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100's of Muslims protest Muhammad cartoons in London…But how many protest terror?


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reply posted on 3-2-2006 @ 04:24 PM by AceOfBase



Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
This is so funny it's not even funny!



"Freedom of Expression, Go to Hell"? Am I the only one seeing the irony here?



Seriously.
If it wasn't for free speech they wouldn't be able to have these protests in London and other parts of Europe calling for the extermination of those who offend Islam.





EDIT: More photos of the protests here:
yahoo

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reply posted on 3-2-2006 @ 04:32 PM by duncanidaho


Friday, it looks like you practice a religion.

If it was not religion it would be race, booty, or something else.

The only lasting peace will be found in the hereafter. I think most of us will agree to that. Until then, we are tasked with keeping the peace the best way we can. Keep evil at bay by shinning the light on it whenever you can.

Islamofacisim is evil! Islam needs to shine the light this evil or dark it will become.



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reply posted on 3-2-2006 @ 04:33 PM by Kacen


Islam is a relativly young religion, it hasn't matured past the "Kill the infidel" part yet.

I can't believe there getting this upset over CARTOONS!Wtf! This is ridiculous!

This is Islam's shining moment of idiocy, using Freedom of Expression to protest...Freedom of Expression. -_-;

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reply posted on 3-2-2006 @ 04:34 PM by blobby


hmm those signs saying Europe your 9/11 is on its way..........


well if it is be sure we will retaliate in FORCE and wipe the floor with you all as we are more technological advanced in weapons bring it on.........

shesh see how silly that looks saying that, sad if they don't see it as being a WESTERN country that has NON ISLAMIC LAWS and is not an ISLAMIC nation i say GO back to your own country's in middle east TBH if you ain't happy living in a free country thats non Islamic why did they come here from their loverly Islamic nation thats SO nice an holy hmmmm i wonder why maybe cause there was no freedom like we have here there????

i say deport all trouble makers ( not happy in west go back to mid east then no thought so...) and make these Islamic riots or whatever they are illegal.

i think alot of people are getting fed up with all the Muslims and their ways in OUR western country's i mean come on they come here to a non Islamic country to live their lives in peace and they do these things at the drop of a hat it ridiculous, and i think the west will only take so much more before its sorted out properly in laws or deportations.

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reply posted on 3-2-2006 @ 04:38 PM by Luxifero




There are idiots in most religions, giving them a bad name. Unfortunatly theres quite a large amount of them in the Islamic population. It never means the entire religion is bad at all.



You sway generalizations with a heavy handed one yourself. Exactly how do you justify the veracity of your claim that a majority of Islamic members are 'idiots'? If anything, you sound like a bigot positing baseless claims as postulate, as if some sort of intense sociological discourse was carried out to bring you to your axiom.




Islam is a relativly young religion, it hasn't matured past the "Kill the infidel" part yet.



How young is young? Exactly how do come to the conclusion that Islam was founded on "kill the infidel" principle when historicaly we are touted otherwise? Exactly how do you posit that religions mature beyong this stage, and exactly how do they mature? Is there forumulae?

Luxifero



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reply posted on 3-2-2006 @ 04:43 PM by Kacen



Originally posted by Luxifero


There are idiots in most religions, giving them a bad name. Unfortunatly theres quite a large amount of them in the Islamic population. It never means the entire religion is bad at all.



You sway generalizations with a heavy handed one yourself. Exactly how do you justify the veracity of your claim that a majority of Islamic members are 'idiots'? If anything, you sound like a bigot positing baseless claims as postulate, as if some sort of intense sociological discourse was carried out to bring you to your axiom.




Islam is a relativly young religion, it hasn't matured past the "Kill the infidel" part yet.



How young is young? Exactly how do come to the conclusion that Islam was founded on "kill the infidel" principle when historicaly we are touted otherwise? Exactly how do you posit that religions mature beyong this stage, and exactly how do they mature? Is there forumulae?

