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posted on Jul, 23 2010 @ 04:25 PM
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Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
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93!
Actually, it likely way more than the 7 we know of so far.
And, you are right, Crowley is one of the most misunderstood people in the history of the Human species.93/93


Arthur Dromedary.....

OK, you cute little alien you.....

How do you know that?

How was Crowley misunderstood?

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not




posted on Jul, 23 2010 @ 05:16 PM
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I did a project on Aleister Crowley back in Grade 11, for English class. After about 2 days of reading articles and books I started getting this odd gut feeling, especially once it hit the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn and the Illuminati.

Suffice to say I'd failed the project, teacher said the dealings with secret societies was "more rubbish than she's seen in 5 years", however it started the long arduous journey into the occult for me, which has been nearly 5 years now. (I know, I'm a "noob")

Many people I know are very condemning of Aleister for his beliefs, and where his research led him to, however what is the real difference between his path and ours?

Personally I find it to be a "flip of the coin" situation, he took one path due to his curiosity, we take another due to ours. The Occult is a tricky thing.



posted on Jul, 23 2010 @ 05:42 PM
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Originally posted by Diplomat
He lived from 1875-1947 and claimed to have met an angel. His drawing of the angel, named "Lam," has a striking resemblance of a Grey. Here is a link all about it...

www.boudillion.com...

Heard of him, didn't think much of him. I plan on reading one of his books, out of curiosity and research into his frame of mind.



posted on Jul, 23 2010 @ 06:56 PM
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Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
reply to post by ProdigalSon
 

93!
Actually, it likely way more than the 7 we know of so far.
And, you are right, Crowley is one of the most misunderstood people in the history of the Human species.93/93


Arthur Dromedary.....

OK, you cute little alien you.....

How do you know that?

How was Crowley misunderstood?

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not



WHere shall I start?

Back in his day there were several press reports about "The most evil man in the World". None of these reports had any real facts in them, yet they tried to paint a picture of a man who was into all sort of Santanic practice and Rite.

Reality, Crowley never practiced any form of Satinism. It was all the misunderstanding of the press of his time.

Look at the post following yours. It speaks of the "Hermetic Golden Dawn" and the Illuminati. While Crowley was involved with the Golden Dawn, at least until Mathers was ousted in the early years of the 1900's, he was never involved with the Illuminati. Though, it could be misunderstood by the fact that the "Illuminati" is a suborder of the O.T.O. Crowley was the Head of the O.T.O. for some time around the 1920's. Though, the O.T.O.'s "Illuminati" is not the "Illuminati" of present day conspiracy theories.

Look at the modern day perception of Crowley. He is still thought of as an "evil" person, a Satinist, etc. The reality; his teachings are about truth and love, and the finding of One's own "true self" and direction.

If One truly wants to understand how misunderstood Crowley is they would need to study the man for some time.

Etharzi od Oma



posted on Jul, 23 2010 @ 06:58 PM
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One can't "get into his frame of mind" by reading just one of his books. Crowley was far too complex for that.

Etharzi od Oma



posted on Jul, 24 2010 @ 02:43 AM
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mr crowley was definitly a satanist, and proud of it,
i was under the impression he had connections with hitler, rockefellers, and was a big part of the whole nwo sittuation were in now, even in his death. read alot of this somewhere, hope someone else here knows what im referencing cause i cant remember.

otherwise ozzy osbourne knew who he was,
i spent alot of time looking for the official music video i seen on tv all the time but cant find it, it was awesome, anyhow heres a live version.



posted on Jul, 24 2010 @ 02:52 AM
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Yes I have heard of him, and read a good bit about him. I believe he seen and drew a demon, what some people call aliens. Jave you whatched the Fourth Kind? Looks like a demon posession to me. If you study the two subjects they are parellel or to me one in the same just different names.



posted on Jul, 24 2010 @ 03:03 AM
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Originally posted by Melissa101

Jave you whatched the Fourth Kind? Looks like a demon posession to me. If you study the two subjects they are parellel or to me one in the same just different names.


that movie was made to sucker people in an effort to make them more skeptical, it is disinfo and fake.

