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reply posted on 4-6-2005 @ 11:13 PM by makeitso

There is only one original INTIMIDATOR.

The most effective military aircraft of all time (In terms of military psychological intimidation) was.......

Now hold on don't laugh too hard

The Fokker Dr. I

Dont recognize it?

Maybe you'll recognize the nickname of the man credited with 80 "kills" with it.

What would dogfights be now if it had not been for this giant and legend? They made stories and songs about him and his plane that endure even today.

Red Baron

I knew that would make you smile.

For effective military intelligence gathering.... the one and only SR-71 Blackbird.

But the thought of its early retirement and public display/museum piece bring a tear to my eye, so I can't go on.

*Sob*

reply posted on 5-6-2005 @ 06:45 AM by W4rl0rD

Bf-109

Erich Hartmaan says you can go back to eating Sauerkraut now. 352 kills > 80 kills

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reply posted on 5-6-2005 @ 07:41 AM by prelude

at First let me Admit that I dont have a deep knowledge on military aircrafts But many Russian Pilots say this is the best plane ever made

I dont see much discussions about this variant in this forum .
and sometimes I have a feeling that this bird didnt get her deserved admiration from the International community as did the Mig 29,Mig 21 and Su 27- May be because the Ruissians never sold it to other countries

I see this forum has a lot of guys who share a good knowledge on aircraft progets...so I ll like to know their opinion about this aircraft and who does it compare with other leading aircrafts

has it ever been shot down in an air combat?

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reply posted on 5-6-2005 @ 01:40 PM by SkipShipman

1941 - OA-1
The Cunliffe-Owen Clyde Clipper was built in England under a license from and under the supervision of Vincent Justus Burnelli. The aircraft was used by General Charles de Gaulle during W.W.II.

So you ask the question, " Whats your vote for the most effective military plane ever built..!!" Why Bernelli aircraft as sampled above? Survival plain and simple, or plane and simple, if you understand that airplanes are vulnerable due to their airframe and have been vulnerable for far too long.

For a background in corporations ask yourself questions such as "Why do I have to buy undercoating and rustproofing for my car?" The reason why is because manufacturing thrives on your car wearing out. Another car question, why did the government reduce detergent for almost every motor oil out there? They want your engine oil dirty so you engine will be ruined earlier so you have to buy another car most usually.

The same principle holds true for most aircraft design excepting the blatant rip offs from Benelli, the lifting body aircraft employed by the military. Military planes are exempt from little things such as patents during wars and hereafter.

You see most airplanes are deliberately designed to break apart during crashes that would otherwise be survivable with the Bernelli design. Also you get twice the weight capacity with Bernelli due to its lifting body. Aircraft corporations decided early that this design was too efficient as a threat to the industry to require half the usual manufacturing cycle for the same freight and passenger requirements. Apparently the lure to carry twice as much ordnance was not sufficient for the corporate cartel, who probably did not want to win wars too early anyway.

Well have a good look at Bernelli Aircraft

And also my earlier posting:

Huge Conspiracy Deny Ignorance!:Burnelli Aircraft

[edit on 5-6-2005 by SkipShipman]

reply posted on 8-6-2005 @ 05:40 PM by JIMC5499

My vote has got to be the Grumman A-6 Intruder. Land attack, anti-ship, CAS, tanker and anti-SAM in all weather all around the world. As far as the 82-0 score over Lebanon in the 80's the Arabs should have known better than to direct wire the threat reciever to the ejection seat. Oh wait those were Soviet-made aircraft. Some people need to study their history a little bit better before making certain statements. The atom bombs dropper on Japan probably saved more lives than they took. There was 3 options for dealing with the Japanese mainland at the end of WWII. Option 1 was an invasion, which judging from the mass suicides that took place among the civilian population of Okinawa during its invasion casualties were estimated in the millions.
Option 2 was a blockade of Japan to try to force a surrender by starvation. Again casualties were estimated to be in the millions.
Option 3 was the atomic bomb. It worked.

reply posted on 8-6-2005 @ 05:48 PM by deltaboy

the most effective military plane to me is the P-51 Mustang heck yeah baby, they can help escort the bombers from the UK and bomb the Nazis and take on the Luftwaffe which was the best early in the war.

reply posted on 8-6-2005 @ 07:08 PM by Xar Ke Zeth

The F-82 Twin Mustang.

Unconventional, but it worked, amazingly enough.

Wikipedia
The North American F-82 Twin Mustang was a long-range escort fighter and night fighter. It consisted of two fuselages, based on the P-51H Mustang, mounted on a newly-designed wing. It retained both cockpits and both pilots could fly the aircraft. It first flew in 1945 but did not see service during World War II.

The first two prototypes had Packard built Merlin engines like most P-51s. The third protoype and subsequent production models used Allison V-1710 engines. The production F-82s had contra-rotating propellers.

While originally intended as an escort fighter (B and E variants), the F-82 also saw service as a night fighter equipped with either APS-4 (D and F variants) or SCR-720 (C and G variants) radar. It was a night fighter Twin Mustang that shot down the first MiG-15 jet to be destroyed by an American fighter during the Korean War.

The last flying P-82 stalled and crashed in Harlingen Texas in 1987. That aircraft and one other are currently being restored to flying condition.