Luxifero


Okay, you misunderstand. And I actually edited that post before I noticed your reply.(I edited it for grammar reasons)

Most religions have a "kill the infidel" part. I didn't effing say it was taught, but it happens. Islam is a very peaceful religion, but people misinterpret it and do violent things.

When I said theres quite a large amount of idiot muslims, I didnt say that they were the majority. Theres a big difference. Its relative.



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reply posted on 3-2-2006 @ 04:43 PM by Wask


Its to bad something like this has to happen in a country full of cowards like England. There should be twice as many English people there to send all those #s back to whatever 3rd world #hole they came from.

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reply posted on 3-2-2006 @ 04:46 PM by Luxifero


Kacen,

You stated such and such in your initial post before it's edit. I'm not sure how it was relative, however.

Luxifero



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reply posted on 3-2-2006 @ 04:46 PM by CogitoErgoSum1




Originally posted by negativenihil
Let's say tomorrow, in a French news paper, a cartoon depicting Jesus as an abortion clinic bomber is printed.

How do you expect the christian majority in America to react?

Bill O'Reilly will re-energise his ban on anything French, and you know Pat Robertson would be issusing a fatwa or two. The christian extremists would be up in arms.

Let's face facts here people. When you mock someone else's religious figure, you should expect some sort of backlash.

You'd have to be ignorant or naive to expect otherwise.

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Funny you should say such things.




So here we have Osama Bin Laden depicted as Christ. Lets see if there are any riots in NY or Christians calling for the destruction/extermination of those who slander.





While some at the show did recognize the Bin Laden face on the Christ body, we found none who were offended. Instead most defended "Tafa" the artist's right to speak his mind. The painting is bordered with hand lettered expressions and names including "mujahadin," "McCarthyism," and "Amadou Diallo," a man killed by New York City police in 1999.

LINKAGE








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reply posted on 3-2-2006 @ 04:50 PM by sacrifice



Originally posted by Kacen

Most religions have a "kill the infidel" part. I didn't effing say it was taught, but it happens. Islam is a very peaceful religion, but people misinterpret it and do violent things.



Just curious - can you point to the "kill the infidel" part somewhere in the New Testament? Or how about in any other religion. It has been documented many times on this forum that it is in the koran, so I will not request (or respond to requests that I re-show this - use the search feature) that you show me where it is in the koran.



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reply posted on 3-2-2006 @ 04:54 PM by ludaChris



Originally posted by AceOfBase
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If I saw a guy with this sign on my street, he wouldnt be breathing anymore. Those who dont respect life dont deserve to live, just my take on the subject. I mean I seriously would do some time in prison to get a shot at that guy. Crap like this pisses me off, these folks with these signs are askin to get deported anyhow.

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reply posted on 3-2-2006 @ 05:01 PM by Kacen



Originally posted by sacrifice

Originally posted by Kacen

Most religions have a "kill the infidel" part. I didn't effing say it was taught, but it happens. Islam is a very peaceful religion, but people misinterpret it and do violent things.



Just curious - can you point to the "kill the infidel" part somewhere in the New Testament? Or how about in any other religion. It has been documented many times on this forum that it is in the koran, so I will not request (or respond to requests that I re-show this - use the search feature) that you show me where it is in the koran.


What I'm saying is most religions had a period where they killed for there beliefs, despite the fact that the religion didn't teach it. Christians a long time ago did it(crusades?).

Thats all I'm saying. -_-;



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reply posted on 3-2-2006 @ 05:01 PM by deltaboy


Muslims have the right to be angry, but to start threatening people who refuse to back off the picture is a little overboard. Signs saying cut your head off or threatening to commit acts of terrorism. Thats way out of line. Not to mention attacking the offices of the EU in Gaza, or looking for European tourists or officials to kidnap to force European media to pull back the pics is also out of line.



