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Madnessinmysoul
africa has been exploited, and now the nations that exploited them have to pay some sort of damages or at the very least assist them in fixing the problems.
Originally posted by IAF101
Because they dont have any marketable skills.
As you say when there is a will there is a way. If not the big companies then some other companies will sell arms. Its not the people who sell who are at fault, it is the people who buy. If they stop buying nobody will sell to them.
Its that simple, blaming the West is not the excuse for all your problems.
Typical Socialist nonsense.
Like they did all the thousands of years before their were electric pumps and dams and pipelines for water. And again, when there is a will there is a way!
Also the people of Saudi Arabia farm, they could do it that way.
Also why should the West help? Why cant the East help or the North or the South ? Why they West? And what in it for the West? Why should the West be the purse of the world that every is cut by every theif so that they can procrastinate the inevitable ??
Are you saying that for thousands of years they just lived without Fresh Water and now htey realise that there is no Fresh Water ? How did they live before for millenia, I suggest they utilize the same resource for fresh water.
The West is not GOD. We cant bring water down from the heavens. They must do with what they have. IF they are incapable of doing so then no one is responible for their fate.
Africa cant give anything.
And Why exactly should the West give ??? Is there some contract that Western nations have signed that says that all the worlds misery is the Wests burden ?
Profit ? Where is that ?
Just because a company sell something doesnt mean it is "abusing" the seller. If the selller feels 'abused' they need not buy. No one is forcing them to buy anything. They are independent, they should be able to take care of themselves. After all isnt the popular perception that the West is too interventionist. Well here is some isolationism .
Maybe if you had been more balanced and said howmuch Slovenia contributed to the Africa other than the 300 million it spends on buying weapons and financing foreign trips for its soldiers. They probably Africa might have been batter off.
You have presented the facts and blamed the West as if it is the Wests duty to give aid, which is not so. What the West is doing is out of kindness not compulsion dont forget that.
Here's another saying; Dont count the teeth of a gift horse.
Originally posted by SouljahNo - People starve because they do not have enough FOOD. People are hungry not because of lack of Availability of food, or over-population, but because they are too poor to afford the food.
One billion people live on less than a dollar a day, the official measure of poverty - yet some 1.2 billion suffer from obesity. What does that tell you Ace? Is there Something Wrong in the World Today, or am I just Imagining things?
The impact of population growth on food supplies
More than 99 per cent of the world's food supply comes from the land, while less than 1 per cent is from oceans and other aquatic habitats (Pimentel et al., 1994). The continued production of an adequate food supply is directly dependent on ample fertile land, fresh water, energy, plus the maintenance of biodiversity. As the human population grows, the requirements for these resources also grow. Even if these resources are never depleted, on a per capita basis they will decline significantly because they must be divided among more people.
Originally posted by An Entity
The 10+ day riots in France was an example of Africans taking up their cause,
--snip--
I can't get angry enough. Belive me, I'm an upper middle class Jamaican living in England and when I get the chance I'm leaving this country. My kids WILL NOT be brainwashed by this system.
Originally posted by AceOfBase
BTW, people in other countries aren't hungry because the people in the West eat a lot of food. That food eaten in Western countries is primarily grown/raised in the same countries that consume it.
You can look at the climate of Africa and say that's why they're hungry but Australia has a similar climate to many African nations and they far outproduce Africa in agricultural production. Food Production Per Capita
Originally posted by Mr Shush
"Why are there so Many Conflicts in Africa?
Why are there so Many Dead every Year?
Why do People Starve every Year?
Why do they Die of completly Curable Diseases?
Why is this Human Tragedy in Africa SO Ignored?
Why don't the People Talk about it?"
the answer is so simple and obvious, i really cant believe this is even a serious question. maybe some people are just BLIND to the facts of life
Originally posted by AceOfBase
Originally posted by An Entity
The 10+ day riots in France was an example of Africans taking up their cause,
--snip--
I can't get angry enough. Belive me, I'm an upper middle class Jamaican living in England and when I get the chance I'm leaving this country. My kids WILL NOT be brainwashed by this system.
The people rioting in France were primarily North African muslims. The very same people who enslaved and exploited Africa for centuries before the Europeans showed up.
About your second comment, if you care so much about turning things around in Jamaica then why the heck are you living in England and what's stopping you from going back to Jamaica?
[edit on 1-2-2006 by AceOfBase]
Originally posted by Souljah
Oh yeah - they sure can not Market their own Death and Suffering alot. There are no Mass Media there to Transmit the Events LIVE! direct to your Home, are there?
So you say it is NOT the fault of the Dealer, to sell Heroin to the 14-Year old Girl, and keeps her addicted? The west has Generated an Enormous Third World with the Rapid Spread of Corporate Capitalism. That's why half of the food that US grow is thrown away, while the majority of the people of this world starve to death? Justice?
