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What kind of evidence will be good enough for you to believe officials?




Topic started on 2-2-2006 @ 05:16 AM by zer69


Hey,

OK so we're eventually going to see the "new" video from pentagon (besides the 5FPS crap) as mentioned in this AgentSmith's thread

I am assuming that we will clearly see an airliner hitting the pentagon on this video so few questions come to my mind they're mainly for "inside job" believers, but I would love to read from others too:


  1. Will this be enough for you to believe that the 14-20 cave-dwellers did the job? If no, what actual evidence will be enough for ya? Like on-board video from one of the flight where you can see the Arab terrorists?
  2. Do you think that with current Audio-Video (AV) technology they're able to fake it so the AV pros aren't going to realize that it's faked? Hope that we have some AV insiders here.
  3. What other evidence will be a proof for you that there is no 9/11 conspiracy, so you can move on?


My opinion is that when I would see a clear video, which properly shows an airliner hitting the pentagon, it'll fairly move my mind in favor to 9/11 no conspiracy side. Also as far as I know they're not able to fake the video properly with current technology.

I believe that there is a lot of people who just blindly believe that the 9/11 was a conspiracy because it must've been. I see the same behaving from 9/11 conformists too, I understand it's more comfortable and simpler to think that the Arab terrorists did it and also "paid" for it (this is important) and we're kickin' their butts in Afghanistan and Iraq so the world will be a better place and US Gov is telling us the truth.

Thanks.

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reply posted on 2-2-2006 @ 05:29 AM by IComeWithASword


If no one else has any objection to living in MY WORLD, be so kind as to remove your collection of AS's from my presence.

There is a limit to my patience.



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reply posted on 2-2-2006 @ 05:51 AM by zer69


Originally posted by IComeWithASword
If no one else has any objection to living in MY WORLD, be so kind as to remove your collection of AS's from my presence.

There is a limit to my patience.


Excuse me, but what are you referring to? Maybe wrong thread?



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reply posted on 2-2-2006 @ 06:45 AM by Musclor


Hello

If the video ever happen to show a 757, well it will change............... absolutely NOTHING. Because the most important questions remains. Who was controlling it ? And why wasn't it intercepted ? (we know why in fact).

To me, 9/11 was an inside job, but was also planned with the complicity of Israel, and maybe other countries.



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reply posted on 2-2-2006 @ 07:14 AM by KhieuSamphan


Originally posted by zer69
What kind of evidence will be good enough for you to believe officials?

The die has been cast...No amount of evidence presented by, ahem, 'officials', will dissuade me from my gut feeling that the events presented by various Government agencies as fact are actually nothing but a catalogue of lies designed to fool the general population, for an, as yet, unacknowledged purpose.



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reply posted on 3-2-2006 @ 06:14 AM by IComeWithASword


Someone has a temper. You are just burying yourself deeper while sending people you hate to a place you will never see.

Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick.

Keep trying and dying.



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reply posted on 3-2-2006 @ 06:16 AM by IComeWithASword


Marching into oblivion. The march of dodo birds continue.



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reply posted on 3-2-2006 @ 07:24 AM by zer69


@Musclor, KhieuSamphan - Thanks for response.

@IComeWithASword - I don't know what on earth are you talking about , I sent you an u2u, please stay on topic here.



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reply posted on 3-2-2006 @ 11:36 AM by truthseeka


Originally posted by zer69
Hey,

OK so we're eventually going to see the "new" video from pentagon (besides the 5FPS crap) as mentioned in this AgentSmith's thread

I am assuming that we will clearly see an airliner hitting the pentagon on this video so few questions come to my mind they're mainly for "inside job" believers, but I would love to read from others too:


  1. Will this be enough for you to believe that the 14-20 cave-dwellers did the job? If no, what actual evidence will be enough for ya? Like on-board video from one of the flight where you can see the Arab terrorists?
  2. Do you think that with current Audio-Video (AV) technology they're able to fake it so the AV pros aren't going to realize that it's faked? Hope that we have some AV insiders here.
  3. What other evidence will be a proof for you that there is no 9/11 conspiracy, so you can move on?


My opinion is that when I would see a clear video, which properly shows an airliner hitting the pentagon, it'll fairly move my mind in favor to 9/11 no conspiracy side. Also as far as I know they're not able to fake the video properly with current technology.