The Fourth Kind of Lawsuit Twenty thousand reasons not to believe the movie. - movies.ign.com...



posted on Jul, 24 2010 @ 11:38 AM
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Originally posted by yeahright
Want to see some really interesing stuff, check into the links between Crowley, Jack (Jet Propulsion Lab) Parsons and L. Ron (Show Me the Money) Hubbard.
See Strange Angel: The Otherworldly Life of Rocket Scientist John Whiteside Parsons and/or Sex and Rockets: The Occult World of Jack Parsons.


very strange indeed you can read the entire book here.full book

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posted on Jul, 24 2010 @ 11:57 AM
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coming here for thoughts and opinions is actually quite dumb you need to research the man yourself and read books and acquire your own opinions as ats is full of people who cant see crowley for what he really was...a prophet in wolves clothing!



posted on Jul, 24 2010 @ 12:03 PM
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He had nothing to do with Hitler at all, the very opposite in fact. Crowley had far more in common with the like of R A Wilson than a bunch of fascists. I n fact, there have been suggestions he worked for Churchill during WW2 and was instrumental in *planting dreams*, into Rudoplh Hess's sleep to encourage him to fly to Britain. The whole German connection stems from some throw away remark he made about. "Oh yes, i spied for the Germans and tried to get them to drop a bomb on my aunty's house in WW! cos i hated her"..



posted on Jul, 24 2010 @ 12:17 PM
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Originally posted by Diplomat
He lived from 1875-1947 and claimed to have met an angel. His drawing of the angel, named "Lam," has a striking resemblance of a Grey. Here is a link all about it...

www.boudillion.com...


OP, thanks for starting this thread. Crowley is often discussed by members in other forums.

The point you make is valid. There is a striking resemblance between greys and that Aleister Crawley drawing. But that is not all; there is a striking resemblance between greys and demons generally.

A long time ago I considered the notion that most aliens were manifestations of the same entities that occultists refer to as the inhabitants of the zone girdling the earth. Now I am fairly convinced.

However just as the greys are supposed to be deceitful, those entities that masquerade as ETs are just the same. The fun starts when you make them physically manifest through a psychic connection. It is no different from summoning an entity from the astral, using ritual.

UFOs and aliens have been around as long as demons and bogeymen. Unfortunately, this kind of talk is not acceptable to the Ufology community who only want to talk about the analysis of UFOs evidence (films and photos).

As for abduction, I will leave everyone to guess but some already know the answer.

You could spend a very long time reading esoteric topics(occult) in the hope of finding some reference to UFOS. You will draw a blank. There is simply no need for UFOs to ever be mentioned in occult litterature. It is already clear what they are. The entities have dropped the wings and horns. Now they wear sexy lycra and travel in crafts.

If you hunt UFOs with this mindset , you will get a lot of footage.


EDIT : The thread has been derailed. Everyone wants to talk about Crowley although it was a UFO/alien matter to star with >So I will also give my input:

Crowley was one of the few practicing magicians. He was not scared of dealing with the most heinous entities of the astral. He could summon and control some. Now, this is the only tool you need when you fight evil ; you need to face evil and win. Like they say, every cop is a criminal and every sinner a saint. To beat evil you need to know it. At present, unfortunately, evil has no adversaries.










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posted on Jul, 24 2010 @ 12:20 PM
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Originally posted by FireMoon
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He had nothing to do with Hitler at all, the very opposite in fact. Crowley had far more in common with the like of R A Wilson than a bunch of fascists. I n fact, there have been suggestions he worked for Churchill during WW2 and was instrumental in *planting dreams*, into Rudoplh Hess's sleep to encourage him to fly to Britain. The whole German connection stems from some throw away remark he made about. "Oh yes, i spied for the Germans and tried to get them to drop a bomb on my aunty's house in WW! cos i hated her"..


well i knew id be met with these same rebuttuls for not being able to find my source and provide more details, i just wish someone else had read whatever it was i had and could corroborate what i seen, oh well in anycase theres no way anyone can ever be sure what the case was with men of history since we all know history is written by the victors and is hardly ever a garuantee of accuracy,

regardless of all these opinions it seems clear enough to me that crowley was a man to support plunder over property and that never leads to peacefull prosperity, we must always remember not to support plunder,

am i wrong thinking he was a man of plunder?



posted on Jul, 24 2010 @ 12:34 PM
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crowley preached "love is the law" and "do what thou wilt" "love under wilt" basically saying the samething as the bible just in a way to reach all audiences see..what most people havent realised...

is that crowley,satanism,and christianity go hand in hand! each reaches audiences of different flavor preaching the samething...

satanic bible says if someone hits you hit them back or worse! the bible says treat people how you want to be treated so if someone hits you they want to be hit back...god sometimes avenges someone 7 fold satanism says its ok to hit harder then you were hit...satanism says try to get along with people try to be better then everyone else while everyone..

looks at u like ur a pos treat them like gold be the better person bible says love thy neighbor as thou loves thyself...

all in all love is the law through each one the bible,crowleys book of the law, and satanism which leans more toward loving onself which there is nothing wrong with self respect you cant truly love someone else until you love yourself...

NOW PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT (TO THOSE THAT HATE)

yes i did just connect satanism and christianity with crowley!

