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Battle Plans: Iran War Inevitable

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posted on Feb, 1 2006 @ 04:01 PM
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Battle Plans for Iran

Step by step, Iran is being set up for war. What difference does the provocation make? The determination to consolidate the oil reserves in the Caspian Basin was made more than a decade ago and is clearly articulated in the policy papers produced by the Project for the New American Century (PNAC) The Bush administration is one small province away from realizing the its dream of controlling the world’s most valued resource. They won’t let that opportunity pass them by.

We're in for another war.


I have yet to see much in regards to why the US will not bomb and/or invade Iran. Most threads are about the justifications, but the US administration doesn't need justifications other than their own to wage war. Is the system morally bankrupt and ethically repulsive? Perhaps, but conquest and expansion is an age old practice, so what has really changed to say this time it will be different?

Project for the New American Century



It is believed China and Russia have negotiated suitable terms on division of the oil revenues, so as Shakespeare once wrote, "Beware the Ides of March..."

Big powers close ranks as Iran stand-off continues




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posted on Feb, 1 2006 @ 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by Regenmacher





Where the heck you get the picture from? New Babylon?
You actually believe that the U.S. will colonize this region in the ME?



posted on Feb, 1 2006 @ 04:15 PM
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Your under the assumption their will be people of culture to colonize. Who says there will be?

Whether they do or not is up for speculation, but they will try and with nuclear weapons if necessary.

Pundits and jugheads didn't think the US would invade Iraq and storm into Baghdad in 30 days either.





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posted on Feb, 1 2006 @ 04:16 PM
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Some peoples minds just do not function in reality. New Babylon, sigh, what a joke. There is no way the USA could conquer that whole area, let alone be tolerated in doing so by the countries of the world.

- Attero



posted on Feb, 1 2006 @ 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by Regenmacher
Your under the assumption their will be people of culture to colonize. Who says there will be?

Whether they do or not is up for speculation, but they will try and with nuclear weapons if necessary.

Pundits and jugheads didn't think the US would invade Iraq and storm into Baghdad in 30 days either.





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Again, this isnt a US operation and yet you ignore that fact. You also ignore the fact that Bush has already said that he wants sanctions. You dont have a leg to stand on unless you leave out many crucial facts about the sittuation.



posted on Feb, 1 2006 @ 04:28 PM
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New Babylon, USA? Maybe if the "USA" stands for "United States of Asia" and was a separate country and not part of the American Federal Empire it just might work.

As for the rest of it and in reality, please keep in mind the number of radical muslim dis-information specialists currently posting here. They are frantically trying to avert a war (until they are ready to start one themselves) by appealing to the pacifists and appeasement people.
If you've read the history of what the nazis did in the late 1930's before WWII, this will sound terribly familiar.


[edit on 2/1/2006 by centurion1211]



posted on Feb, 1 2006 @ 04:32 PM
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Do you think the US Government is stupid? They got their hands full in Iraq and Afghanistan right now, starting another war making this a war on 3 fronts would be suicide both politically and militarily. Iran knows how to strategize to hurt US troops baddly by watching whats happening in Iraq right now. US Forces wouldn't be able to go 100 meters into Iran before being blown to bits by an IED.

No this war is not Inevitable. People have been saying so since 2004 and yet it has not happened yet. At most the US will try to conduct targetted strikes at certain "facilities" in Iran maybe with the help of Isreal but will it turn into a full blown war? I doubt it very highly.

Oh yeah I was not one of those Iraq war deniers. Everyone sane knew what was coming.

Regen, are you an Apocophile or what. It seems you actually look foward to what you describe as Global War.

centurion1211, if we were pacifists we wouldn't even be in this situation in the first place. Why you ask? Well Gulf War wouldn't have happened and Bin Laden would not have had an excuse to attack the USA and the USA in turn wouldn't have had an excuse to invade Afghanistan and Iraq and we'd most likely be looking at an Iraqi empire in the Mid East right now forcing us to pay a premium on gas which would prompt our scientists to develop alternative etc etc.

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posted on Feb, 1 2006 @ 04:43 PM
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Originally posted by Dronetek
Again, this isnt a US operation and yet you ignore that fact. You also ignore the fact that Bush has already said that he wants sanctions. You dont have a leg to stand on unless you leave out many crucial facts about the sittuation.


I ignore no facts and you have introduced none. What a part of PNAC is not a US lead operation? What part of PNAC has any of the current world not been falling into? You must have forgotten Iraq was weakened by sanctions initially before invasion. You must have forgotton Saddam was backed by the US to invade Iran.

