A Glimpse Inside the Sordid World of the American Sex Slave

I'd just like to add that the age of consent is totally irrelevant in this thread. This is about woman and children being forced into something without their consent. That is the problem.

I don't think the age of consent no matter what it is would change the problem.

Just remember folks, if you don't want the rath of certain good men coming down on you, declaring you crazy, paranoid etc., NEVER suggest that ANY of these thousands of Child Sex Slaves trafficed around the world, are bought and used by Satanists, Occultists, Masons or any other "respected", "enlightened" people.

Didn't you know that this Multi Billion Dollar International Industry is run by and for, a few "emotionally disturbed" teenagers who dabble in SRA.

No self respecting Satanist, Occultist or others of that ilk, would be caught dead ritually abusing or sacrificing a child....because those who are out to do the catching, seem to always end up dead before their proof can end up on record.

So don't worry, all you sickos, yet another thread on this topic has been up for days and not filled one page yet, no one "important" is coming after you, they're too scared of losing all that power of blackmail, and lovely money that trickles down from the International Sex Slave Industry.

I'm not going to differentiate between the people who take part in this. Satanists, whatever. They are, however, sick, sick, sick people who need to be investigated and prosecuted NOW.

The Washington Times alleged elements of the Franklin Coverup Scandal went up to the level of Bush Sr. I don't know whether they were alleging that he was involved or just knew of it. And I don't know the credibility of that statement, HOWEVER... Craig J. Spence was able to get into the White House at 1 AM and give a tour with some of his underage prostitutes. I'm going to look and see if there's a truly in-depth thread on that scandal on ATS... if there isn't, there needs to be one that brings all the facts together. Perhaps I'll work on that. I've been collecting them all for the wikipedia articles I'm working on.

The fact is, most people scoff at the news of this and either don't believe it or don't hear about it. If everyone in the country knew about some of these things, there would be public outrage and something might get done to help stop it.

Originally posted by WyrdeOne

Your love for the administration is so great you're willing to look the other way while they use our tax dollars to pad the pockets of slavers?

oh ...its not love... its mpoeny...Bush pays me to come here and waste my time reading about crazy conspiracies and defend him...

anyway, sadly the sex slave trade market is as old as prostitution ( well it IS protitution). As to the adminstration, they have tried to pass a law to further control porn websites, and web-sites visted by pedophyles but they once more were stopped, becasue some baffons ( guess from what wing) claimed it is agaisnt the citizens rights and it would be spying on the ppl ...

As to the previous adminstration, yes ...indeed they cared alot about sexual abuse ... so much that the President himself tried some in the White House.

Originally posted by BaastetNoir
As to the adminstration, they have tried to pass a law to further control porn websites, and web-sites visted by pedophyles but they once more were stopped, becasue some baffons ( guess from what wing) claimed it is agaisnt the citizens rights and it would be spying on the ppl ...

Pornography is not illegal. They should be focusing on dealing with child pornography, which actually exploits people. Legal pornography is far less of an issue and what they want to do IS against people's rights and IS spying on people. And please, please don't make this a partisan issue. All that's going to do is start stupid, pointless argument that will accompish nothing.

Everytime I read about this sort of thing it never ceases to amaze me.

Also, I find it somewhat revolting that people are willing to throw their arms up in the air and say "The parents should keep better watch of their children".

The girl was abducted from her driveway.


her DRIVEWAY!


Why should children have to fear the ground a few feet outside their front door?

W.O. you don't understand; watching kids is such a hassle! Why, that interferes with the Nip/Tuck shows and other entertainment. Why, that sounds like WORK! We merely want the idea of kids, not the actual hassle of rearing them. You mean to say we should rear them and not raise them like cattle?

As far as getting our own house in order before thenext part of the continuing war, that is impossible. The enemy will not give us that much time. Heck, I don't think anyone has that much time to give to us.

No, she should not have been worried about her own driveway, but, when I was growing up, had someone tried to snatch one of the kids out of my neighborhood, at LEAST one of the adults would have seen the situation occur and the cops would have met the car before it got near the town JD.

Something to be said about the old days. Other than they are gone.


[edit on 12-2-2006 by Thomas Crowne]

I agree. Don't get me wrong, parents these days are often preoccupied and not paying much attention to their kids. Not all parents, of course, but some. But parents are not to blame for the evils of child molesters.

Yes, parents should pay more attention to their children. But we as a country and world also need to deal with the scum who are the real problem. The scum who take children AND adults as sexual or labor slaves. Any companies who are found doing this need to be disbanded and the people responsible inside should be arrested. Any individuals who are taking part in it need to be arrested. I'm going to do more research on KBR and DynCorp's involvement in this and urge others to do so as well and post their findings here.

