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Message to the World regarding the Danish Cartoons

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posted on Feb, 5 2006 @ 06:53 PM
Message to the World regarding the Danish Cartoons

In the name of Allah, the All-Merciful, the Ever-Merciful. All praise be to Allah and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

This is my message to the Muslim Nation, the Muslim youth, the Western civilization, and the whole world. I present this message through to reach the Life-Makers youth and the youth of the forum. I ask them to deliver it exactly as I have said it to the Muslim Nation, the Muslim and Arab youth, the West through all their contacts there and surely to the whole world.

My first message is to the Muslim Nation and the Muslim youth:

[edit on 6-2-2006 by Thomas Crowne]

[edit on 6-2-2006 by Thomas Crowne]

posted on Feb, 5 2006 @ 06:56 PM
Welcome friend, I respect your deep devotion to prophet Muhammad, enjoy your stay here at the great ATS!

posted on Feb, 5 2006 @ 07:32 PM
You are too wordy. I hope I don't find that this is a cut and paste.

What I did catch is that you say we don't understand your deep devotion to your diety and your prophet. I don't know about that, but what I do understand is the double standard in regard to freedom of speech and the lack of respect your people have for others. My people as well as others have learned what it means to be under the subjugation and domination of the Muslims, and mnow, we see how provocative they get to cartoons. Destroying millions of dollars of property, injuring people, all because of cartoons. It has been brought to light that the inciteful cartoons were fabricated by Islamic provocateurs, in order to provoke such a response.
This is a conspiracy of global proportions, and you come here to tell us that we don't understand.

I, for one, understand all too well.

I am not like Spittin' Cobra, I am not blind. My respect is not cheap, and I do not call you, a stranger, a friend. Especially when I understand your religion, and know my personal choices.

I welcome you to the board, though, as I welcome all.

posted on Feb, 5 2006 @ 07:37 PM

Originally posted by Thomas Crowne

I am not like SpittinCobra, I am not blind. .

Look dude don't be disrespectful to me. I was being open and nice to welcome.

[edit on 5-2-2006 by SpittinCobra]

posted on Feb, 5 2006 @ 07:44 PM
Welcome to ATS, there is alot of strong minded people here, as you can allready see. I think you will fit right in and dont take anything that these people say personaly, i knopw i don't.

posted on Feb, 5 2006 @ 07:50 PM
No dis dude, I love ya!

Now, shushg; the Steelers are pushing the ball and I need another...water.

posted on Feb, 5 2006 @ 07:53 PM
Welcome to ATS Hana. I hope you enjoy being a member here.

posted on Feb, 5 2006 @ 07:53 PM
Good, I didn't want to have come shave your head.

posted on Feb, 5 2006 @ 07:56 PM
Interception, Seahawks touchdown.
I gotta go to Sportztawk.
You guys have a great time, conspiracies will have to wait.

posted on Feb, 5 2006 @ 07:57 PM
a few years back, a couple planes flew into two buildings in NY City....and killed lots of people. This they did in the name of allah. this isn't the first time that death and destruction has been done in the name of God by those of your faith. you do not find this offensive to your religion? where were the crowds in protest to these actions?

I am of a different religion as you. my religion dictates that you are very, very, careful what you do in the name of God, lest you offend HIM!!

do people who fly planes into buildings killing thousands respect me, and my belief that you just don't do such things in the name of God? I don't think so. Would they respect my belief that I dress as my God instructs me, and goes where he choses me to go, and does what he choses me to do.....even when what he desires me to do would be interferred with by a dress code dictated by other religions? again, I don't think so, since they didn't even respect the women in afghanistans need to bath before prayer, and therefore attempted to cut her off from her God! would "adapting" to your beliefs require me to ignore some of mine....I think in time it would!!!

[edit on 5-2-2006 by dawnstar]

posted on Feb, 5 2006 @ 08:05 PM
Islam is supposed to be a religion of love and peace and harmony and friendship and understanding and support and compassion and etc.

