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NEWS: Iran Prepares for US Airstrikes

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posted on Feb, 1 2006 @ 10:12 AM
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As the UN Security Council gets closer to meeting on the Iranian nuke program, Iran has begun placing anti-aircraft defenses (courtesy of Russia) around it's nuke sites.
 



Iran urgently installing anti-aircraft defenses for its nuke facilities
Iran believes it has 120 days to protect its facilities from either an Israeli or U.S. air strike. As a result, Teheran has ordered a full-scale accelerated program to place air defense assets around as many as 50 nuclear facilities.

Iranian supreme leader Ali Khamenei formally gave such an order in July 2005. But the Iranians moved too slowly for Khamenei's taste. Teheran had sealed an agreement with Russia for its TOR-M1 short-range anti-aircraft system to defend nuclear facilities.

That led to a tense session in which Khamenei ordered the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps to acquire the TOR and other air defense assets immediately. Teheran warned Russia that the systems had better arrive over the next few weeks or the deal was off. As a result, Russian equipment and technicians began streaming into Teheran to install the TOR-M1 and train IRGC to operate the systems.




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The Iranian's are shoring up their defenses against possible airstrikes from the US, UN or Israel and they seem to think it may happen by spring, hence the 120 day goal of getting the air defenses in place.

But will the US strike? Will the US invade? I personally think airstrikes are a possibility with UN approval, but invasion is out of the question, the US military is spread too thin to do anything more than conduct special ops on the ground in Iran.
Remember, the rest of the US military has to stand as a deterent to China/Taiwan and North and South Korea, as well as continue to conduct operations in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Related AboveTopSecret.com Discussion Threads:
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Edit: Corrected Links

[edit on 2/1/2006 by bios]




posted on Feb, 1 2006 @ 11:35 AM
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Well, i know they're insane, but are they stupid?

I cant think of any nation being threatened and not taking precautions.



posted on Feb, 1 2006 @ 12:23 PM
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Actually they have the right to protect themselves from an attack on their borders after all Iran is a Sovereign country with elected officials.

Now if I am not misunderstood they were to go Euro after April so I guess the US has to hurry up and stop them very soon.

So I guess that Iran is taking that in consideration for the time frame of preparations.



posted on Feb, 1 2006 @ 12:54 PM
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If and when they announce to the IAEA that they are going to start enriching uranium, then they better have their air defenses in place. I think this move is showing their cards....foreshadowing.

Conplan 8022 seems to be getting closer to reality. I thought the Russian enrichment deal might have went through to defuse the situation, but alas it's on to war we march.

Nuke'm till they glow, may be the legacy of this generation...sadly.


edit: thanks for fixing the links

[edit on 1-2-2006 by Regenmacher]



posted on Feb, 1 2006 @ 01:22 PM
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Marge6043 Actually they have the right to protect themselves from an attack on their borders after all Iran is a Sovereign country with elected officials.

Now if I am not misunderstood they were to go Euro after April so I guess the US has to hurry up and stop them very soon.

So I guess that Iran is taking that in consideration for the time frame of preparations.


I recall having read somewhere that Iraq had also been in the process of switching to the Euro just before the US occupation.



posted on Feb, 1 2006 @ 01:29 PM
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Yes, Saddam was going to do that, things like this are by passed by the media and never really made into a big deal because after all we didn't invade Iraq for the oil, Remember?


Even when Iran doesn't sell oil to the US they do hold the change to open their markets to oil companies that are not from the US that alone will be a problem for the US economy and what "Going Euro" will do also.

Iran and Iraq holds what is probable the last best oil reservoirs in the world and they have to be in the Right hands.

In the US oil barons hands.



posted on Feb, 1 2006 @ 10:30 PM
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It will definitely be interesting to see how this plays out. I agree with the idea that this is foreshadowing to something much bigger.

I also agree that our forces are spread too thin. The more this administration goes into military action, the more forces they're going to need. Where are they going to get these guys to shot the baddies?



posted on Feb, 2 2006 @ 02:32 AM
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Marg has stated the real reason for this, the switching of oil pricing from dollars to euros. China has 800 billion dollars of US debt and once it starts to purchase oil from its biggest supplier (Iran) in Euros then those dollars will be offloaded. The US economy would collapse.

The only reason the US has survived with its huge debt is because the dollar is used as a worldwide currency. Once oil starts to be traded in Euros then the demand for dollars falls, the exchange rate plummets and the US enters an exceedingly deep depression.

An alternate solution to invading Iran would be to "invent" a new source of energy and sell it to the world so it is no longer oil dependant. I put "invent" in quotes since I believe the invention has already been made and the US administration can longer afford to sit on it. Now you know why he said what he did in his State of the Union address. The timescale is necessary to allow time for all oil based products (e.g. cars) to be replaced with a electric/hybrid varieties.

