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100's of Muslims protest Muhammad cartoons in London…But how many protest terror?

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posted on Feb, 6 2006 @ 11:38 AM
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I saw that pic yesterday. It was pretty sad to see.
One of the first books I can remember reading was the Dairy of Anne Frank. Her plight was so sad, terribly heartbreaking, what that child and her family went through.
The thought that one would have such amind to draw that cartoon, for whatever reason, is disturbing. Regardless, it speaks volumes in regard to the difference in beliefs. No building was burned and no body was threatened because of this cartoon.

The excuse that they were testing the waters of free speech is fairly lame as the anti-Semitic cartoons I have seen tested free speech a long time ago.




posted on Feb, 6 2006 @ 11:40 AM
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Originally posted by marg6043
So now they are testing their Freedom of speech


Yep. Rather childish. But like I said ... they threw mud at
the Jews and not at the Danes where it all started.


Actually THIS kind of thing is what they should have done
if they were upset .. not having millions of idiots riot in the
streets threatening to wipe out an entire country in the
West because they didn't follow Muslim religious laws.



posted on Feb, 6 2006 @ 11:42 AM
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Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
I saw that pic yesterday. It was pretty sad to see.
One of the first books I can remember reading was the Dairy of Anne Frank. Her plight was so sad, terribly heartbreaking, what that child and her family went through.
The thought that one would have such amind to draw that cartoon, for whatever reason, is disturbing. Regardless, it speaks volumes in regard to the difference in beliefs. No building was burned and no body was threatened because of this cartoon.

The excuse that they were testing the waters of free speech is fairly lame as the anti-Semitic cartoons I have seen tested free speech a long time ago.



But Thomas, when are you planning to riot? You are arent you? That cartoon offends you, so you are planning on rioting right? Maybe killing a few people or burning some embasies? After all, if we follow the preceeding examples thats what we are supposed to do, right?

And as FredT stated: It is offensive, but beyond that I could care less. You know what I will do as a retaliation to that cartoon? I wont look at it. Done, move along.

But no, lets threaten the world and burn things....



posted on Feb, 6 2006 @ 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
The thought that one would have such amind to draw that cartoon, for whatever reason, is disturbing.


THAT is what we are dealing with here TC ... disturbed minds.

The political cartoon of Muhammad with a bomb made a statement.
The counter anti-jewish cartoon makes no political statement.
The only thing it says is that the people who made the cartoon
haven't got a clue as to what political cartoons are for and they
have no regard for the TRUTH of what happened to the Jews in
the holocaust.

Their disturbed minds will fail to see that the nation of Israel
isn't up in riotous arms threatening to wipe out all of Islam
over a freak'n stupid cartoon.

Those people are worse than two year olds having a temper
tantrum melt down because they can't have a lolly pop.



posted on Feb, 6 2006 @ 11:47 AM
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Islam is reacting and doing exactly what it was designed to do from its origin. End the world.



posted on Feb, 6 2006 @ 11:47 AM
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You have voted skippytjc for the Way Above Top Secret award.
You have used all of your votes for this month.

- Just 'cuz I like the way you think and write.
Good work in this thread (and most others I see
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posted on Feb, 6 2006 @ 11:48 AM
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You're going to love this:

The US responds to the Muslim Outrage... It ain't pretty. Seems free speech will be taking a back seat to radical Muslim behavior...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Can't we all just be friends and give in to them?



posted on Feb, 6 2006 @ 11:48 AM
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Well, it was as Childish and Immature as the Danish Cartoon - IMHO none of them are really Expressing the Freedom of Speech, they are just walking the Thin Line between that Granted freedom and Ignorance.

The Results are in front of you...



posted on Feb, 6 2006 @ 11:48 AM
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hmmmm...comparing a cartoon of mohammad with a bomb for a turban is the same as Hitler raping a young Jewish girl.......

Just how is the german cartoon revalant to todays happenings?

Someone please explain, thanks!



posted on Feb, 6 2006 @ 11:50 AM
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You know TC is sad yes but we have to see what all these expressions has to do with the problems arising with this people.

While I don't really care about cartoonist, I don't even read the carton section in the news paper.

I feel that is things that are in good taste and bad taste, and we most ask ourselves how we feel about certain things and also how others may feel about it too.

While picturing Mohamed with a bomb in his turban I find it in bad taste I think is funny taking in consideration the events in the world right now and in the middle east.