This whole situation is completely ridiculous.

posted on Feb, 5 2006 @ 08:16 PM
This is my message to the Islamic world...

Oh Muslim world hear this from your friends the West.

1. We respect and revere freedom to speak as we wish. We have fought for it, we have worked for it, we have died for it, and often that is why YOU are here, to gain from it.

2. Just because you shout and rage and kill and destroy does not make you any more right that us. If we were to bow to your fury then where does the line stop with Islam? Must we also bow to other religious rules, your rules, just becase we are afraid of your anger? Where is YOUR respect for the West?

3. This is our society, built by our hands, stained by our blood, based on our values and defended by our people. If you don't like the way the west lives, then go back to your failed societies and your corrupt regimes, keep your poison on YOUR side of the fence. Tidy up your own house before you dare to critisize ours.

4. The west grew through the medieval primative brutal version of religion about 500 years ago. Its about time Islam grew through its corrupt repressive regime as well.

5. Stop your coordinated, planned, and manupulated protests. They fool no one. We will not submit to fear and intimidation. Rage all you want, it only reinforces western stereotypes of Islam as abhorent, brutal and oppressive. It serves only to validate the cartoon of Mohammed in the eyes of westerners with the bomb on his head.

In conclusion, if you rise above your base instincts and treat others as equals instead of subservient and inferior to your religious beliefs, you will find in return an equal degree of respect from the west. However if you continue of this road of futile protests and ignorant abuse and threats, then you will generate a western backlash and further divide the world along religious lines.

Here in the west we are attuned to liberty and the threat of the tyranical, all your actions are doing is driving yourselves out of western mindset of "friendly equals" into that of "dangerous oppressors".

Change your actions if you wish to change your paths.


[edit on 5-2-2006 by Netchicken]

posted on Feb, 5 2006 @ 08:52 PM
Hello Hana and welcome to ATS.

Originally posted by Hana
However, the West should alter the freedom of speech so that it does not collide with the very important Islamic value of dignifying the Prophet (SAWS).

No, the West should not alter it's most basic freedoms to appease the religion of anyone. In the West, religion and law are separate things, meant to remain separate.

I clearly say to the West, you have a problem.

We do not have a problem, we just disagree.

Being a true believer is conditioned with loving Prophet Muhammad (SAWS) more than our own selves.

Many Christians feel this way about Jesus as well. They love him more than their parents, more than their children, more than their own lives, so perhaps we understand your devotion to your prophet better than you know.

I know that the West resists racism as they realize very well what it means. I also know that they stand up against any anti-Semitic assaults as they recognize the serious consequences of such acts. Yet, true contradiction lies in respecting Semitism and resisting racialism on the one hand, while humiliating the most valued figure for Muslims, the Prophet (SAWS), on the other.

"The West" did not make those cartoons. In fact, the vast majority of Westerners would never think of disrespecting you or the Jews or any race. But we stand up for the right of free speech, even when the 'speech' is something we hate to hear. Even when the 'speech' is disrespectful, we support it.

We are as consumed with and protective of our rights as perhaps you are of your religion. They are precious to us and many of us have died for them and would give our lives for them.

My message to the West then is that freedom of speech, which we indeed respect, honor, and actually need, should be modified so that it does not clash with the highly revered Muslim value of dignifying the Prophet (SAWS).

That's not going to happen.

The West respects monarchies, Semitism, all races, and different ethnicities, and its respect to the Prophet (SAWS) and to sacred Muslim values should be no less.

We respect Muslims too, but no amount of respect for anyone can tarnish our freedoms. Islam does not apply to all the people of the world and no one has the authority to tell the entire world how to behave.

We treat all religions the same. Islam is no more the subject of jokes, cartoons or other disrespectful expressions than any other.

