posted on Oct, 21 2006 @ 01:55 PM
Originally posted by Paul_Richard
So I see you decided to give up on trying to put down the theory of The Big Bang.
I never was...
Are we to assume then that your are espousing the idea that The Big Bang occurred through evolution? With no Higher Power or God to initiate
I don't know, that's why I'm am agnostic verging on atheist
I prefer Turok & Steinhardt's cyclic model. It needs no higher power
Oh that's right. You really don't know what being an evolutionist is.
Originally posted by melatonin ...isn't 'evolutionist' a vacuous word that has no real meaning?
Only to those who are ignorant to its definition.
And from the definition you linked...
noun 1. a person who believes in or supports a theory of evolution, esp. in biology.
2. a person who supports a policy of gradual growth or development rather than sudden change or expansion.
So, theists, deists, and atheists can be 'evolutionists', which was what I originally thought. Therefore your statement that 'there is no god in
the evolutionist paradigm
' is garbage, you are just referring to atheism.
I understand why you feel the need to associate the two concepts, you and other IDers try to discredit ToE any which way you can. It would be easier
if you just said that.
Originally posted by melatonin
Deists...will reject the 'theory' of intelligent design.
ID has strong Christian and Deist supporters. The very foundation of Deism can be used to further the theory of Intelligent Design.
Are we talking about the 'theory' of intelligent design, you know the one where a god comes down from his cloud and interacts with the world,
creating flagella, blood cascades, consciousness, or just the classical deist god who kicked it all off (which, if you noticed, I said before)? I
understand that deism requires a cosmic-daddy who plays with the 'cosmic universe creator (TM)' machine's knobs to create a universe that allows
the laws of physics to enable life.
Do you now need to have a definition of Christian and Deist?
Nah, I'm happy I know what my version of those are. Not sure about yours though.
[edit on 21-10-2006 by melatonin]