But then again I am no muslin and I don't feel what a muslin feels about their believes.

So should they respect others people views?

Well the radical muslin are violent and disregard life so what should I care about a cartoon right?

Now when it hits us closely and we see Jesus been targeted then the views change also.

As with the picture or the lady and Hitler is tasteless and a mockery.

But is all about opinions.

I am glad that the cartoon was in another country and not in the US.



posted on Feb, 6 2006 @ 11:57 AM
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Originally posted by Souljah
Well, it was as Childish and Immature as the Danish Cartoon -


Like I said ... I didn't like the Danish Cartoon ... but it was a political
cartoon expressing what the artist thought. He equates Islam with
terrorism (gee ... wonder why??). These types of political cartoons
are all over the place .. some against the Pope, some against Christ,
some against Mary (Jesus' mom), some against the politics of the
Jewish faith, and some against the politics of Islam.

The response was childish. I'm talking about the RIOT response.
The calls to wipe out the Danes ... that's pathetic and only goes
to reinforce what the author of the comic was saying. It gives
the comic more validity.

The response with the Hitler cartoon was more in the right
direction. The cartoon itself was stupid. The idiots who made it
threw mud at the Jews and at a poor girl who was brutally murdered
by the Nazis. It has absolutely no political statement and no hint
of truth or thought that can be found in it.

However, if the Muslims are upset with the cartoon of Muhammed,
then creating a counter political cartoon is the right way to go.
Their choice of subject for their counter cartoon was ignorant and
had no merit ... except to further back up the original anti-Muhammed
cartoon once again.



posted on Feb, 6 2006 @ 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan
Like I said ... I didn't like the Danish Cartoon ... but it was a political
cartoon expressing what the artist thought. He equates Islam with
terrorism (gee ... wonder why??).

Excuse me, but you can not EQUAL Islam with Terrorism. Islam is a Religion - not a Religion of Extremists, but a Religion of People. What would happen if the entire World would Judge the American People and CHRISTIANITY upon words of mister Pat Robertson?

Terrorism EQUALS EXTREMISM - not Religious Belifs. There are Extremists of ALL Religions, not just Islamic; but the problem is, that most of the time Muslis will be proclaimed terrorists, and Jews for example will not, even if they both kill 50 people in one week.



The response with the Hitler cartoon was more in the right
direction. The cartoon itself was stupid. The idiots who made it
threw mud at the Jews and at a poor girl who was brutally murdered
by the Nazis. It has absolutely no political statement and no hint
of truth or thought that can be found in it.

Why is the Danish Cartoon "OKEY" - and this one NOT?

They are based upon the Same Ignorance towards another Religion and they are both based on exploiting the Freedom of Speech. Then BOTH are Idiots and Both are to be held responsible for the Re-Actions that they cause among the Public. If now Jewish EXTREMISTS (and there are alot of them in Isreal) will go and Burn down a Mosque - these Cartoonists are to blame, right?



posted on Feb, 6 2006 @ 12:05 PM
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Originally posted by Souljah
Well, it was as Childish and Immature as the Danish Cartoon - IMHO none of them are really Expressing the Freedom of Speech, they are just walking the Thin Line between that Granted freedom and Ignorance.

The Results are in front of you...


Yes, both was stupid, I think. Excpet for a couple things. There is very good reason to imagine an Arab with a bomb in his headdress, as anyone who has been on this planet the last few years can understand. there is no reason at all to create such a disgusting cartoon as the one with Hitler in bed with anne Frank. It adds nothing, and illustrates nothing.

here, here is an example of a lovely cartoon, which is older than the one that incited the unstable people to violence this week. This one is against theJews, and is in a way that is topical to how they see things, yet it is offensive, never the less:




posted on Feb, 6 2006 @ 12:11 PM
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IMHO these riots represent Iran flexing their influence & power, in an attempt to intimidate/influence Europe, about the upcoming U.N. Security Council vote about the Iranian nuclear development program.

For example; the Iranian President traveled to Syria a couple weeks ago to meet with the leaders from Syrian, Palestinian and Lebanese "groups" to form a "front to oppose world arrogance and domination''.

As soon as it became clear Iran would be refered to the U.N. Security Council, these cartoon riots broke out. The protests were the most virulent where?..... Syria, Palestine, and Lebanon of course.

