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Right...and like I said, doctors think they are above such "menial" tasks as assuring that their patients are safe. If doctors cared more about their patients, then maybe they could keep such horrible things from happening. If they are performing the operation, the bottom line is, they are responsible for everything that goes on in that surgery....from what is put in to what is taken out....all the responsibility of the surgeon.
Exitable, would you expect the mechanic that fixes your car to know where the parts came from, or their history?
Of course not, as long as it's the right part and it works then the mech has no further obligation, other than fitting the part. The parts dep. are responsible.
Originally posted by Excitable_Boy
This is a pretty scary analogy. Comparing the human body to a car. A doctor is working on a human being, not a mechanical device. Huge difference and the analogy doesn't work at all.
I am also wondering if perhaps there are some doctors involved in this conspiracy since a normal layman does not have the expertise to remove veins, tendons and heart valves?
The acquisition and sale of body tissues is big business. Experts say sales of skin tissues and human transplant parts exceed $500 million a year. Bones, tendons, veins, and heart valves from just one cadaver can net more than $220,000, the Orange County Register newspaper found in 2000.
Egypt's general prosecutor is investigating allegations that an organisation charged with caring for homeless children has been killing them, and selling their body parts for profits.
A dead body can be worth tens of thousands of dollars when it is dissected for parts.
Do you really think a doc, all scrubbed and patient on the table, is then going to refuse a part that looks perfectly healthy?
The doctor has to trust the supplier and the hostpital staff, they have no choice at that point.
Maybe now this story is out though, some doctors I'm sure will be asking more questions in the future
It would be nice, and it would help you avoid coming off as a horses behind, if you could acknowledge salient points made by other posters, even if they contradict, correctly, what you have previously posted.
Or do you have a problem admitting you may have been mistaken
The claims arise out of the Alder Hey scandal of the late 1990s, when the Royal Liverpool Children's Hospital was accused of removing deceased children's organs without their parents' knowledge.
You are correct in that there is definitely some illegal activity going on that involves the medical profession and some doctors
India probably ranks in the top among countries that are
becoming great organ bazaars of the world. With the average
monthly income of $11 a month for an Indian worker, especially in
a background of vast destitute underclass, trade in kidneys has
boomed so rapidly that in each of the last five years 2,000 or more
kidney's have changed bodies. Moreover, of the total kidney
transplants, almost 10% are estimated to have commercial
considerations involved in "donation." In some cities it is as
high as 95%.
The players in the above kidney trade are the doctors who
usually charge $1,660 for the surgery, agents who seek out
potential donors, and the paid donors who are mostly poor watchmen,
laborers, or mechanics, and for whom the price paid for an organ
could be more than they could save in a lifetime.
Originally posted by bsl4doc
Considering you had the procedure in January 2005 and have yet to see any negative effects, I'm going to go out on a limb and say you're okay. Your doctor probably isn't returning your calls because he has enough to worry about already with stuff like, oh I don't know, surgeries?! hehe.
from link above
Prosecutors said the defendants took organs from people who had not given consent or were too old or too sick to donate. The defendants forged consent forms and altered the death certificates to indicate the victims had been younger and healthier, authorities said.
Prosecutors said the body parts were sold to tissue suppliers and ultimately used in disk replacements, knee operations, dental implants and a variety of other surgical procedures performed by unsuspecting doctors across the United States and in Canada.
The bodies came from funeral homes in New York City, Rochester, Philadelphia and New Jersey that contracted with the Brooklyn funeral parlor for embalming. Prosecutors said more arrests were possible.
Michael Mastromarino, an oral surgeon who went into the tissue business after losing his dentist license
Lee Crucetta, a nurse, ....... allegedly helped.
Nicelli was paid up to $1,000 per body to deliver corpses to a secret operating room at his funeral parlor, where Mastromarino would remove body parts, authorities said.
"Here's a convicted felon who could pretty much go anywhere in the country and open a tissue recovery agency," complained one tissue banker who refused to work with him, Ken Richardson of Nevada Donor Network. "That illustrates some of the problems with our existing regulatory structure."
Federal officials shut down this flesh-and-bone prospector in Raleigh, N.C., earlier this month, saying his products posed a danger to public health.
By then, he had supplied hundreds of tissues for knee repairs, spine surgeries and other medical procedures around the nation, many of them allegedly procured in an unsterile funeral home embalming room.