The Neocons don't give a damn about legs or people's ideas of reality, they make their own reality.


As for trusting Bush at his word, you got to be kidding....



posted on Feb, 1 2006 @ 05:09 PM
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Originally posted by sardion2000
At most the US will try to conduct targetted strikes at certain "facilities" in Iran maybe with the help of Isreal but will it turn into a full blown war? I doubt it very highly.

Your under the assumption targeted strikes will not provoke a full blown retaliation. I like to see some historical context where the US started a tactical bombing campaign that didn't lead to a larger war. Let's not forget the use of low yield nuclear weapons may come into play this time too.


Iran will immediately retaliate with a strike if any attack on its nuclear facilities occurs, Defense Minister Mostafa-Mohammad Najar said Wednesday as he visited a base of the Air Force in Bushehr.

IRNA news agency quoted him as saying a powerful strike of retaliation would follow any attempt to attack Iran’s peaceful nuclear sites
ITAR-TASS, Russia



Originally posted by sardion2000
Oh yeah I was not one of those Iraq war deniers. Everyone sane knew what was coming.

Considering you joined here in 16-4-2004, the remark cannot be verified.


Originally posted by sardion2000
Regen, are you an Apocophile or what. It seems you actually look foward to what you describe as Global War.


I'm a surfer as in "ride the wave or drown in the riptide". Denial doesn't change the course of the world. Denial doesn't change fighting for finite resources and mankind's unwavering greed for power. Just where do you think all the money is lining up in regards to taking out Iran?

Do I like this wave? No, but I'm not going to drown in it to spite it.

The majority of posters, news articles, flow of funds, regional powers and world leaders are opting for a war. You can pretend, but I can't afford to.





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posted on Feb, 1 2006 @ 06:14 PM
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Originally posted by Regenmacher


You must have forgotten Iraq was weakened by sanctions initially before invasion. You must have forgotton Saddam was backed by the US to invade Iran.



i remember talking to some friends about this a while back and if you think about it, its the best way to go. completely disarm and bankrupt your enemy before invading. Iraq and saddam hardly had the means to chase a camel out of his backyard and this is exactly the kind of enemy the US wants to create.This whole sactions business is just part of the big chess game that will eventually end up in another iraq style war.. But Iran will be better prepared because it sat back and watched what happened and what works in iraq.



posted on Feb, 1 2006 @ 11:40 PM
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Hmm... I’m not liking the name, New Babylon just doesn't sound cool


Seriously, even if, and that’s a big If, we wanted to invade Iran we couldn't occupy Iran without considerable consequences on our part. Having said that, we sure can bomb them to bits, so keep an eye out for that.


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posted on Feb, 2 2006 @ 06:53 PM
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So by March of this year we are going to invade Iran so as to consolidate all the oil under the aegis of New Babylon...rrriiiight. Sounds like a good movie plotline.

As good as our military is, and its very good. A third war is not in the cards at the moment. It would be political suicide for the party in power, what with midterm elections coming up, not to mention a presidential election
in 2008 (run condi, run...run, condi, run... sorry couldn't help myself). An invasion of Iran at this time would be silly.

I make no great claim to any sort of military genius, but fighting on three fronts strikes me as counter-productive.



posted on Feb, 4 2006 @ 07:51 AM
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This article goes into more depth in regards to taking over the Middle East and Central Asia.


The war on Iran is a market driven war. It's profit for the military contractors, and the military-industrial complex. It's profit for the oil companies because the ultimate objective is to confiscate Iran's oil reserves. It's to establish control over that broader area, which is the Central Asia, Middle East area, which encompasses 70% of (world) oil and gas reserves, and ultimately it is also intended to confront other major economic powers in the world, namely Russia and China, both of which have a sizeable interest in that region, and I should say also the Europeans, the European Union.

The purpose of this military operation is not to disable the nuclear facilities; the purpose is to ultimately destroy a country resulting in significant civilian casualties, which then opens the door for the conquest of Iran, its oil facilities and so on.

globalresearch


Flashback 2003: America's War for Global Domination


Nuclear War against Iran -January 3, 2006

The launching of an outright war using nuclear warheads against Iran is now in the final planning stages.


It is also believed Iran had obtained nuclear weapons from Kazakhstan in 1991. Israel will most likely be hit by chemical and/or bio weapons, if Iran is attacked. Is Israel ready to except massive casualities? Is The world ready to except oil supply chaos?

Country Overviews: Iran: Nuclear Import/Export

Today, Iran resumes full- scale enrichment of uranium.


