drugs should be of more concern ?.



posted on Feb, 14 2006 @ 07:58 PM
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It should be legalized for many reasons, one of them being that it will hurt the CIA smuggling operation by lowering the value of drugs.



posted on Feb, 14 2006 @ 08:39 PM
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Was the CIA ever involved in Drug Traffiking? I would have to say yes. I've heard stories, dont know all the facts, but I'm pretty sure it took place in Central and South America. Something to do with some of the Cartels, maybe working with one to knock out another? Anyone know the extent of the CIA involvement in the drug trade in S. America or anywhere else?



posted on Feb, 14 2006 @ 10:30 PM
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Originally posted by LoganCale
It should be legalized for many reasons, one of them being that it will hurt the CIA smuggling operation by lowering the value of drugs.


are you talking about pot or coke ?

[edit on 14-2-2006 by helium3]



posted on Feb, 14 2006 @ 10:37 PM
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Originally posted by LoganCale
Let's not forget Barry Seal, the CIA officer who was something like the U.S.' biggest drug smuggler of all time. Assassinated after allegedly claiming he had footage of Jeb and George Bush smuggling drugs that he could use as blackmail/protection. Also allegedly had George H.W. Bush's direct line phone number in the trunk of his car when he was murdered.


I've never heard that story. I'd be curious who put it out...

Barry Seal flew drugs into an airport in Mena, ARKANSAS, while Bill Clinton was governor. All of the rumors I've heard regarding Seal have centered around possible connections with Clinton, including that a check made out to Clinton was found in the trunk of his car. That's all old news, dating back at least to the "Clinton Body Count" days. Seal was murdered on Feb. 19, 1986.

In browsing the web just now, I've found a few references to money theoretically funneled from the Mena operation into funding the Contras, which would potentially involve (Clinton's new best friend) Bush Sr., but no mention of either Dubya or Jeb.


On the broader subject-- suffice it to say that it's no coincidence that, in the 1960s, when heroin was the smuggler's drug of choice, the US suddenly developed an interest in "bringing democracy" to Southeast Asia, then in the 80s, when coc aine was the smuggler's drug of choice, the US suddenly developed an interest in "bringing democracy" to Central America.

Nor, for that matter, is it a coincidence that we felt the need to flex our muscles in the Balkans (the overland route for drugs smuggled from Central Asia and the Middle East into Europe), nor that we later felt the need to flex our muscles in Afghanistan (the opium poppy capital of the world), particularly after Russia failed in their own attempt to flex their muscles there.

Illegal narcotics are arguably the most profitable commodity on the planet. Personally, I think that's no accident either. The connection between Prohibition and the rise of organized crime is well known and well documented, and I think it's a safe bet that that lesson was not lost on power mongers in and out of the government.

I also think it's a safe bet that the major players in the narcotics business are just as well known and just as well-connected in government circles as the major players in any other industry. Those who earn the ire of the government (the Medellins, Noriega) probably do so by NOT cutting the government, via the CIA, in on the action.



posted on Feb, 14 2006 @ 10:59 PM
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The wikipedia article on Barry Seal contains the following:


Sam Dalton, the New Orleans attorney who represented the Colombian hit men who killed Seal in the penalty phase of their trial, subpoenaed the CIA about what he suspected was its complicity in Seal's assassination. "We were trying to subpoena the CIA because we felt like they had documents, exhibits, and evidence that would indicate complicity in Seal's assassination," Dalton said.

Through discovery, Dalton's investigation gained access to the contents of the trunk of Barry Seal's Cadillac on the night he died, and discovered that before the FBI did turn it over they had obviously ransacked it first. Even so Dalton stated "they had missed a few things that indicated just how valuable that trunk was. Because that's where that phone number was. That's where we found George Bush's private phone number...they were regularly talking to each other very seriously over what was probably a secure phone...

en.wikipedia.org...


That article sources this article mirrored from a 1997 edition of The Washington Weekly.


Lewis Unglesby is today one of the most powerful and well-known attorneys in Louisiana. But back in 1986, he was just a 36-year-old lawyer who represented Barry Seal, and who, Unglesby himself admits, was made by Seal to operate on a "need-to-know basis."