I believe that there is a lot of people who just blindly believe that the 9/11 was a conspiracy because it must've been. I see the same behaving from 9/11 conformists too, I understand it's more comfortable and simpler to think that the Arab terrorists did it and also "paid" for it (this is important) and we're kickin' their butts in Afghanistan and Iraq so the world will be a better place and US Gov is telling us the truth.

Thanks.

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Well, let's see...

Have them explain how THREE steel buildings collapse from fire, which has never before or since happened in history.

Have them explain how, despite no plane impact, bldg 7 fell EXACTLY the same way as the twins did...no, have them explain how bldg 7 fell, because THEY NEVER DID!

Have them explain why govt officials were warned not to fly to New York the day before.

Have them explain the CONCURRENT war games that took place that day.

Have them explain why NORAD stood down.

Have them explain why bin Laden is CIA and why the "hijackers" were trained in the US.

Have them explain why the LIED about prior knowledge.

Have them explain the "coincidence" on how the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were planned BEFORE 9/11, not to mention the Patriot Act.

Have them explain why Dick Cheney, in the PNAC documents, wrote that Saddam wasn't a threat and that they needed a helpful, Pearl Harbor-type event to get the people behind their plans.

Have them explain why the bin Laden family inside the US was flown out on the country on 9/11, when NO ONE ELSE WAS ABLE TO FLY!

There's a short list for you, but the reasons are a mile long.




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reply posted on 4-2-2006 @ 06:07 AM by IComeWithASword


If you are expecting a response, there will be none. No need for a response when your own action determines your fate. Perfect how that works out like that.

If I were you, I would use the remaining time that you do have, to use it towards digging yourself out. It may seem daunting, but then again, you have plenty of time to burn......



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reply posted on 4-2-2006 @ 06:16 AM by IComeWithASword


If you drop a million people of the same persuasion into the same pit, what do you think will be the outcome? That is not a place that I would want to be placed in.

You can buy all the souls in the world, the only souls that you can't buy is your own. Ironic how it works out that way.



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reply posted on 4-2-2006 @ 06:16 AM by warthog911


To the thread starter just download martial law:911 rise to police state
Here is the link
www.netctr.com\media.html
it's a 3 part movie weighing 250mb.i never believed that 9\11 was an insode job until i watched the documentary.



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reply posted on 4-2-2006 @ 10:05 AM by shanti23


If there was nothing to hide, this video would be out already.

I doubt the Pentagon is short on surveillance video cameras, there should be many tapes from many different angles of flight 77 crashing into the wall of the Pentagon.
I can't see an airplane in the pictures taken immediately after the crash, so if this tape does exist, it will be interesting to see how the entire fuselage, wings, engines and tailpiece managed to squeeze through that window.



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reply posted on 4-2-2006 @ 02:43 PM by IComeWithASword


This ferry is full! Next. Malas 89. The AS's of evil are at it again.

It's good to be the King!! Not one dull moment.



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reply posted on 5-2-2006 @ 12:24 AM by LetKnowledgeDrop


Nothing these so-called ''officials'' will say will make me believe men in a cave, out in the mountains of Afghanistan, carried out 9/11..Thats ridiculous

Thats wouldnt explain Norad standing down for the first and only time in their history.

There is a VERY long list of unanswered questions....some of them already posted on this thread.

Its just common sense. Who has the motive?Who stands to gain from 9/11? Who benefits? Who gets more funding and power? Not men in a cave!



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reply posted on 5-2-2006 @ 03:56 AM by IComeWithASword


I can't seem to convince these guys that god exist. They want to turn everything into gay porn. How ironic.

Anyone else want to pick up the hammer!! Be my guest. Have fun!



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reply posted on 5-2-2006 @ 10:57 PM by bsbray11


I would believe "officials" when they finally admit that WTC7 was demolished, and see how it goes from there.

To believe what they're saying right now regarding those issues, I would have to actually have a detailed and logical, plausible explanation as to how exactly the buildings fell as they did, explaning each and every apparent physics problem with the same detail and constant presence of logic and plausibility, and then I would have to be shown that the steel could indeed have been sufficiently heated to initiate all of that.



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reply posted on 6-2-2006 @ 01:04 AM by derdy


i don't base my belief that 9/11 was an inside job on what hit the pentagon.. there are too many other things that are less speculative... for example sibel edmonds story.... her story on her website...
she has said, "To this day the American public do not know the true culprits behind 9/11." She was gagged by Ashcroft and after telling the Senate Judicuary Committee her knowledge, they were all gagged! Now come on, what more proof do you need? Her story alone can carry the entire movement if she wasn't gagged!



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