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Originally posted by intrepid
Originally posted by Toelint
Well, if you consider the political process itself a winner, then sure. I mean hey, it beats having to put up with a king and all that. (unless you're one of those who believes we're still the property of Great Britain. Then you're REALLY out of luck!)
I think you missed the point, you seem to think you have a choice in your political proccess. WHOEVER wins answers to someone other than the voter. THAT'S my point. Same coin, different sides.
Originally posted by Umbrax
I think this spills onto ATS thanks to the mainstream media. Network news in general has stopped reporting only the facts. Now it seems that "news" personalities are more important than the issues themselves. This really goes against the spirit of ATS.
Originally posted by Gools
... For some reason it appears that large numbers of people will support who they voted for no matter what they do. They "identify" themselves with a party and vote for them out of some kind of false belief that they are "like them" or that if they change they are somehow flawed for having made a mistake or it would be an admission of guilt for a bad choice. The notions of loyalty and treason runs deep in the American psyche built around "patriotism".
This kind of rally behind the "dear leader"attitude (i.e. leader worship)comes from playing identity politics in a society that places so much emphasis on always winning, being the winner and stomping your opponents into the ground.
The need to be on the winning team drives people to overlook the obvious, strike without thinking and even blindly follow the team captain over the cliff, cheering for their team the whole way.
I don't think I have ever heard a Senator or Representative say, "the majority of my constituents have requested that I vote against this, and even though I want to vote for it, I am going to follow what the people who elected me tell me to do."