No doubt this must be stopped. Yes, the government should be taking action to stop the pervs who engage in this behavior but the primary responsbility for children's safety lies with the family unit. While it is true some of these innocents are betrayed by the very people who are supposed to protect them most children aren't. It is my responsibility as a mother to raise a strong, indepentdent child able to make sound decisions and protect herself. It is equally my reponsiblity to do whatever it takes to keep her safe and well.. All adults should take reponsibilty to protect children whether you are related to them or not. Children are our future and must be protected by all of us. I apolgize for getting on my soap box, I'll get off now.

Here's a link explaining how women and children are an Internationally Traded Commodity
sisyphe.org...
and we all know how hard it is to get Governments and big business to agree to put justice above profits.

Too many people make too much money from this industry for it to do anything but grow, and anyone who plays down the involvment of the the elite of society lands firmly on my "suspect" list.

So why don't all news outlets keep a, 'name and shame' list of those convicted of being child sex 'tourists'? Would it be too hard for others to keep "doing business" with them after they've done their too short time?

Originally posted by WyrdeOne
We've got to put our own house in order, I think, before committing ourselves to yet another war on foreign soil.

While I agree that this is a horrific problem, it is nothing new to this country as the article states. The reason we don't do anything substantial is that the business world don't care and the governmetn don't care. I am not bashing them, I'm just saying that they are too big to care. There are countless cases that can be shown where things change for the better when a community at a grassroots level gets involves that crime tends to disappear locally. If this mentality were applied around the states and cities and towns then we could really do something. It is as I have always said, people are lazy and don't want to get involved all we want to do is sit motoring our mouths about how "bad it is" and then blame government when it doesn't do what we think it should. Shame on us for not doing more in spite of "the man" not doing his part. Find an outreach program and get engaged to help your fellows, stop complaining and, as Nike says, "Just do it".

Originally posted by WyrdeOne

abcnews.go.com...

Fifteen-year-old "Debbie" is the middle child in a close-knit Air Force family from suburban Phoenix, and a straight-A student — the last person most of us would expect to be forced into the seamy world of sex trafficking.

But Debbie, which is not her real name, is one of thousands of young American girls who authorities say have been abducted or lured from their normal lives and made into sex slaves. While many Americans have heard of human trafficking in other parts of the world — Thailand, Cambodia, Latin America and eastern Europe, for example — few people know it happens here in the United States.

The FBI estimates that well over 100,000 children and young women are trafficked in America today. They range in age from 9 to 19, with the average age being 11.

Average age being 11...

There is a sickness, and without attention it will continue to fester and spread. People have got to get serious about protecting their children, God knows the government can't/won't take action for the most part.

Parents have to take responsibility for the welfare of their children, simple as that.

A bigger issue, perhaps, is the continuing denial on the part of all the uber-patriots hanging around. They talk big regarding issues of terrorism and nationalistic pride, but they refuse to account for the problems growing all around us. This country may be the greatest country in the world..but that's not saying much given the current state of human affairs.

We've got to put our own house in order, I think, before committing ourselves to yet another war on foreign soil.

You're damn right. If there's one good reason for families to raise their overall security measures, it's for protecting their childrens! THey should even watch what's happening to them at school, and never let them travel on their own, even if their kids are in the comapny of other kids, may it even be for going at school. The government must NOT be trusted any longer, since it has let the problem grow that big!

Those who are parents here please pay attention to this!

Originally posted by LazarusTheLong
For the history of Pedophilia, look to the worlds religions, and the worlds traditions...
India: married from pre-adolescent
middle east: having sex with young boys is common
christianity: look to exodus, and leviticus for really great ways to sell your daughter...
tribal religions: common place for interfamily marriages, as well as marriages of old men, and young girls...
shamanic religions (american indian): incest between father-daughter or brother/sister is considered rampant in some tribes.

So is this just a problem of these sickos?... or almost every non-first world country?

These historical facts have nothing to do with paedophilia of child abduction/slavery.

We're talking about prepubescent young kids here, forced or influenced into sexual abuse, not about relations between adults and 14 years old with the consent of parents. Never in history paedophilia has been deemed normal or instutionalized in a society of any kind... this is one of the very few behaviors that are totally unnatural and devious in all social contexts. It's not a sexual preference, it is a grievous deviance based on sexual frustrations with womens of the same age... paedophiles are proven to all have problems with ordinary sexuality.

God knows the government can't/won't take action for the most part.

Rather interesting statement ...

www.rainbowcenteroly.org...