"I sat him down one time," recalls Unglesby, talking about his relationship with Seal, "and said: I cannot represent you effectively unless I know what is going on. Barry smiled, and gave me a number, and told me to call it, and identify myself as him (Seal.)

I dialed the number, a little dubiously, and a pleasant female voice answered: 'Office of the Vice President.'"

www.idfiles.com...


I did a quick Google search regarding the video and I found this:


According to LAPD whistleblower Michael C. Ruppert, the Drug Enforcement Agency has in its possession a video of George W. Bush and Jeb Bush flying in to Tamiami Airport outside of Miami, Florida "to pick up a couple of kilos of powder for a party." (From the Wilderness Newsletter; $35 / yr; FTW Publications, PO Box 6061-350, Sherman Oaks, CA 91413).

Ruppert heard about it from Terry Reed, author of Compromised: Clinton, Bush and the CIA (1994). "I was with Terry recently at a public speaking engagement where he reminded the audience of a little passage from his book Compromised," writes Ruppert. "In that passage he describes how Barry Seal had told him that he had 'insurance' in the form of proof that the Bush Boys were doing heavy drugs."

www.umsl.edu...


So I'm not sure about the reliability of all of these sources, but I do trust the stuff quoting the lawyers myself. Would be nice to talk to them in present times and see what they have to say about it these days.

Hope I didn't quote sources too much.



posted on Feb, 14 2006 @ 11:04 PM
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Originally posted by helium3
are you talking about pot or coke ?


All drugs. ESPECIALLY marijuana. I'd never use them myself, not even marijuana. I don't even smoke or drink. But I feel that if someone wants to kill themselves off with drugs that should be their choice and the government shouldn't interfere. I think it will fix a lot of problems. No longer will gangs and other criminals be the only source of the drugs, giving them a much lesser power over communities. Also, the people who want to try it because it's illegal will be much less over time. And it cuts into the CIA illegal activities. And in the meantime, the government should increase education on the negative aspects of all these drugs, including cigarettes and alcohol.



posted on Feb, 17 2006 @ 08:39 AM
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To me, this seems like a topic that comes up time and time again.

When researching and just generally surfing on many conspiracy topics, it always amazes me that an article, a website or brief comment is always to be found concerning the CIA and its link with drug smuggling.
This involvement appears to bind together everything and when you think it's hard to accomplish anything without money, maybe this is the one thing that holds together all conspiracy subjects. As has been stated many times before... follow the money.

Ufo's, JFK, 911 etc etc; ok, all subjects that are a little "out there", but so is the alleged involvement of a government organization smuggling drugs.

No smoke without fire!

Also to note, its amazing what same names "pop-up" continually.

A few links below that I just found quickly.

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posted on Feb, 17 2006 @ 08:54 AM
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Originally posted by simon_alex0327
To me, this seems like a topic that comes up time and time again.


why wouldn't it? the article the whole thread is based on was published in 1996.



posted on Feb, 17 2006 @ 09:12 AM
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Exactly, but the involvement goes back further than when the article was published in 1996.

Too much evidence for just hearsay, a point I was trying to make how deep and complex this involvement really is.
On the surface, their involvement is to stop drug running, but upon looking further, something more sinister is at work.



posted on Feb, 17 2006 @ 02:30 PM
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More sinister? What could be more sinister than a CIA smuggling drugs in a nation with ~ 400,000 in prison for using and selling them?

And it's the reason the failed Drug War will continue. Legalization threatens the CIA cartel.



posted on Feb, 17 2006 @ 02:42 PM
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Hello Friends:

I'm not surprissed, and let me tell you guys it is nothing
new. During the Viet-nam war the C.I.A. were moving and
dealing drugs out of Cambodia and Laos with a groups of small
aircrafts the group was know as "Air America"



posted on Feb, 17 2006 @ 04:18 PM
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Yes, law enforcement has made good off of illegal sales of alcohol and drugs, and probably tobacco and firearms as well, for a long, long time. Those quaint speak-easys of the Prohibition days were an open secret. You can still go into them under Seattle.

Protection has always had its price whether it involves the legal mafia or the cosa nostra.



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