Nuclear watchdog reports Iran to U.N
In response, Iran's chief negotiator to the IAEA said Iran would resume its full nuclear-related activities, without restriction, and will no longer allow snap inspections of its nuclear facilities.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.




Where are the carriers?
CVN-76 Ronald Reagan: 28Jan-31Jan2006, Philippine Sea
CV-67 John F. Kennedy: 27Jan2006, West Atlantic
CVN-68 Nimitz: 31Jan2006, East Pacific
CVN-71 Theodore Roosevelt: 26Dec2005-31Jan2006, Persian Gulf
CVN-73 George Washington: 31Jan2006, West Atalantic
CVN-74 John C. Stennis: 25Jan-27Jan2006, EastPac


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posted on Feb, 4 2006 @ 08:26 AM
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Originally posted by Regenmacher
Whether they do or not is up for speculation, but they will try and with nuclear weapons if necessary.



I don't think nuclear bombs are the weapon of choice for the US in this century - I think it's biological warfare - an attack which destroys from the inside, an invisible enemy. You can infiltrate a nuke, but trying to quarantine an entire nation from a deadly virus is another story altogether...

P.S. That map of expansion of the American Empire is great!
Keep the good stuff coming Regenmacher!!



posted on Feb, 4 2006 @ 09:37 AM
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The battle plans are at CENTCOM and they have been in place for a while. Look at a map and realize that Iran has backed itself into a corner. I have never once heard anyone in the current administration talk about destroying Iran or occupation. All world leaders are concerned of the fact that they have viable WMD's, and they will use them.

We called Saddams bluff, and he paid dearly for it. There were no WMD's in iraq, because it was bad intel from Iraq stating they did so he could have the biggest balls in the Middle East.Once the sanctions are imposed after this latest referral which is imminent, it will be interesting to see what happens.



posted on Feb, 5 2006 @ 08:34 AM
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One small question Regenmacher, how can we trust that all the information you are spreading is infact true? Or how can we trust that you are not a government disinformation tool?
Because your part of the free media?



posted on Feb, 5 2006 @ 09:39 AM
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The quickest way to end terrorism is to make it an unprofittable business.

First point being to stop directing my tax dollars to the Armed Forces.




Oh, but wait... I forgot you are not interested in stopping terrorists because you are "addicted to oil"



posted on Feb, 5 2006 @ 11:46 AM
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Originally posted by esdad71
We called Saddams bluff, and he paid dearly for it. There were no WMD's in iraq, because it was bad intel from Iraq stating they did so he could have the biggest balls in the Middle East.Once the sanctions are imposed after this latest referral which is imminent, it will be interesting to see what happens.

Iraq did not claim to have WMDs, they denied it ... in 1994 UNSCOM destroyed Iraq's chemical weapons and in 1996 the Al-Hakam biological weapons factory was demolished under UNSCOM supervision.

Israel has the biggest balls in the Middle East.
According to nuclear weapons experts they've got the sixth largest nuclear arsenal in the world, and all of their nuclear weapons are undeclared and illegal.
They even deceived the weapons inspectors that were inspecting the Dimona nuclear facility by brickwalling the entrances to the five floors below the first floor, where the weapons-grade plutonium was manufactured.



posted on Feb, 5 2006 @ 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by devilwasp
One small question Regenmacher, how can we trust that all the information you are spreading is infact true? Or how can we trust that you are not a government disinformation tool? Because your part of the free media?


Believe nothing and trust no one. It is up to you to do extreme due dilligence in verifying or finding plausibility in any data or info. So read the links, watch the markets, note the parallels of the past, and decide for yourself.

War with Iran chatter is increasing and the majority of commodity prices are still rising. Ask yourself where is this all is progressing too?

Frist hints at miltary action today:


Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist said Saturday night that the United States must be prepared to take military action against Iran if nonviolent means don't deter the country from building nuclear weapons.

"We cannot allow Iran to become a nuclear nation," Frist told reporters at the Missouri GOP's annual Lincoln Days conference. "We need to use diplomatic sanctions. If that doesn't work, economic sanctions, and if that doesn't work, the potential for military use has to be on the table." link


Bush has hinted at it in the past:


"All options are on the table," said Mr Bush, when asked about the possible use of force during an interview for Israeli TV.

"The use of force is the last option for any president. You know we have used force in the recent past to secure our country," he said. BBC





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posted on Feb, 5 2006 @ 11:59 AM
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does it matter?
we all know its a matter of time untill the 3rd WW starts.
and the middle east is going to be the flashpoint.

and just think it was all prophesised thousands of yrs bfore america was even discovered. Duh . LOL.



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