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reply posted on 3-2-2006 @ 05:08 PM by Agit8dChop


I think it shows the lengths the muslims will go to, when they feel there religion is scarred.

I mean, a cartoon in a news paper?.... why come out, on public media with a sign saying
Europe, your 911 is on its way.

Are you really looking for events to justify the murder of innocents?

Justice, atleast in your ' fanatical ways' , should be more so CARTOONISTS, your 911 is on its way.

Why tell europe to prepare for the murder of THOUSNADS, over a F'n cartoon?
....

But, i think this is an excellent opportunity for governments, world wide to find out whom among there socities hold enough PASSION to publically display there hatred towards a western world, especially if its as minimal as a cartoon.

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reply posted on 3-2-2006 @ 05:13 PM by sacrifice



Originally posted by deltaboy
Muslims have the right to be angry,


Really - Angry because of what? Some made-up wrong that every culture has experienced at one time? OK, I hate Russians, Germans, Muslims, Italians, and the Japanese and the Chinese, because at one time they wronged my religion or my ancestors. My wife must hate the Japanese and Chinese because they invaded and destroyed her homeland. So, my wife and I have the right to be angry and kill all of the above mentioned parties, according to your logic. Get real. The murders of islam are using many made-up excuses and forgetting their past.

Happy Easter!

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reply posted on 3-2-2006 @ 05:19 PM by Luxifero


sacrifice,

I'm not understanding your tangent here. You've obviously failed to come to the conclusion that under any situation, any religious zeal would have reacted in the same sense and this is dictated the world over in perpetuity. We are only to look at the Hindu extremists that ravaged movie theaters whence a film protraying homosexuality was shown in India.

In the end it boils down to human nature and our emotive response to things which we abhor.

Luxifero



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reply posted on 3-2-2006 @ 05:20 PM by Benevolent Heretic



Originally posted by sacrifice
So, my wife and I have the right to be angry and kill all of the above mentioned parties, according to your logic. Get real. The murders of islam are using many made-up excuses and forgetting their past.



They have a right to be angry whether you agree with their reasoning or not. Are you trying to dictate how people should feel now?

No one said they had a right to kill.

There's a world of difference between being angry and putting it into ACTION by killing people. Get real.



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reply posted on 3-2-2006 @ 05:31 PM by sacrifice


Luxifero - the people that destroyed the theatre were "Hindu extremists". The muslims that are commiting todays violence are islamic fundamentalists. That is a difference as the extremists do not represent the core beliefs of the Hindu faith. Note the word "extremist". Fundamentalists represent the religion of islam as written. (see previous posts)

Heretic - All people have the right to be angry - What they do not have the right to do is kill others or try to destroy their property. Do I have the right to kill all those who make me angry, like when members of this forum post anti Christian/Catholic opinions? That was the point of my post. Is that real enough?

Edited to add smiley: - not really, I just cannot spell at times.

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reply posted on 3-2-2006 @ 05:41 PM by Nygdan




So, they're going to kill 3,000 europeans, and then europe will occupy the other half of the islamic world?

Dolts.

When signs like that appear in a crowd its 'fire into the crowd' time. :@@;



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reply posted on 3-2-2006 @ 05:53 PM by DARKJEDIG


i can't believe that the english people on here are not going absolutely nuts at this....Seriously I am disgusted that these people are allowed to hold signs like "europe your 9/11 is on its way" and get away with it...How about we smarten up and arrest these idiots now, or deport them back to the hellhole they came from? Are we that stupid? Or does it take a terrorist attack or several attacks to get rid of these extremists....

I am so infuriated that the police just escort these guys as they spit out these placards calling for their own deaths! If i was in London, i'd have made my own placard saying
"death to islam, death to the middle east" and I bet you the police would stop me from doing it, and I bet I would get more condemnation than these extremists who everyone seems to be used to their radical views. Ridiculous. I'll tell you something, if they did it in my neck of the woods, they would all end up "missing"



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