In the current debate on same-sex marriage conservative Christians argue that same-sex marriage violates traditional, biblical marriage. However, traditional marriage is actually not consistent with biblical marriage. Marriage as portrayed in the Bible is frequently polygamous, between cousins and arranged by family members. Furthermore, archaeological records demonstrate that a man's average age at marriage in ancient Israel was the late 20s and 30s, while a bride was normally 12 to 16 years old.

While I don't condone such act's as pedophilism, but when religous folk chime in ... I wonder if they truelly know they're own history.

Originally posted by LoganCale
Pornography is not illegal. They should be focusing on dealing with child pornography, which actually exploits people. Legal pornography is far less of an issue and what they want to do IS against people's rights and IS spying on people. And please, please don't make this a partisan issue. All that's going to do is start stupid, pointless argument that will accompish nothing.

I did not say Pornography is illigal, I said the Admnistartion attempt to pass a lwa that would make it harder for minors to access porn web-site but is was refuted [as always) by Mr. Kennedy, Mr. Kerry and Mrs Clinton amongst other of their puppets

Three points:

1. I think it's more the parent's responsibility to try and prevent their children from seeing pornography.
2. Is it really going to harm someone if they see naked people while they're growing up?
3. I'm surprised Hillary voted against such a thing, as she's usually for things to supposedly "protect the children."

Originally posted by LoganCale
Three points:

1. I think it's more the parent's responsibility to try and prevent their children from seeing pornography.

I totally agree, but sadly many parents have turned Internet in their babysitter, and you would be surprised but my 11 nice (with SPAM blockers and Parental e-mail controls) has received plenty of S&M adds.

2. Is it really going to harm someone if they see naked people while they're growing up?

Of course not... the "first" thing a baby sees is a mothers breast, and later in school there are Biology books... its not " seeing naked ppl " that is harfull, its waht the ppl are doing weather they are naked or not.

I dont think it is appropriate for a 10, 11, 14, 15... to watch taoes or website where ppl are giving and receiving oral sex or intercourse do you ? even tho most 14 or 15 years olds these days know very well what it is, and are probably performin it ... still i dont think its apropriate.

3. I'm surprised Hillary voted against such a thing, as she's usually for things to supposedly "protect the children."

yeah...isn't she lovelly when she wants to reun for th White House..., and a sweet lady she is ... the partial abortion defender... its very protective of children to stick a niddle in the back of a baby's skull and suck the brain out.....

Originally posted by Echtelion
It's not a sexual preference, it is a grievous deviance based on sexual frustrations with womens of the same age... paedophiles are proven to all have problems with ordinary sexuality.

Do not make the mistake of thinking that paedophiles are allways men, womem can be paedophiles too.

Originally posted by BaastetNoir
I dont think it is appropriate for a 10, 11, 14, 15... to watch taoes or website where ppl are giving and receiving oral sex or intercourse do you ? even tho most 14 or 15 years olds these days know very well what it is, and are probably performin it ... still i dont think its apropriate.

While I think it should be worked on to prevent their accidental viewing of such things (porn sites that are misspellings of popular sites kids would go to and similar things), I don't think it will really cause someone harm to see it. Just my opinion. I stumbled across some pretty bad things online when I was younger, but I don't consider myself to be emotionally scarred or anything because of it.

yeah...isn't she lovelly when she wants to reun for th White House...

, and a sweet lady she is ... the partial abortion defender... its very protective of children to stick a niddle in the back of a baby's skull and suck the brain out.....

I don't like Hillary either and I'm against abortion AND I'm against her point of view that the state should have more power over children than parents. That's why it surprised me that she would be against this.

My attitude with my kids is always the attitude that healthy herd animals have: make sure you are not the easiest target in the field. You cannot keep total watch on your kids 24/7.

But when you drop in un-announced at school, when you look around accasionally to see who is staring at your kid on the playground. When you teach your kids to have a plan, and be aware of the nearest stranger . . . . you have a better chance of making sure YOUR kid is not the one snatched.

Oh yeah. pray.

On a more general point, the problem is really difficult for law enforcement.

-Children have the least social power in our society, and the least likely to speak up when their rights are violated

-Children are less likely to be taken seriously when they hint that they are being abuse. Children frequently "seek permission" to tell an authority figure about bad things. If the authority figure (teacher, cop, doctor) minimizes the child's attempts to speak up, the child will take the hint and quit talking about it.

-Sexual predators usually devote major energy into perpetrating their crimes; much more so than most drug dealers, pimps, or bank-robbers, for instance. They often are wealthy enough to be able to afford privacy; an old barn, and abandoned warehouse, a basement, etc.

-In all honesty, our justice system is designed to detect criminal transfers of money. Sex crimes, don't primarily involve finances, and so don't send up red flags the way drug or racketeers operations do.

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