Well if you did not Notice, the CLIMATE has changed ALOT since the Thousands years ago, and Sahara desert is SPREADING fast, the Temperatures have increased and the Water season is now shorter and more Dry then before.
Why is the WEST helping so much the People of Middle East? Why? Why is US giving ISREAL so much help - it is not like they NEED IT,
but the US still provides them MORE help then all African Countries combined. FAIR?
Because the GREEDY Corporate world does not care for the Effects that they leave on the Enviroment, their only Concern is PROFIT, even if it means cutting down Rainforrest, Increasing the Global Warming or selling Guns in Africa.
The West has ENORMOUS Resources, and above all, ENORMOUS ammount of Wealth, which they keep for themselves.
EXCATLY! Now you have shown a Typical Answer, with which you have said much more then just 4 words.
Well the WEST has created this Mess - why doesn't it FIX it NOW? It is the Legacy of EUROPEAN Colonialism - not the Legacy of CHINESE Colonialism if I am not mistaken. And the saddest part is, that this Colonialms is still going on.
But the PEOPLE of Africa do not want guns - they want FOOD and WATER and JOBS and FREEDOM and a change to LIVE!
West is actually doing NOT MUCH. They are just Covering up a real FUBAR of a situation with a small ammount of their BIG BUDGETS,
AllAfrica.com: For Starving Children of Kenya, 42 Tons of Dog Food...
The Nation (Nairobi)
January 31, 2006
The founder of a New Zealand company wants to come to the aid of starving children in Kenya ... by sending them 42 tons of dog food. The food, in a powder to be mixed with water, could feed 160 orphans for two months, says the founder of the dog food firm, Ms Christine Drummond. The powdered meal was "a high powered food full of nutrients," and "it tastes yummy" Ms Drummond said. In fact she likes it so much she even sprinkles some on her porridge every morning as a pick-me-up, she said.
Originally Ms Drummond said she had planned to send Mighty Mix dog biscuits but when she realised there were so many hungry children she thought it better to send packets of the raw ingredients instead.
The New Zealand media stated that drought, crop failures and massive food shortages in parts of Kenya had left millions of people without access to adequate food.
Originally posted by Souljah
Oh wait - the GOOD WHITE PEOPLE have came to yet ANOTHER Continent, SLAUGHTERED the Native Population and Taken it for themselves! The Majority of the People of Australia are WHITE - which were not he Native People before the Arrival of the White Man. I am sure that the WHITE MAN will take care of Himself and His Piece of Land.
Originally posted by An Entity
^^Yeah right. What about the race riots last year? Still beating up anyone that isn't pale and sickly are we?
Originally posted by An Entity
You're talking to someone whos been shot at... someone whos family has come from NOTHING to England, fighting your racist scum all the way.. in school, on the street. Fighting to simply live and survive in your braindead society.
IMAO!
What ghetto are you from? My faimily is from SPANISH TOWN look it up, then tell me why you think my parents never listened to me when I used to beg them to go back home? My Grandmother was stabbed to death in her bed... my other grandparents would gladly come on here and tell you story after story about people who have died on the streets/in shoot outs just trying to survive in Jamaica.
Originally posted by IAF101
They should plant more trees then, build up rainforest's and all that jazz to have the pristine environment that they want. The climate change is inevitable and they just have to cope with it. They are human after all, they can adapt to changes in climate like the people in the middle east did.
Originally posted by AceOfBase
Originally posted by An Entity
You're talking to someone whos been shot at... someone whos family has come from NOTHING to England, fighting your racist scum all the way.. in school, on the street. Fighting to simply live and survive in your braindead society.
IMAO!
What ghetto are you from? My faimily is from SPANISH TOWN look it up, then tell me why you think my parents never listened to me when I used to beg them to go back home? My Grandmother was stabbed to death in her bed... my other grandparents would gladly come on here and tell you story after story about people who have died on the streets/in shoot outs just trying to survive in Jamaica.
I really don't care what you went through when you moved to England, nor do I care what you went through in Jamaica. You mention the violence in Jamaica but who is responsible for that violence?
Were you getting shot and stabbed by whites?
I doubt it.
The violence in Jamaica drives away people who would otherwise invest in that nation so it just continues to live in poverty. The areas Jamaicans move into, like Toronto Canada and probably England, also become violent and will eventually drive people away so those areas will become rife with poverty themselves.
When those areas of Britain become just as violent and poor as the places you moved from who will you blame? You'll probably blame the government just as the French did but that's not where the problem lies.
This problem with violence (and often corruption) keeping away investors is also part of what's happening in Africa. People don't want to invest in places that aren't safe and they don't want to move there either.
[edit on 1-2-2006 by AceOfBase]