I hope this helps you to understand how precious our rights are to us and that we are not willing to alter them. A cartoon is a picture on a piece of paper. It harmless.

posted on Feb, 5 2006 @ 10:21 PM
I have a problem with this make it sound as though "the West" has no concept of devotion to a god or goddess or whatever else there is to worship. I am Christian, and believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God. I would die for him. I put him above everything else, including family, friends, even my doggie. How is this different than your devotion to the Prophet Mohammed?

However, one thing I take pride in is my ability to keep calm, even when my religion is offended. Jesus taught love for one another. You say Mohammed taught the same thing (if I read this wrong, I apologize). There are some very offensive movies, cartoons, jokes, books, and I'm sure there is a statue or two that Christians would find offensive. But, Christians do not burn down the embassies of other countries, or raid news offices of European papers. We do not run around preaching and screaming that all the world needs to follow Christian teachings (a small number might, but they stand out more than most Christians.) We peacefully protest, or in my case, just blow it off and not let it get to me.

So, please do not write a post which states that Westerners do not understand your deep devotion to Mohammed and Allah. I am just as, if not more, devoted to my Lord Jesus Christ.

posted on Feb, 5 2006 @ 10:21 PM
The speach condensed to its core statements.

the West should alter the freedom of speech

freedom of speech, should be modified

freedom of speech should be adapted to Muslim values.

demanding international law that protects the dignity of this Prophet.

Amr Khaled

The free world already gave its answer.

Request Denied

And yes, the speach is a cut and paste.

posted on Feb, 5 2006 @ 10:22 PM
Hey Hana, thanks for the laugh I needed it.
Ok you say that the West should conform to your views, not going to happen. Why don't you conform to our views? No, why not. Our conforms we can make jokes about anyone we please. Thats the problem with todays society, everybody wants to hate one another, and when someone makes a joke they get offeneded. You don't see Christians burning down embassys when they did jokes about Chirst in movies. You don't see Jews burning down buildings because they did jokes about God. You don't see Muslims burning down building because they did jokes about Allah. What makes your religion so special that we must not make jokes about your Prophet, he is not God, he is just a Prophet. A man. Just a man. So if you don't like the views of the West get the fck out and go back to wherever you came from because frankly we don't like it anymore. So yeah I hope you kick the bucket in the name of Allah, God, Jesus, Buddah, Shiva, Lucifer, etc.
Because the world would be a better place without your views. It was fine until you showed up.

1: an authoritative person who divines the future [syn: oracle, seer, vaticinator]
2: someone who speaks by divine inspiration; someone who is an interpreter of the will of God

posted on Feb, 5 2006 @ 10:45 PM

Originally posted by SpittinCobra
Good, I didn't want to have come shave your head.

I hate to derail this topic, but I really don't think my whining will do that.

I'm here to tell ya, Cobra, that this is a pain, having a shaved head. Too much like work. Also, they don't make a tube of chap stick big enough for the razor burn!

Hey, guys, I kinda feel like this was a drive-by posting.
For some reason I don't expect Hana to be back around, unless she wants to see if this place is fertile ground for propaganda. I think it is, so I hope to see her back. Who knows? Maybe she can convert us. Or, at least have us pay jisya!

posted on Feb, 5 2006 @ 10:56 PM
I just had to say this and was trying to find the proper thread for it.
Hope this is the right one.
Everybody is taking this really seriously.. and I mean here on ATS..

Everyone's got flags of denmark on their avaatars and/or signatures, some in affirmation, and some in protest..

Haven't there been any jokes on other religions and their prophets published before?

posted on Feb, 5 2006 @ 11:03 PM
Sure, of course. It is just that the other religions can take a little ribbing, and aren't so shakey in their own ways.

It isn't their fault, they are the newcomers on the block and are still a bit juvenile.

posted on Feb, 5 2006 @ 11:04 PM
Sounds like the followers of the "Religion of Peace" are asking us to give up our rights or give up our heads. False Dilemma, request dennied. I'll keep both, better luck next time!

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