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China's military Strength?

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posted on Jul, 6 2006 @ 06:38 AM
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Originally posted by 2smart2curious

Originally posted by American Mad Man
All you need to ask is:

"Where would an American-chinese war take place."

There is only one answere - CHINA. They can't get to the ME, much less the US. In a war, it would go something like this (assuming non nuclear, because that's the only chance China has)...

1) war is declared
2) US achieves air superiority
3) Every strategic site in China is destroyed
4) secondary targets are struck

Then, the US has a choice to make.

A) Invade
B) ask China to surrender for their own good
C) punish China from the air/sea for an indefinite period of time untill they sue for peace


well i would like to point out that US INVADED iraq,n they arent exactly winning are they?
their major allies britain infact are in a much better position despite the fact that they have lesser forces n military might.
remember david n goliath ,well rite now its like david vs goliath with donald ducks brain(read dubya).
wot is the use of alll the force projection n other crap if instead of pointing the gun right u point it in the left direction.
the american intelligence agencies considered the 'best' in the world showed how good they were when they predicted the presence of "WMDS"
the iraq invasion is like a perpetual thorn in americas foot, which they cant remove,its minute but constantly hurts them, then would the china invasion be like???




um we did win
we basicly own the country hehe but there are insurgents which are a pain in the arse besides no army can win a war against religious suicidal nuts




posted on Jul, 6 2006 @ 07:13 AM
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Originally posted by Echtelion

Originally posted by Bozorgh
If your intersted in Chinese war exsercise or their military parades than check out these videos.

www.youtube.com... 52%200army%20navy%20air%20force

www.youtube.com... 252%200army%20navy%20air%20force

www.youtube.com... my%20navy%20air%20force


Quite impressive indeed. Reminds me of the Red Army at the height of the Cold War, but somewhat bigger. WW3 is gonna HURT, that,s for sure!



lol how is that impressive??
do they even have any carriers how are they suppose to project that crap here lol



posted on Jul, 6 2006 @ 07:47 AM
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They're not gonna go attack the US.

That "crap" looks to be capable of preventing any US invasion into China's coastal waters.



posted on Jul, 6 2006 @ 09:44 PM
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Originally posted by sin0coz90tan45
They're not gonna go attack the US.

That "crap" looks to be capable of preventing any US invasion into China's coastal waters.


thats what YOU think



posted on Jul, 7 2006 @ 04:42 AM
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Originally posted by dabomb

Originally posted by sin0coz90tan45
They're not gonna go attack the US.

That "crap" looks to be capable of preventing any US invasion into China's coastal waters.


thats what YOU think


China would only attack US bases, there is no way any country can come over to the US and attack us here. Not because we are so powerful and invincible, but because they have a lot of water to cross. We would know they were coming probably before they even loaded their boats. There are defenses on each border. It just wouldn't be possible to do. Not in this day in age.



posted on Jul, 7 2006 @ 08:14 AM
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Originally posted by dabomb

Originally posted by Echtelion

Originally posted by Bozorgh
If your intersted in Chinese war exsercise or their military parades than check out these videos.

www.youtube.com... 52%200army%20navy%20air%20force

www.youtube.com... 252%200army%20navy%20air%20force

www.youtube.com... my%20navy%20air%20force


Quite impressive indeed. Reminds me of the Red Army at the height of the Cold War, but somewhat bigger. WW3 is gonna HURT, that,s for sure!



lol how is that impressive??
do they even have any carriers how are they suppose to project that crap here lol


So why isnt it impressive?
The US hasnt really proven its power lately



posted on Jul, 7 2006 @ 08:34 AM
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BTW why were you living in China before?



posted on Jul, 7 2006 @ 06:39 PM
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Originally posted by sin0coz90tan45
So why isnt it impressive?
The US hasnt really proven its power lately


They havent, so taking control of 2 countries(with coalition help) in under 2 weeks in 2003 isnt showing power. If this were a conventional war it have been over before the current situation. Not proven its power?



posted on Jul, 7 2006 @ 09:23 PM
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Originally posted by sin0coz90tan45
BTW why were you living in China before?




becuase my dad dragged me here



edit:good thing iam going back to hawaii august 1st


[edit on 7-7-2006 by dabomb]



posted on Jul, 7 2006 @ 10:34 PM
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Originally posted by ludaChris

Originally posted by sin0coz90tan45
So why isnt it impressive?
The US hasnt really proven its power lately


They havent, so taking control of 2 countries(with coalition help) in under 2 weeks in 2003 isnt showing power. If this were a conventional war it have been over before the current situation. Not proven its power?