The other locations that protest were held are mini projections of this power. An attempt to tell certain European leaders that a U.N. vote for sanctions, or military action against Iran will bring the war to your front door.
In short, a threat via proxy.

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posted on Feb, 6 2006 @ 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by Souljah
If now Jewish EXTREMISTS (and there are alot of them in Isreal) will go and Burn down a Mosque - these Cartoonists are to blame, right?



Ummmmmmm.........

No. The stupid extremeists that burned down the mosque would be to blame.....wouldnt they? After all THEY burned it down didnt they?

Or does words and pictures on a paper take control of your mind and body and force you to do things you would not ever think of doing?



posted on Feb, 6 2006 @ 12:14 PM
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Oh, my I hope I am not offending anybody with my avatar, taking in consideration how touchy the world is becoming about freedom of expression lately.



posted on Feb, 6 2006 @ 12:16 PM
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Nobody has anything to say about my last post?



posted on Feb, 6 2006 @ 12:17 PM
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Marg, you know that you have NEVER offended me with your avatars.
Especially when I saw a picture of you and saw that the avatars closely resemble you!



posted on Feb, 6 2006 @ 12:21 PM
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The secretary general of the Muslim council of Britain, Sir Iqbal Sacranie (Sir?) was on TV yesterday afternoon.

When asked 5 times on each occasion he never answered the following questions:

1:

Should those muslims protesting with signs that say "your 9/11 is coming", "behead all who insult islam" etc etc... be sent to jail?

One dodged.

And Number 2:

Do British papers have the right to publish the cartoons?

Dodged again.

I'm sorry, but this is clearly double standards. Before these questions were asked he was questioned on free speech and gave all the usual political bs about 'equality' and 'fairness'.

Absolute hypocracy.

If people want to argue that it is a minority that hold these views, then i suggest they look to remove the MCB's secretary general. His avoidance of answering those questions only means one thing...

His answer was no to both.

How would he feel if some one walked the streets with a sign saying "Death to Islam"?... EXACTLY.

It's all take take take.

On another note, no-one holding those signs were arrested during the protests. However 2 men handing out leaflets with the cartoons on WERE!

I'm ashamed of the British Police, totally unbelievable.



[edit on 6-2-2006 by Snoopdopey]

[edit on 6-2-2006 by Snoopdopey]



posted on Feb, 6 2006 @ 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by Souljah
you can not EQUAL Islam with Terrorism.

The AUTHOR of the political cartoon does equate islam and terrorism.
That was the message of his cartoon. Political cartoons express the
view of the author. It is HIS view that Islam DOES equate with
terrorism. The newspaper editors apparently agreed with him.


Islam is a Religion - not a Religion of Extremists,
but a Religion of People.

That's what extremists are .. people.
I don't follow you ...


What would happen if the entire World would Judge
the American People and CHRISTIANITY upon words of mister
Pat Robertson?


1 - Pat Robertson, as crazy as he is, doens't go around demanding
that his followers commit genocide against nations of nonbelievers.
(at least not yet) So if people around the world judged Christianity
based on Pat Robertson, they wouldn't be afraid of him ..
they'd just laugh at him.

2 - He hasn't go enough numbers of followers to make himself
relevant to anything (thankfully).



Why is the Danish Cartoon "OKEY" - and this one NOT?

I said I didn't like either. I wouldn't say either is 'okay'.
What I do say is that the Danish one makes a statement
that is comprehensible. It is possible. It is at least something
that can be discussed with some intelligence. It express' the
an opinion that was formed based on evidence. The cartoon
of Anne Frank and Hitler wasn't based on any evidence or on
any credible opinion .. it was just mud ... and the 'funny' thing
(or sad thing) is that it was mud flung once more at the Jews
who had nothing to do with the Danish cartoon.


If now Jewish EXTREMISTS (and there are
alot of them in Isreal) will go and Burn down a Mosque
- these Cartoonists are to blame, right?


1 - I highly doubt the Jews will go and call for genocide of
muslims based upon this cartoon. Why don't we all hold
our breathe and wait for it? It won't happen.

2 - No. If anyone burns down Mosques and tries to blame
it on cartoons then they are wrong. The only ones to blame
would be those burning down the Mosque. It wouldn't be
the fault of the ignorant cartoon ... it would be the fault of
the person and their reaction.

[edit on 2/6/2006 by FlyersFan]






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