The problem is I think they have mistimed this and there's no way of switching the world from oil dependancy before the dollar collapses.........



posted on Feb, 2 2006 @ 03:05 AM
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Originally posted by dgtempe
Well, i know they're insane, but are they stupid?

I cant think of any nation being threatened and not taking precautions.


You mean like Israel being threatened of being wiped off the map? Or the mention of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards of having acquired 29 targets in the west, including the U.S. and waiting on the word of the iranian president to attack? i guess you are right, nations will make precautions when they are threatened.



posted on Feb, 2 2006 @ 03:16 AM
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everyone keeps talking about US airstrikes. "iran prepares for US airstrikes." could someone please show me where the US is threatening military action? or even where the US is taking the lead on the iranian issue? i know bush is everybody's favorite attack dog, but how about chirac? because last time i checked, france was taking the lead on iran.

and for those of you who dont really think iran is an issue:


cbsnews.com

Experiments with high explosives, possibly linked to future nuclear weapons tests, were carried out as recently as 2003 in Iran, sources tell CBS News.

International Atomic Energy Agency analysts said they suspect the experiments took place at a huge military complex south of Tehran. Inspectors were permitted only one visit, and saw only part of the site, reports CBS News correspondent Sheila MacVicar.

Despite the lack of access, Sean McCormack, a U.S. State Department spokesman, said, "we are seeing more and more indications" that Iran's enrichment activities have the intended purpose of building a nuclear weapon.

Iran insists its nuclear program is designed for electricity generation. But on Tuesday, the IAEA said that Iran had turned over to it documents and drawings it obtained on the black market that could serve no other purpose than production of an atomic warhead.



posted on Feb, 2 2006 @ 03:32 AM
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snafu, not only that but the U.N. has made the following statement.



In the brief report obtained Tuesday, however, the agency said bluntly that the 15 pages of text and drawings showing how to cast fissile uranium into metal were "related to the fabrication of nuclear weapon components."

Asked about the finding, a senior diplomat close to the IAEA declined to elaborate but emphasized that the documents had no other use. He demanded anonymity in exchange for discussing confidential information.

The report said the documents were under agency seal, meaning that IAEA experts should be able to re-examine them, but "Iran has declined a request to provide the agency with a copy."

The documents in question were given to Iran by members of the nuclear black market network, the IAEA said. Iran has claimed it did not ask for the documents but received them anyway as part of other black market purchases.


Excerpted from.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

But you know what? some people are going to start claiming the U.S. is behind this, it was all planted by the U.S. yiddi, yiddi yadda......despite the fact that it has been the U.N. who submitted this report, and despite the fact that European nations want to refer Iran because of it's nuclear program.



posted on Feb, 2 2006 @ 03:51 AM
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I can see one more tactical step before dropping the bombs - an oil blockade. Iran's oil does China no good if the tankers can't get out of the harbor.

Come to think of it, I wonder why/how those missile defense systems made it all the way from Russia to Iran without having an "accident" or two. Maybe it's just that the US has confidence that they'll be easy enough to neutralize via air strikes.



posted on Feb, 2 2006 @ 04:17 AM
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Liar's Poker

I think it's important to remember that the intelligence available to all parties involved is much more reliable and detailed than what makes it into the world press.

So while publicly the various nations can play games about whether Iran is pursuing nuclear weapons, privately there is probably little doubt either way.

And of course, nations rarely go to war over one single issue. Rather, the issue serves as a pretext for doing what the nations would have done anyway.

Remember the Maine.



posted on Feb, 2 2006 @ 05:11 AM
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Originally posted by Muaddib

Originally posted by dgtempe
Well, i know they're insane, but are they stupid?

I cant think of any nation being threatened and not taking precautions.


You mean like Israel being threatened of being wiped off the map? Or the mention of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards of having acquired 29 targets in the west, including the U.S. and waiting on the word of the iranian president to attack? i guess you are right, nations will make precautions when they are threatened.
I know in this case the Iranians are stirring the cauldron, they want a fight, I think every possible method such as sanctions should be exhausted before tougher measures are taken.
These people are nuts and would think nothing of blowing up anything in their path. They want Armaggedon.



posted on Feb, 2 2006 @ 05:27 AM
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Here's something NEW:



Iran Incapable of Building Nuclear Bomb

Iran is not capable of building its own nuclear weapons, the former head of a nuclear power plant and current regional leader in southern Russia said Wednesday.

“In reality, the U.S. is provoking Iran, accusing it of aiming, along with the implementation of its peaceful nuclear programs, to create its own nuclear weapons,” Governor of the Saratov Region Pavel Ipatov was quoted by RIA Novosti as saying.