Iraq isnt exactly a powerful country.



posted on Jul, 8 2006 @ 02:30 AM
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Originally posted by dabomb

Originally posted by sin0coz90tan45
BTW why were you living in China before?




becuase my dad dragged me here



edit:good thing iam going back to hawaii august 1st


[edit on 7-7-2006 by dabomb]


Is China really that much different from the USA?



posted on Jul, 8 2006 @ 07:50 AM
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Originally posted by Toadmund
ludaChris said:


What I meant was for their military, to be able to produce the same quality stuff the US has for its military in the same quantity.

I was thinking along the line of electronics for weaponry, if they gots the electronics down, I'm sure they've got the other quality down pat as well.

What is that song in the first video, that has got to be the spookiest song ever made, it's Russian is it not?
I'd like to DL it.


Another Chinese ripoff, it sounds like Flight of the Valkaryies.

The Chinese are spending billions not millions on their defense budget.

A lot of their weapons are purchased or copied technology.



posted on Jul, 10 2006 @ 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by sin0coz90tan45
Iraq isnt exactly a powerful country.


Does that matter? I mean really, when you roll into a country and have complete control in 2 weeks? Given that control has deteriorated but no official army in the world is truly prepared to fight a guerilla war, be it China, the US, Russia or anyone. Professional armies are meant to go against one another. If you think the US showed us all something with "shock and awe", then you are very naive. The US military can unleash so much more and

The US has the ability to control the tempo of a conventional war with any country in the world at the moment. I'm not going off topic, my point is coming so bear with me. This is the kind of power China is gearing up for. They want a conventional army at least on par with the US in terms of technology and power projection. This is one area that no other country in the world comes close to matching the US in, power projection.(note: every country on earth combined is still shy of matching the US in this area, correct me if I'm wrong please) But China is gearing up very quickly, and I cant say I blame them. No one wants to be left behind, especially when they have the means to catch up. Its only a matter of time before the US and China square off, it wont be a cold war, it will be the hottest war the world has ever seen. Its all about balance of power, and we will see this unfold in its entirety in the next 20-30 years.



posted on Jul, 11 2006 @ 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by ludaChris

Originally posted by sin0coz90tan45
Iraq isnt exactly a powerful country.


Its only a matter of time before the US and China square off, it wont be a cold war, it will be the hottest war the world has ever seen. Its all about balance of power, and we will see this unfold in its entirety in the next 20-30 years.



I don't know about anyone else but if/when the above scenario occurs I'm putting my money on China.

Too many of our youth have the "I'll go to Canada before I join the military" attitude. I only ask of these losers "Why don't you just leave now?"

If/when the big one against China happens we will have our asses handed to us because there will be nobody to defend. And the Democrats will welcome the Chinese with open arms.



posted on Jul, 11 2006 @ 04:15 PM
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I know its been stated before, but China cannot invade the US without a major revamping of their navy. They need not just more ships but ships capable of crossing oceans. The Chinese currently have no blue water navy, their military power is entirely landlocked.
But maybe they'll intervene in the current North Korean "crisis", crisis my backside, taepodud more like it.
BTW LudaChris, is your signature an actual quote? I'd like to know where you got it from.



posted on Jul, 11 2006 @ 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by SpecAgentDW
BTW LudaChris, is your signature an actual quote? I'd like to know where you got it from.


It is from a film called Buffalo Soldiers, I couldnt remember the Character in the movies name so I just credited the movie. Jaquin Pheonix played the character. Check it out, its a great film.

Buffalo Soldiers



posted on Jul, 12 2006 @ 03:53 PM
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Please.

America could of conquered the entire world if it wanted to...its has had that ability for awhile. The fact that we have the largest and most impressive military of all time and dont go attacking every country we dont like, shows great strength/restraint.


LMAO this is probably the single dumbest quote I've ever seen on ATS. This guy obviously thinks America is center of the Universive, and that no other countries exists. Yes, America is definitely the most powerful country in the world, but they are by no means invincible. YES, I am American! And it's dumbasses like you that give this country a bad reputation. I suggest that all readers of this board please ignore all future post from this demented clown. I've seen nothing but made up facts posted by this.........it.


Please crawl back to the trailer trash you came from.ititit

[edit on 12-7-2006 by NegativeBeef]



posted on Jul, 14 2006 @ 08:58 PM
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My point is that the US simply cannot invade China and take over.



posted on Jul, 14 2006 @ 09:05 PM
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NWO includes China, Britain, Russia, the USA and India. Meaning China may never become a threat to the Western Hemisphere. The latest speculation being absolute deployment and ignition control of Nuclear and Neutron devices by a main world body.

Dallas



posted on Jul, 15 2006 @ 05:33 PM
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When it comes to qaulity and qaunity...
Definetly would have to go with the u.s...
but does the chinese army have a tough enough air force,
for the u.s







 
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