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posted on Jul, 24 2010 @ 12:44 PM
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Ah yes but I take the other line. The greys are spiritual entities as opposed to physical aliens. This is not so strange when you consider how little evidence of their physical existence exists.

In over fifty years of sightings what do we have by way of hard evidence???

I do want to believe in aliens from outerspace but honestly I am also completely scepticial of such claims.



posted on Jul, 24 2010 @ 12:57 PM
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Originally posted by metalholic
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NOW PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT (TO THOSE THAT HATE)


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relax, this is friendly debat here nothing more.

that said lets see some things first



heres crowley with lots of pyramids perhaps illuminati reference?


Crowley claimed to identify himself with the Great Beast 666 (from the Book of Revelation) and enjoyed the appellation of "wickedest man in the world."

skepdic.com...


now would a man who identifys himselfs with the beast 666 realy have any interest in promoting any kind of peace?



Crowley worshipped the demon god Pan, the god of sexuality and lust. His “Hymn to Pan” was read at his funeral: “I rave and I rape and I rip and I rend


www.zimbio.com...


he liked his own made tag line “I rave and I rape and I rip and I rend"

and i myself know two people personaly that have been raped in their life after seeing the trauma it has caused them for their entire life i know i could never EVER support rape, and crowley did, therefore i could never EVER support crowley, like i said he is a man of plunder not property.

so you say what you will about him, i say he was a bad man. if i raped you you'd think the same about me so dont be a hypocrite.

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posted on Jul, 24 2010 @ 01:05 PM
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Originally posted by pryingopen3rdeye

Originally posted by metalholic
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NOW PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT (TO THOSE THAT HATE)


[edit on 24-7-2010 by metalholic]


relax, this is friendly debat here nothing more.

that said lets see some things first



heres crowley with lots of pyramids perhaps illuminati reference?


Crowley claimed to identify himself with the Great Beast 666 (from the Book of Revelation) and enjoyed the appellation of "wickedest man in the world."

skepdic.com...


now would a man who identifys himselfs with the beast 666 realy have any interest in promoting any kind of peace?



Crowley worshipped the demon god Pan, the god of sexuality and lust. His “Hymn to Pan” was read at his funeral: “I rave and I rape and I rip and I rend


www.zimbio.com...


he liked his own made tag line “I rave and I rape and I rip and I rend"

and i myself know two people personaly that have been raped in their life after seeing the trauma it has caused them for their entire life i know i could never EVER support rape, and crowley did, therefore i could never
EVER support crowley, like i said he is a man of plunder not property.

so you say what you will about him, i say he was a bad man. if i raped you you'd think the same about me so dont be a hypocrite.


that means nothing people say sh*t all the time look at all the things celebrities say and other people that get any attention if we were judging people by what they say and takin them literal eminem should of been locked up a long time ago...its all for publicity...

everything crowley writes is not meant to take literal or is above most peoples heads...like in book of the law he warns u before u read it...this book takes some intelligence to understand! that right there says that all the people on here that go i cant understand it it was a bunch of goblly gook to me...didnt have the intelligence

but its funny how i understand it! its not that hard! honestly i dont think people on here read books besides me as far as the posters u run in to from time to time not sayin no one does but most dont how do i know...b/c they want everythign handed to them instead of reading books themselves...

and when u copy and post verses from txts they comeplain b/c they didnt wanna read through it...but yet want proof of soemthing...

and talk about hypocrites...we preach peace but we have nuclear bombs on stand by...we preach peace yet were at war with muslims b/c bush wanted to complete what daddy didnt!

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posted on Jul, 24 2010 @ 01:09 PM
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hypocrites is christians talking about any peoples that have ever sacrificed goats and what not to the gods or god is a stanist controled by the devil...yet when noah left the ark the first thing he did was sacrifice a baby goat a young dove and oxen and some other animals to god to make a covenant with him...book of jubilees!!!!

there's reasons them books were cast out of the bible...it shed to much light on the truth! if only christians knew the truth about who they worship...they will eventually b/c hes coming...and hes not who they think he is! crowley knew!



posted on Jul, 24 2010 @ 01:21 PM
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How and why did this thread start in 2006 and get one flag and be continued now and get on the main board??
Not griping, find the subject matter interesting-just the way it has come back is weird!

Thanks for the links too, I only know about Crowley through the illuminati and NWO docs.



posted on Jul, 24 2010 @ 01:33 PM
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Hmmmmm...
strangely enough insteadof finding true truthseekers in this forum i just see more and more brainwashed uninformed paranoid victims of the same propaganda they seem to fight against, labeling autamatically everything they dont understand as evil.

The more i get to know the sheeple the mor i'm convinced that the NWO and the depopulation is indeed a necessity.





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