Ipatov, who was head the Balakovo power plant for almost 20 years, said that currently, in view of the methods in place for controlling the proliferation of nuclear weapons,
“Iran is in no state to create a nuclear bomb secretly.”


Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

Yeah? What does that tell you then? That the so-called Security Council is Worried about Iranian CIVILAN Nuclear program? Is it only a Provocation, aimed at Iran, because of their Upcoming Petro-Euro Politics?

And, lets not forget an Older Article, that also proves my POINT:


Iran Is Judged 10 Years From Nuclear Bomb

U.S. Intelligence Review Contrasts With Administration Statements

A major U.S. intelligence review has projected that Iran is about a decade away from manufacturing the key ingredient for a nuclear weapon, roughly doubling the previous estimate of five years, according to government sources with firsthand knowledge of the new analysis.

So, if we remove the Paranoia, the FEAR that was installed by the Immense Mainstrea Media Propaganda Machine - there really is nothing left, just some Empty words, coming from the Administration that LIED to the World before for their GeoPolitics.

[edit on 2/2/06 by Souljah]



posted on Feb, 2 2006 @ 06:11 AM
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Originally posted by Souljah
Here's something NEW:



Iran Incapable of Building Nuclear Bomb

Iran is not capable of building its own nuclear weapons, the former head of a nuclear power plant and current regional leader in southern Russia said Wednesday.


Please visit the link provided for the complete story.



Iran Is Judged 10 Years From Nuclear Bomb

U.S. Intelligence Review Contrasts With Administration Statements


So, if we remove the Paranoia, the FEAR that was installed by the Immense Mainstrea Media Propaganda Machine - there really is nothing left, just some Empty words, coming from the Administration that LIED to the World before for their GeoPolitics.

Nothing NEW here at all - same old rhetoric, as far as I can see.

So we are to take the word of one of Iran's allies? No bias there, I'm sure.:shk:

Estimates of Iran's capability to finish with the bomb have ranged from 6 months to 13 years.

So if we remove all the lame attempts at defending Iran's quest to get the bomb, then all we're left with is the ranting of a lunatic Iranian president who threatens the world almost on a weekly basis.



posted on Feb, 2 2006 @ 06:14 AM
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I bet they have had AA guns and missiles around their nuke sites for ages.
Its interesting that the murdoch machine(sky news) has recently switched from the "diplomacy is being used on the Iran issue" line,to "is America about to attack Iran?"
They had a disscussion on this yesterday,and while most responders said things like "we gotta take out the nook threat",i sent in a response saying
"are you allowed to say the words "Iranian oil bourse" on sky news?I thought not"
And sure enough my comment did not appear,as i expected.

The sick bush regime continues its policy of death to those who have dark skin and different religious beliefs.



posted on Feb, 2 2006 @ 06:46 AM
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Well ya know Bush has already offered the way out, in yesterdays rally he said that we respected the right of Iran to have nuclear (misprounced of course, ain't he cute) power, just not nuclear weapons...wink wink. My guess is one of two things happened, the generals told him to back down, that we didn't have the forces to invade or China suggested that they might call in all their loans, which is, even though its never talked about, their BIG club they weild over us. I don't think an attack or invasion of Iran is even a remote possiblity by American (or even NATO) forces, the will just isn't there. Now Iseral is another story all together.



posted on Feb, 2 2006 @ 07:19 AM
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Originally posted by grover
Well ya know Bush has already offered the way out, in yesterdays rally he said that we respected the right of Iran to have nuclear (misprounced of course, ain't he cute) power, just not nuclear weapons...wink wink. My guess is one of two things happened, the generals told him to back down, that we didn't have the forces to invade or China suggested that they might call in all their loans, which is, even though its never talked about, their BIG club they weild over us. I don't think an attack or invasion of Iran is even a remote possiblity by American (or even NATO) forces, the will just isn't there. Now Iseral is another story all together.


i think you'll find that bush has been saying this all along. it isnt something new. hillary clinton is the one pushing for a harder US stance on iran. bush has never threatened military action against iran. i'm still trying to figure out where you guys are getting that from.



posted on Feb, 2 2006 @ 08:45 AM
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Where did we get it? Bushes previous actions that where. Trumped up accusations against Iraq for one. Remember weapons of mass deception? Sorry mass destraction, sorry again, mass destruction? Remember the nukler cloud threat and all those tonnes of bio/chem weapons? Hey he even looked under his desk for them. (a joke he said...It was in very bad taste if you ask me considering people are dying for his lies) If Bush said the sky was blue, I would look out the window and check for myself.




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